On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 15:56:16 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:
> My problem with venvs, especially if I have more than one, is that I
> eventually forget what they were for and what is different about each
> one. If there's only one and it's used for all non-system work, that's
> OK but beyond that and
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:12:19 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:
> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
> site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
> without --user. Pip will emit a message saying so. Well, that used to be
> true but nowadays P
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:43:43 +0200, Friedrich Romstedt wrote:
> Many people put emphasis on that you need to *activate* a virtualenv
> before using it, but no-one so far stressed the fact that you got Sphinx
> installed to ~/jonathan/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages *without
> using *--user.
T
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:20:13 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Making the active script executable introdues the risk that you'll
> accidentally execute it rather than sourcing it. If you do that, it
> will probably set up the environment in a new shell process which then
> immediately terminates.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:55:09 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:
> Pip doesn't know about the environment it runs in. It seems to me that
> you didn't active the venv before you installed using pip. So nothing
> would have gotten installed into the venv. So where is the venv that you
> set up? I usually p
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 19:10:47 -0400, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
> The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with
> make altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx*
> package into the virtual environment using the command *pip install
> sphinx* in the virtual en
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 21:51:51 - (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 10:05:32 -0300, Salvador Mirzo wrote:
>
>> It's much more pleasurable (to me) to read books off-screen.
>
> You can’t do searches, though.
For non-fiction a decent index does wonders. A good layout and ta
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:59:11 +1300, dn wrote:
> - on Coursera am sad to advise avoiding U.Mich courses - they tend to be
> re-worded Java (I think) content, don't follow PEP-008 and 'miss' Python
> idioms
The edx CS50 Python from Harvard is decent. It does start with the basics
but overall I enj
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 22:00:11 +0100, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I have done so ... to be really honest, it was when I couldn't remember
> how to create an iterator for a class I was writing, that I realized
> that I needed a refresher.
Most of my Python was related to Esri's ArcGIS version. Up unti
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:50:33 +0100, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I used to be fairly good at Python, but I haven't done any serious
> programming in the last 10 years or so. So I would like something that
> got me up-to-date with the latest features.
David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author do
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:05:53 -0600, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> Frankly, the mountain of resources is so vast that none of us can have
> experience of more than a small fraction, and effective learning is a
> factor not only of the quality of the teacher/book/training course, but
> how it meshes with y
On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:30:42 +0100, Chris Townley wrote:
> Not sure about America, but the bee's knees is still in common use in
> the UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee's_knees
That version? A local bakery makes a honey flavored pastry they call
'bee's knees' but using it in a conversation w
On 16 Oct 2024 08:20:10 GMT, Martin Schöön wrote:
> Den 2024-10-15 skrev Stefan Ram :
>> Martin =?UTF-8?Q?Sch=C3=B6=C3=B6n?= wrote or
>> quoted:
>>>l.set_data(x0, y0)
>>
>> Well, I got to say, it's pretty rad that you're rocking Python!
>> That language is the bee's knees, for real.
>>
>> A
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:09:56 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> if definition:
> print(f"\n{word_type.capitalize()}\n")
> print("\n".join(definition))
> break
I don't know if that was intended but the 'break' kicks you out of
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:41:28 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> That is so cool. I've had the same idea to use the API with AWS for my
> bbs. I also want to do the same thing for other government sites like
> ecfr for pulling aviation regulations.
>
> Is your code somewhere I can look at it?
The NOAA? I di
On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:49:48 - (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> The irony of my putdown is that PHP can do it about as simply. But don’t
> expect your typical PHP programmers to know that ...
It has had amazing longevity for something that was born as Personal Home
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:29:30 -0400, avi.e.gross wrote:
> If everyone will pardon my curiosity, who and what purposes are these
> smaller environments for and do many people use them?
>
> I mean the price of a typical minimal laptop is not a big deal today. So
> are these for some sort of embedded
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:23:42 +1200, dn wrote:
> Adding a display to the Pico-W is my next project... After that, gyros
> (am thinking it may not go so well, on balance... hah!).
https://toptechboy.com/two-axis-tilt-meter-displaying-pitch-and-roll-
using-an-mpu6050-on-the-raspberry-pi-pico-w/
You
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:56:54 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> With MicroPython on the Pico, you use some command line utility to
> transfer files instead, but it is no big deal.
Loading the UF2 is easy.
https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/microcontrollers/
micropython.html
I use VS Code with th
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:36:02 +1200, dn wrote:
> On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>
>>> The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python,
>>> unfortunately.
>
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:10:00 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> If you have lynx, you can visit this gopher interface to Wikipedia:
>
> gopher://gopherpedia.com
Yeah, that works and I could find Hillbilly Elegy (film). The text was
fine but the 'Accolades' table was garbled. It came up on the Netflix
reco
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python,
> unfortunately.
I think it's up to 3.4 in general and erratic past that. It doesn't have
the match from 3.10. I don't think it has f-strings though it may have
the wal
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:43:59 +1200, dn wrote:
> The OpSys on this machine no longer features finger (available for
> installation as an 'extra').
My Ubuntu 22.04 box has it, the Fedora 40 one doesn't. Ubuntu offers to
install gopher, Fedora doesn't. Go figure.
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:15:37 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> Lesser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as:
>
> gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc.
>
> An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your
> city name as the user. This isn't mine, but it is
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:04:14 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> I am on forums but tend to stay away from them unless I absolutely have
> to. I like newsgroups as they are - though I have noticed a massive drop
> in users ever since Google dropped their groups service. I also saw a
> minor drop in spam.
Abso
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:16:48 -0400, avi.e.gross wrote:
> I do wonder if the people at python.org want multiple forums. There is
> also one that sort of tutors people that obviously has an overlapping
> but different audience.
https://realpython.com/
That's a mixed bag. Joining is $50 USD/month o
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:26:39 +0100, Daniel wrote:
> New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for
> this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I
> have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on
> pasting code in messages? Do yall p
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 03:53:42 -0600, Greg Walters wrote:
> The biggest caveat is that the shared variable MUST exist before it can
> be examined or used (not surprising).
There are a few other questions. Let's say config.py contains a variable
like 'font' that is a user set preference or a calibr
On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 22:55:34 +, Barry wrote:
>> On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:54, rbowman via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does that work with virtualenv or conda? I'm slowly getting up to speed
>> with those.
>
> Conda is its own thing, not need for py.exe
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:27:58 -0700, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Using the py launcher as your Windows association with .py and.pyw files
> you can have multiple versions of python installed and everything works
> as it should, according to your shebang, just like on Unix.
Does that work with virtuale
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 12:11:18 +1300, Greg Ewing wrote:
> On 6/11/23 6:34 pm, rbowman wrote:
>> We've found even if you directly ask the user often the answer is 'I
>> dunno' or some mythology they have constructed to explain the problem.
>
> This seems to apply to hardware issues as well. Louis Ros
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 19:22:49 -0600, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> Gotta wonder for sure. It could also be the case of programmers
> depending on user input but the users insist on living with the bugs
> and/or working around them. We made crash reporting dead simple to
> report on and still users didn't b
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