question on python syntax

If I type this in shell $ ./yourfile.py 12:34 PM & What does '$', '.', '/' and '& means in this succession? Note: 12:34 PM is a argument to the yourfile.py. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to insert in a string @ a index

Thanks guys for you help. I ended up doing this way (for the records)... t1 = "hello world hello. hello. \nwhy world hello" while indexhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Barry Warsaw giving Python talk at NASA

This is at the Goddard campus: --amk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PyCon: proposals due by Tuesday 10/31

Final reminder: if you want to submit a proposal to PyCon, you should do it by end of Tuesday, October 31st. for more info The deadline for tutorials is November 15th: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/CallForTutorials PyCon is the Python community confere

Re: OT: What's up with the starship?

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:50:03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > suggests that it was sufficiently obscure that either a) nobody who knew > about it found a way to take advantage of it, or b) it was only recently It might well be difficult to exploit to run arbitrary cod

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

On 9 Oct 2006 06:36:30 -0700, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Meanwhile, despite the python.org codebase presumably running > various commercial sites, ... Nothing should have given you this impression! python.org's formatting is handled through a custom script called Pyram

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

On 04 Oct 2006 06:44:24 -0700, Paul Rubin <> wrote: > Right now there is not even agreement on what the goal is. The goal is a new tracker for python.org that the developers like better; the original call lists 3 reasons (bad interface; lack of reliability; lack of workflow controls).

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:37:47 GMT, Giovanni Bajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am seriously concerned > that the PSF infrastructure committee EVER considered non open-source > applications for this. In fact, I thought that was an implicit requirement in > the selection. Being open source

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:19:10 GMT, Giovanni Bajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... using a non open source tracker (called JIRA - never heard > before of course) for Python itself. Other projects do use it; see for a partial list, and a link to th

Re: The Python world tries to be polite [formerly offensive to another language]

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:10:14 +0100, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My God, Perl 6 is going to be even less comprehensible that Perl 5, > which was at least usable. Is »=>« really a Perl6 operator? That's too > funny! While we poor Python people have to cope with writing:

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:10:51 +0200, Daniel Nogradi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > start a new one. What would be very useful though is more visible > links on the python.org site to the activestate repository where > appropriate. I'm not sure the pyhon.org people would want to promote > acti

Re: Is it just me, or is Sqlite3 goofy?

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:54:25 -0500, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Any new changes won't get in 2.5c2, which should be > released tomorrow, but will get into 2.5final if the fixes are made by > about the 17th.) And in fact the formatted development versio

Re: Is it just me, or is Sqlite3 goofy?

On 12 Sep 2006 13:03:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I appologize for saying that. Got a little carried away > by the flames. Apology accepted; no problem. > That and fixing the broken examples. That's also done. I fixed the executescript.py example, and tr

Re: Is it just me, or is Sqlite3 goofy?

On 12 Sep 2006 10:24:00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, knowing that, would you agree that > > > If switching to a larger database such as PostgreSQL or Oracle > is later necessary, the switch should be relatively easy. > > > is misleading if not outright untrut

Re: Clarify Regex in Python.

On 12 Sep 2006 05:07:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Problem is, I want to know how can I force match functions to match > the pattern any location in the subject. i.e I want to turn off before > said behaviour. Use search() instead; that's why the method is th

Re: Is it just me, or is Sqlite3 goofy?

I've made the following edits: Index: whatsnew25.tex === --- whatsnew25.tex (revision 51828) +++ whatsnew25.tex (working copy) @@ -2116,14 +2116,16 @@ SQLite embedded database, has been added to the standard library under

Re: Where are the source files for the Python FAQs?

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:43:38 GMT, Eriol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Kuhlman wrote: > >> Can someone tell me the location of the reST source files for the >> Python FAQs.  I have not been able to find them. > > https://svn.python.org/www/trunk/pydotorg/doc/faq/ Caution: I intend t

Re: How ahead are you guys in the (Python) real world?

On 28 Aug 2006 20:13:54 -0700, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since I haven't used Python at work, I am using Python 2.5 right now. > However I wonder, how fast are you guys moving from version to version > at work? At our company, we build a product on top of Debian (product line 1) o

Re: EuroPython 2006 and Py3.0

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:45:07 +0200, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> This attitude may have some downsides. The Python developers don't know >> everything, other people can have some experience of computer languages >> too. > > "some experience of

Looking for examples related to advanced python string, list and map operations

Hi, Is there any online resource that gives examples about advanced python string, list and map operations? Today I saw this and I found that I have to work more on mentioned topics: numbers = [72, 101, 108, 108, 111, 44, 32, 119, 111, 114, 108, 100, 33] print filter(lambda n: n % 2 == 0

Re: Win XP: Problem with shell scripting in Python

>Does it overcome the problem that you reported earlier, that the contents of the output file from BCP were out of order? Yes, it does. But, to be honest, I don't know how!!! "John Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 10

Re: Win XP: Problem with shell scripting in Python

Here is what I came up with after John and Fredrik's help. import os import sys def Execute(shell_command,logStream = sys.stdout): print >>logStream, shell_command child_stdin, child_stdout_and_stderr = os.popen4(shell_command) commad_output = child_stdout_and_stderr.read()

Re: Win XP: Problem with shell scripting in Python

> I dare hardly suggest this, but might it not be better to use Python's > database functionality to perform the task? The language can access both > databases, and you might find it quicker. Then again, if your database > experience is limited, you may not ... > > regards > Steve > -- > Steve

Re: Win XP: Problem with shell scripting in Python

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.M wrote: > > > in python, "MD" is spelled os.mkdir. > >> Am I missing anything? > > the difference between STDOUT and STDERR, and the difference between > bu

Win XP: Problem with shell scripting in Python

Hi, I am having difficulty with shell scripting in Python. I use the following command to run a DOS command and put the return value in a Python variable: print os.popen('DIR').read() It works very fine with DIR command, but for commands like "MD :" it doesn't return the error message

Win XP Error: There is not enough space on the disk

Hi, I am using ActivePython 2.4.on windows XP I created test.py that contains the following simple script: import os os.system("dir *.py") When I run the script, it works fine. But, when I run the following command on windows XP: Test.py > file.txt I receive this error: "The

Re: os.system and command output

> Try: > > s = os.popen("DIR").read() > Thanks Steve. Is there anyway I can get the exit code (what os.system returns) from os.popen? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

os.system and command output

Hi, How can I run an OS command and have the command's output (to stdout) in my string variable? For example in windows, this command should return a list of files within directory: os.system("DIR") I am looking for an alternative function that returns the DIR command output in a str

Re: Open Source Charting Tool

aphics can do 2D and pie charts, but I don't think it does > 3D charts yet. > > www.reporlab.org > > > Larry Bates > > A.M wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I developed a HTML reporting tool that renders Oracle data to HTML and >> Oracle. >>

Open Source Charting Tool

Hi, I developed a HTML reporting tool that renders Oracle data to HTML and Oracle. At this point I have to add charts (3d bars and pie charts) to this application. I don't think that I have to do it from scratch. Is there any open source charting tool that help me create charts in JPG or

Re: Conditional Expressions in Python 2.4

>> a = 1 == 1 and "Yes" or "No" >> a = ("No", "Yes")[1 == 1] Smart! Thanks alot. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

"Sion Arrowsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > gregarican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I came from using Ruby about a year or so [ ... ] > > That's an interesting way round. Why did you consider Python if > you already knew Ruby, and which is now your preferred la

Re: New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

productive day. Thanks everybody for help. "gregarican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dear A.M., > > The day is complete. My TPS reports still aren't on my desk. Either > with or without cover sheets. Not a good time to try t

Re: Can Python format long integer 123456789 to 12,3456,789 ?

Thanks for help. Is there any comprehensive library for number formatting available on the net? Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Can Python format long integer 123456789 to 12,3456,789 ?

Hi, Is there any built in feature in Python that can format long integer 123456789 to 12,3456,789 ? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Conditional Expressions in Python 2.4

Hi, I am using Python 2.4. I read the PEP 308 at: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0308/ I tried the statement: a= "Yes" if 1==1 else "No" but the interpreter doesn't accept it. Do we have the conditional expressions in Python 2.4? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/

Re: Using print instead of file.write(str)

it worth pointing this out in case, like some I know, you come across a cropper with certain output streams. All the best, Jon. Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > A.M a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > > > I found print much more flexible that write method. Can I use print >

Re: New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.M wrote: > >> This is my 1st day that I am seriously diving into Python and I have to >> finish this application by the end of today. Maybe it wasn't a good idea >> to

Re: New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.M wrote: > >> This is my 1st day that I am seriously diving into Python and I have to >> finish this application by the end of today. Maybe it wasn't a good idea >> to

Re: How to format datetime values

"BartlebyScrivener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Are you trying to get banned, or what? > > It's the equivalent of me asking you: > > Hey, does Ruby have anything like dictionaries and will you teach me > about strings? Oh, and what's an object? > > Go read the b

Using print instead of file.write(str)

Hi, I found print much more flexible that write method. Can I use print instead of file.write method? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to format datetime values

Hi, I have a datetime value and want to format it to "June 1, 2006" shape. How can I do that? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Member index in toples

Hi, I have a tuple like this: T = ("One","Two","Three","Four") Is there any built-in way to find what is the index of "Two" withouot looping within the tuple? Is the same feature available for lists or dictionaries? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "A.M" wrote: > >> I am new to Python, with C#/Java background > > that's not really much of an excuse for not reading *any* Python tutorial > before > you jump i

Python for Visual Basic or C# programmers

Hi, I am trying to find the equivalent functions such as vb's str or asc in Python. Is there any resource that help me to find these kinds of functions in Python faster? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

New to Python: Do we have the concept of Hash in Python?

Hi, I am new to Python, with C#/Java background Is there any built-in Hash implementation in Python? I am looking for a container that I can access to it's items by name. Something like this: Print container["memeberName"] I am asking this because I learned that DB-API in Python does

Re: DB-API: how can I find the column names in a cursor?

ch reduces my program's readability. Can I access to row's contents by column name? Thanks again, Alan "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "A.M" wrote: > >> The problem is I don't know how to find ou

DB-API: how can I find the column names in a cursor?

Hi I use a code similar to this to retrieve data from Oracle database: import cx_Oracle con = cx_Oracle.connect("me/[EMAIL PROTECTED]") cur = con.cursor() outcur = con.cursor() cur.execute(""" BEGIN MyPkg.MyProc(:cur); END;""", cur=outcur) for row in out_cur:

Re: Oracle Data Access in Python

"Bill Scherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.M wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I am familiar with Perl's DBI programming. >> >> >> >> In Python, do we access to Oracle by using DB

Re: Are ActivePython scripts compatible with Linux?

ngs" in your code, put them in > a function or class that can easily be rewritten for the > specific OS you are porting to. Don't spread them out all > through your code. It is much easier to rewrite a couple of > functions/classes that are OS-specific than it is to try

Oracle Data Access in Python

Hi, I am familiar with Perl's DBI programming. In Python, do we access to Oracle by using DBI? Is Oracle DBD driver included with Python distributions? What is the most common strategy for accessing to Oracle data through Python? Any help would be appreciated, Alan -- http://m

Are ActivePython scripts compatible with Linux?

Hi, I am planning to develop python applications on windows and run them on Linux. Are ActivePython scripts compatible with Linux? Is there any guideline that explains the compatibility issues between python in different platforms? What would be the best approach for what I am trying to do

Re: Swaying A Coder Away From Python

On Thu, 4 May 2006 13:08:52 +0200, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > who's this, and why does he think that sampling some random comments by > some random bloggers should mean anything to anyone ? (and why do you > seem to think that this matters, btw ?) Michal Wallace, the orig

Re: Python sample code for PLSQL REF CURSORS

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks alot "Gerhard Häring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.M wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am having hard time to find a sample that shows me how to return an OUT >> REF CURSOR from my o

Python for Perl programmers

Hi, Is there any efficient online resource or book that help experienced Perl programmers to Python? Thank you, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python sample code for PLSQL REF CURSORS

Hi, I am having hard time to find a sample that shows me how to return an OUT REF CURSOR from my oracle stored procedure to my python program. The technique is explained here for Java and Visual Basic: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/8i/UsingRefCursorsToReturnRecordsets.php I am look

Re: proposed Python logo

On 21 Apr 2006 09:17:52 -0700, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'd like some variation of used as a logo. > That has real potential, but I bet it's trademarked. It's taken from a Renaissance painting (http://witcombe.sbc.edu/davincicode/bronzino

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:07:27 -0500, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> [horse for horse in horses if horse.pretty] I'm familiar with this one as: all(pony for pony in ponies if pony.pretty). Never knew there was a version with "horse", not "pony". Jane Siberry does a nice rendit

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:25:19 +0100, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and while you're at it, change "python-dev" to "developers" and > "psf" to "foundation" (or use a title on that link). I've changed the PSF link, but am not sure what to do about the python-dev link. As others

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:50:26 +1100, richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I did what people always do in this situation, I asked Barry Warsaw to > name. it. And he did, "Cheese Shop". I liked the name, so it was done. When > the new pydotorg machines went live last year, so too did the n

Re: What has become of the Python 2004 papers?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:00:26 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the plan is to move most/all the PyCon-related stuff to the > pycon.org domain, though I'm not certain about that. No, that's not the plan. The PSF doesn't own the domain, and I want the data to

Re: PyCon2006 - will the content be available for download?

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:02:32 GMT, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried it too. There don't seem to be any audios for 2006, which I > think is what the OP was interested in as well. 2006 audios probably won't begin to appear for another week or two. --amk -- http://mail.py

Re: Rethinking the Python tutorial

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:03:55 -0500, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What we are talking about here is a Python Language Users' Guide. I actually started on such a document over the holidays, but have only described about 3 or 4 statements at this point. However, it's probably n

Re: Python module for the LX200 command set

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:20:09 -0800, RayS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Hi Ray - I'm the co-ordinator of Project Galileo - great to see >>someone else is developing code too, especially in Python. (Assuming this refers to ...) This subject would make an

Re: beta.python.org content

On 27 Jan 2006 08:08:58 -0800, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about some permutation of the PyCon logo? It is really quite > brilliant. ... > http://www.python.org/pycon/2006/logo.png > > Kudos to whoever came up with that, by the way! It was Michael Bernstein who des

Re: beta.python.org content

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:33:06 +, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://beta.python.org/about/beginners/ My suggestion would be "too much text". IMHO, people do not read paragraphs of material on the web. The basic structure shouldn't be the paragraph, but the bullet po

Re: Who is www.python.org for? (was Re: New Python.org website ?)

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:43:45 -0600, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me, the most important function of the python.org site > is as a quick-reference to deeper documentation that I > actually need in the process of writing Python code. docs.python.org is probably the site mo

Re: New Python.org website ?

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:20:37 +0100, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd prefer a separate wiki (at least initially). Do we have enough > admin resources to set up an 1.5 instance ? I doubt it's practical to run 1.3 alongside 1.5. python.org uses mod_python, so unless the Moin

Re: New Python.org website ?

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:34:21 +0100, Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I see this correctly, Fredrik would volonteer to (help) implement > something that imports the current python.org content into a Wiki. First question I have: which wiki? Does this go into the existing Pyt

Re: OT: Degrees as barriers to entry [was Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:13:01 +, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > attempt to draw direct comparisons. Maybe having an uncle helped you in > to the trade, but it didn't cut you much slack in terms of required > standards, hence the absence of cathedral-shaped heaps of rubble.

Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:05:08 +, Ed Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes; I've long worried about this, but have no idea how to fix the >> problem. Python users largely talk to other Python users, not to the >> world at large. > > A good start would be for there to be a way for

Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

On 20 Dec 2005 15:05:15 -0800, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python people don't really think that way. As a community we really > seem to inherit the open source dysfunction of trying harder to impress > each other than to reach out to the rest of the world. The problem is Y

Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:15:17 -0800, Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you claim there's a web project that's unfeasible to do in Ruby, > you'd better come up with a strong example. If you're making no such > claim, which would be counter to the claims of the Ruby community, th

Re: Documentation suggestions

On 8 Dec 2005 08:00:25 -0800, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bulleted points in BeginnersGuide/Overview are, again, things that > are important to programmers ("Automatic garbage collection frees you > from the hassles of memory management" means nothing to me, even now

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:45:12 +0100, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> to make it better. Maybe it could be "'', from '' >> by ". Then the text for your file would be "'The zlib module', >> from '(the eff-bot guide to) The Standard Python Library' by Fredrik Lundh." > > that sh

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:17:59 +0100, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cool. can you post a sample page somewhere? It's not terribly interesting at the moment. The generated LaTeX looks like this: \seeurl{http://effbot.org/librarybook/zlib.htm}{The zlib module} And that gets f

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:36:52 -0600, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > of the seealso environment. I'll talk to Fred about it and begin > assembling a patch. Patch #1376361: http://www.python.org/sf/1376361 . I still need to talk to Fred about this

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:58:36 -0800, Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I experimented with some more re-organization, but I don't see away > to attach the resulting file in the SF comments, so I'll post it > here instead. I've attached your file to the patch. Some comments: >

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:10:18 -0500, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK I'll bite. That Beginners Guide page has bugged me for a long time. > It's a wiki page but it is marked as immutable so I can't change it. > Here are some immediate suggestions: Good suggestions; thanks! I

Re: Documentation suggestions

On 7 Dec 2005 05:51:45 -0800, Iain King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Argh, you made me look at the html again - at least now I know *why* it > is so disgusting. I understand there's a new version coming out soon, > hopefully in html 4 strict or xhtml. I'm sure at that point it'll be > ea

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 07:45:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just because that audience is small doesn't mean they are unimportant. > There are currently four actively maintained/developed implementations of > Python. A common language reference manual is important fo

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:36:24 +0100, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > or just add a marker (in some for me unknown way), and postprocess > the HTML files. I'm not sure the links does necessarily belong in e.g. > PDF renderings of the documentation, but that's of course up to the >

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:29:33 -0800, Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not that helpful. "Miscellaneous Services", in particular, gives no clue to > treasures it contains. I would prefer, for example, to see the data > structure modules: collections, heapq, array etc... given

Re: Documentation suggestions

On 6 Dec 2005 10:10:09 -0800, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > stable personal pages that should be linked in . But I do think that > we should encourage some specific process for new or revised > tutorial/howto contributions, like encouraging people put such material > in the wik

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:33:05 +0100, > I've proposed adding support for semi-automatic linking to external > documents, based on a simple tagging model, a couple of times, e.g. > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2005-May/280751.html Very interesting. There could be a manually-ma

Re: Documentation suggestions

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:28:12 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow I think Guido would eventually put his (16-ton) foot down. ;-) Maybe, but he hasn't put his foot down on new-style classes yet, which were added in 2.2. It would be all to the good if the BDFL (or t

Documentation suggestions

Here are some thoughts on reorganizing Python's documentation, with one big suggestion. The tutorial seems to be in pretty good shape because Raymond Hettinger has been keeping it up to date. It doesn't cover everything, but it's a solid introduction, and if people don't find it works for them, t

Re: Bitching about the documentation...

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 00:05:38 -0500, François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a relatively recent phenomenon that maintainers go berzerk, foaming > at the mouth over forms, borders, colors, and various other mania! :-) It's largely to ensure that the ideas aren't lost. E-mail si

Re: Bitching about the documentation...

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:56:50 GMT, Bengt Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A little more effort could present the referrer page with clickable > paragraphs and other elements, to zoom in to what the commenter > wants to comment on. And an automatic diff could be prepared for > editors, a

Re: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 2)

On 5 Dec 2005 14:10:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I was running Python-2.4.1 so I upgraded to 2.4.2 and guess > what? The docs still reference the old Howto. Perhaps you meant > to say "will be fixed in 2.5" rather than "has been fixed"? The docs referen

Re: XML and namespaces

On 2 Dec 2005 06:16:29 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course. Minidom implements level 2 (thus the "NS" at the end of the > method name), which means that its APIs should all be namespace aware. > The bug is that writexml() and thus toxml() are not so. Hm, OK.

Re: XML and namespaces

On 30 Nov 2005 07:22:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted: > >>> element = document.createElementNS("DAV:", "href") This call is incorrect; the signature is createElementNS(namespaceURI, qualifiedName). If you call .createElementNS('whatever', 'DAV:href'), the o

Re: Why are there no ordered dictionaries?

On 22 Nov 2005 01:41:44 -0800, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone actually use this site? While the Vaults offered a nice > place and a nice interface the Cheese Shop has the appeal of a code > slum. Looking at the Cheese Shop's home page at http://cheeseshop.python.or

PyCon 2006 Call for Tutorials

PyCon 2006 Call for Tutorials -- Enjoy teaching classes or tutorials? PyCon 2006 is looking for proposals for a pre-conference tutorials day. PyCon 2006 will be held February 24-26 in Addison, Texas (near Dallas). Tutorials will be held on February 23, at

Re: python.org offline

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:18:06 +0100, Sybren Stuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I can read. My question is: does anyone know why this happens so > often lately? I suspect this is teething problems related to the move to a new server. I've bumped up the number of Apache processes, so w

PyCon: proposal deadline is today

ssion site:http://submit.python.org A.M. Kuchling Chair, PyCon 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PyCon: suggestions for tutorial speakers wanted

A planned new addition to PyCon 2006 is a day of tutorials before the conference; tutorials will cost extra and give attendees a chance to take a 3-hour introduction to Python (or some other topic) before they leap into conference-going. A Call for Tutorials will be posted soon. It'll go to comp.l

Reminder: PyCon proposals due in a week

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Reminder: PyCon proposal deadline is Oct. 31st

The deadline for PyCon proposals is now three weeks away; proposals must be received by Oct. 31st. Read the call for proposals for what we're looking for and how to submit: <http://www.python.org/pycon/2006/cfp> The proposal submission site is <http://submit.python.org>. A.

Re: C#3.0 and lambdas

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:46:54 +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. I am a lurker in this list and the python-devel list and I've also > noticed that increasingly big discussions happen over fairly minor > things. Python's DB API is still stuck at 2.0 and we can't e

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