Re: "use strict"

On 03/11/2019 01:00 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > the problem was that i was reviewing the code, since everything worked (no > errors but wrong output for sure) it took sometimes to find that var. it > was like someone telling me there is fish in that lake and i was throwing > my line tryin

Re: "use strict"

[[Replacing snipped context:]] > = Abdur-Rahmaan, no indent is me. On 12/03/2019 11:32, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > no i mean > > # *-* use strict *-* Ugh. > program > typovar = x # line y > > ... > > > Traceback: > on the fly var at

Re: "use strict"

On 12/03/2019 11:41, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: i also proposed # -*- explicit -*- To expand on my previous "ugh", I don't like hiding major run-time changes in cryptic comments. Behaviour like this should be very explicit in the way that a comment isn't, and shouldn't be so easily the

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ok, writing a pep-like document to explain all at once. sorry for eyes-hurting and brain-hunting. Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:18 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > excuses. > > have you used Js? well a bit like that in py. Yes, I have used JS, and in fact it's a critical part of my day job. But JS has a big difference in that you *declare* variables. As Rhodri says, asking for mandatory va

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excuses. have you used Js? well a bit like that in py. not necessarily unused as currently as it is, you can use the real one many times, the typo one many times. it's not an error but it's not what you expect. a linter basically parses the text, proposing to catch that without linter. the root

Re: "use strict"

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:02 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > by keeping a list /a record of those variables beforehand and knowing that no > new assignments in loops or such blocks of code. > Please, quote posts with proper context. Your posts are all context-free, which is great for a g

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by keeping a list /a record of those variables beforehand and knowing that no new assignments in loops or such blocks of code. Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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by some special symbols before the variable name like _that some code: _tht ^ Traceback: ... Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:58 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > by some special symbols before the variable name > > like > > _that > > some code: > _tht > I don't understand. How is Python to know that "_that" is correct but "_tht" is not? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: "use strict"

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:43 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > no just the var you want to track maybe > > _var > > or something like that, i want to solve that problem and this is just a > proposal > How do you specify which variables should be tracked? What defines this? Be completely cle

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i also proposed # -*- explicit -*- above Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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no just the var you want to track maybe _var or something like that, i want to solve that problem and this is just a proposal Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On 12/03/2019 11:32, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: no i mean # *-* use strict *-* Ugh. program typovar = x # line y ... Traceback: on the fly var at line y Yes, but how is the program supposed to know that typovar is a typo? Are you proposing mandatory declarations for

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no i mean # *-* use strict *-* program typovar = x # line y ... Traceback: on the fly var at line y Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On 11/03/2019 19:08, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: proposing a special python syntax for it, like if flag set, it halts execution. not relying on external tools like linters. Do you mean on the command line, like "python --lint-me-baby myprog.py"? I could live with that, though I'd hate to

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great post, i understand what you are saying. the smaller pieces was interesting. but poor me, i should have posted this to python-ideas Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On 12/03/19 8:00 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: about the editor part i think yes it'd underline unused variables or somewhat similar. is that the best we can hope for (coupled with type annotations)? the problem was that i was reviewing the code, since everything worked (no errors but

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proposing a special python syntax for it, like if flag set, it halts execution. not relying on external tools like linters. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "use strict"

On 11/03/2019 18:24, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: i mean a way to solve the problem of declaring variables beforehand and not changing in loop. like not using undeclated variables. but that's precisely what python has, you can't just declare a variable with no assignment. maybe some special

"use strict"

missed reply all -- Forwarded message - From: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 22:59 Subject: Re: "use strict" To: DL Neil about the editor part i think yes it'd underline unused variables or somewhat similar. the problem was that i was rev

Re: "use strict"

Abdur-Rahmaan, with greetings, On 12/03/19 6:45 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: Greetings, would it be a good idea to add a use strict in py like js? recently i was helping someone and that was one annoying part where a typo in a var name caused an unintended variable to slip in. maybe

Re: "use strict"

On 11/03/2019 17:45, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: Greetings, would it be a good idea to add a use strict in py like js? recently i was helping someone and that was one annoying part where a typo in a var name caused an unintended variable to slip in. maybe something like that # -*- strict

"use strict"

Greetings, would it be a good idea to add a use strict in py like js? recently i was helping someone and that was one annoying part where a typo in a var name caused an unintended variable to slip in. maybe something like that # -*- strict -*- # -*- explicit -*- could be used to prevent it