Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-19 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > The main thing that I notice is that there is a heavy "bias" in > academia towards mathematical models. I understand that Turing > Machines, for example, were originally abstract computational concepts > before there was an implementation in hardware, so I have some > sympa

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > From: en.wikipedia.org: Programming_paradigm: > > "A programming paradigm is a fundamental style of computer > programming. There are four main paradigms: object-oriented, > imperative, functional and declarative. Their foundations are distinct > models of computation: Tur

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > > Having said that, theorists do want to unify concepts wherever possible > > and wherever they make sense. Imperative programming types, which I > > will call "storage types", are semantically the same as classes. > > I like that word "storage type", it makes it much clea

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-15 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > After the 2001 "type/class unification" , it went towards Alan Kay's ideal > of "everything is an object" > > As a contrast, this is very distinct from C++, where everything is > concretely rooted in the language's type model which in *itself* is > rooted (from it's lon

Re: death of newsgroups (Microsoft closing their newsgroups)

2010-07-16 Thread Uday S Reddy
On 7/13/2010 7:43 PM, Xah Lee wrote: I use comp.lang.lisp, comp.emacs since about 1999. Have been using them pretty much on a weekly basis in the past 10 years. Starting about 2007, the traffic has been increasingly filled with spam, and the posters are always just the 20 or 30 known faces. I t