Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/12/2013 14:34, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2013-12-04, alex23 wrote: On 3/12/2013 5:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: You poor fools you, this is what happens when you give control of the tools you use to a (near) monopolist whose incentives are not your incentives. To paraphrase Franklin: thos

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-04 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-12-04, alex23 wrote: > On 3/12/2013 5:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> You poor fools you, this is what happens when you give control >> of the tools you use to a (near) monopolist whose incentives >> are not your incentives. > > To paraphrase Franklin: those who would give up control to >

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-03 Thread alex23
On 3/12/2013 5:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: You poor fools you, this is what happens when you give control of the tools you use to a (near) monopolist whose incentives are not your incentives. To paraphrase Franklin: those who would give up control to purchase convenience deserve neither. A l

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/12/2013 01:17, Michael Torrie wrote: And the list goes on. The love of money... -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > That said, I'm still pretty happy with Gmail (I use it mostly via > mutt/IMAP rather than the WebUI), and it sure beats the e-mail service > I paid for in the past [it's certainly _way_ better than the Outlook > server they run at work]. The

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:30:05 +1000, alex23 wrote: > On 3/12/2013 11:17 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> And Gmail is also becoming less useful to me. I don't want to use >> hangouts; xmpp and google talk worked just fine. But alas that's >> disappearing. > > I really hate Hangouts. If I wanted to u

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread alex23
On 3/12/2013 11:17 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: And Gmail is also becoming less useful to me. I don't want to use hangouts; xmpp and google talk worked just fine. But alas that's disappearing. I really hate Hangouts. If I wanted to use Skype I would be using Skype. I'm also still unable to unde

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-12-03, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 12/02/2013 06:03 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: >> I wish they'd never bought dejanews. > > I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a > lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into > apps that do less and do

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread rusi
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:39:02 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 12/02/2013 06:43 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > > And this is surprising, why? > > Well back when Google was a young hip company they billed themselves as > a bunch of nerds making stuff for nerds. But yes we should have seen > t

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/02/2013 06:43 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Michael Torrie wrote: > >> I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a >> lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into >> apps that do less and do it poorly, but in a slick way that app

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread rusi
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:13:03 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote: > Michael Torrie wrote: > > I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a > > lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into > > apps that do less and do it poorly, but in a slick w

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Michael Torrie wrote: > I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a > lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into > apps that do less and do it poorly, but in a slick way that appeals to > the unwashed masses. And add "social" t

Re: [OT] Managing Google Groups headaches

2013-12-02 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/02/2013 06:03 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: > I wish they'd never bought dejanews. I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into apps that do less and do it poorly, but in a slick way that appeals to th