* Chris Angelico (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 23:35:52 +1100)
> I see. So you want to be able to have something that looks and
> feels
> like a dictionary, but uses a different way of looking things up.
> Makes reasonable sense, on the surface.
>
> Before you go down that route, I strongly recommend reading
* Steve D'Aprano (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 22:40:19 +1100)
>
> Further thoughts come to mind, after looking more closely at your code.
>
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:27 pm, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > def values(inst):
> > if isinstance(inst._generic, di
* Steve D'Aprano (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:10:08 +1100)
>
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:27 pm, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts
> > like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and
>
* Anny Mous (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:46:25 +1100)
>
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:43 pm, Peter Otten wrote:
>
> > Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> >
> >> [Crossposted to tutor and general mailing list]
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'd like t
* Peter Otten (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:43:01 +0100)
>
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts
> > like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and
> > acts like a "dictitem&quo
[Crossposted to tutor and general mailing list]
Hi,
I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts
like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and
acts like a "dictitem" ([(key1, value1), (key2, value2), ...]) if
instantiated with a list (that is dic
* Peter Otten (Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:38:26 +0100)
>
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > How can I test for type or instance of dictviews like dict_values?
>
> Why do you want to?
Thanks, for the `collections.abc.ValuesView` tip.
The code in question is part of an attempt to
How can I test for type or instance of dictviews like dict_values?
`isinstance({}.values, dict_values)` gives
`NameError: name 'dict_values' is not defined`
"""
>>> type({}.values())
"""
Thorsten
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* eryk sun (Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:55:23 +)
>
> If it works like cmd.exe, then it does its own search using %Path%
> and %PathExt%. For example:
>
> C:\>cmd /c "set "PATH=" & cmd"
> 'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> operable program or batch file.
>
> Bu
* eryk sun (Fri, 11 Nov 2016 06:23:50 +)
>
> That's the application directory, which is the first place
> CreateProcess looks (via the SearchPath call), as both of my examples
> shows. In my case python.exe is located in the standard 3.5 system
> installation path, "C:\Program Files\Python35".
* Thomas Nyberg (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:46:06 -0500)
>
> On 11/10/2016 05:32 PM, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > Yes. That works. But it's not like subprocess should work.
> >
>
> It certainly is odd. I can at least confirm that when I try to run your
> code I get the er
* eryk sun (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:04:02 +)
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Thorsten Kampe
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by
> > extending the path variable and executing "python.exe". It looks like
* Thomas Nyberg (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:07:35 -0500)
>
> On 11/10/2016 04:58 PM, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by
> > extending the path variable and executing "python.exe". It looks li
Hi,
I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by
extending the path variable and executing "python.exe". It looks like
subprocess will always run the current executing Python.
The following snippet demonstrates the problem:
"""
import os, subprocess
os.environ['PATH'] = ''
prin
* Ned Batchelder (Sat, 1 Oct 2016 17:41:28 -0700 (PDT))
>
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 6:25:16 PM UTC-4, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Ben Finney (Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:12:46 +1100)
> > >
> > > Thorsten Kampe writes:
> > >
> > > &
* Ben Finney (Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:12:46 +1100)
>
> Thorsten Kampe writes:
>
> > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`.
Indenting solves the problem. I'd rather keep it one line per value
but it solves the problem.
Thorsten
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* Terry Reedy (Sat, 1 Oct 2016 15:44:39 -0400)
>
> On 10/1/2016 10:56 AM, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to
> > signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break?
>
> Without an example or two, I don'
Hi,
ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to
signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break?
Thorsten
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* Terry Reedy (Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:51:40 -0400)
>
> On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or
> > "diacritics" as linguists do.
>
> I am a native born American and I have never before heard or seen
> non-accent di
* Martin Schöön (17 Sep 2016 20:20:12 GMT)
>
> Den 2016-09-17 skrev Kouli :
> > Hello, try the Unidecode module - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Unidecode.
> >
> > Kouli
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
> >> Hi, I want to convert strings in which the characters with accents
>
* Thorsten Kampe (Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:25:05 +0200)
>
> * Peng Yu (Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:31:37 -0500)
> >
> > Hi, `set -v` in bash allows the print of the command before print the
> > output of the command.
> >
> > I want to do the similar thing --- print a p
* Peng Yu (Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:31:37 -0500)
>
> Hi, `set -v` in bash allows the print of the command before print the
> output of the command.
>
> I want to do the similar thing --- print a python command and then
> print the output of the command. Is it possible with python?
Rather easily. I've
* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:38:44 + (UTC))
By the way: there is a script called `win_add2path.py` in your Python
distribution which "is a simple script to add Python to the Windows
search path. It modifies the current user (HKCU) tree of the
registry.". That should do most of what
* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:38:44 + (UTC))
>
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:30:59 + (UTC))
> > > I need to extend the PATH environment variable on Windows.
> >
> > 1. Add the path component yourself into HKE
* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:30:59 + (UTC))
> I need to extend the PATH environment variable on Windows.
>
> So far, I use:
>
>system('setx PATH "%PATH%;'+bindir+'"')
>
> The problem: In a new process (cmd.exe) PATH contains a lot of double
> elements. As far as I have understoo
* Ian Kelly (Sun, 29 Mar 2015 03:13:31 -0600)
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Thorsten Kampe
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to run two processes concurrently (either through a builtin
> > module or a third-party). One is a "background" task and the othe
Hi,
I'd like to run two processes concurrently (either through a builtin
module or a third-party). One is a "background" task and the other is
displaying a spinner (for which I already found good packages).
The two processes do not have to communicate with each other; only
the second should be
* candide (Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:41:11 +0200)
> After browsing source code, I realize that parenthesis are not
> necessary ("not" has higher precedence than "in").
Lower precedence.
Thorsten
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* Chris Angelico (Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:52:05 +0100)
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Nobody wrote:
> > BTW, unless you're using Windows 95/98/ME, you don't have a "DOS
> > Prompt". The command prompt in Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista/7 isn't DOS.
>
> I don't see this as any sloppier than referring to
* f...@slick.airforce-one.org (13 Aug 2011 15:21:01 GMT)
> I want to have dialog boxes (a message with Yes/No/Cancel options,
> possibly with keyboard accels) in python + curses.
Use Python Dialog[1] which is basically a wrapper for dialog boxes
around ncurses.
Thorsten
[1] http://pythondialog.s
* Christian Gelinek (Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:55:37 +0930)
> Any ideas on how to get the thing to run under (real) Windows,
> hopefully without having to edit existing sources of people who left
> our company ages ago?
python -t
"Issue a warning when a source file mixes tabs and spaces for
indentation i
* Fernando Perez (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:26:50 + (UTC))
> on behalf of the IPython development team, I'm thrilled to announce,
> after more than two years of development work, the official release of
> IPython 0.11.
>
> This release brings a long list of improvements and new features
> (along wit
* Andrew Berg (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:36:43 -0500)
> On 2011.07.31 02:41 AM, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > Another approach would be named tuples instead of dictionaries or
> > flat SQL tables.
> What would the advantage of that be?
QueueItem.x264['avs']['f
* Andrew Berg (Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:10:43 -0500)
> I'm looking for pointers on design. I'm inexperienced but cautious and
> am mostly wondering if there's an easier way to "format" this data or
> if this approach will lead to problems.
The "QueueItem.x264['avs']['filter']['fft3d']['ffte'])" example
* Anssi Saari (Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:28:49 +0300)
>
> Thorsten Kampe writes:
>
> > The "perfect programming font" is just the one that looks so good that
> > you would also use it for writing email. Dejavu Sans Mono is pretty
> > good. Consolas looks a
* Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:20:15 +0300)
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 14:51, Thorsten Kampe
> wrote:
> > * Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:11:40 +0300)
> >> So long as the indentation lines up (which it does, with tabs or
> >> spaces) then I do not se
* rantingrick (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:57:10 -0700 (PDT))
> Choose to follow it or die of exceptions; your choice.
One of the best things I've read for a long time :-).
> The past is bickering over selfish personal freedoms, the future of is
> unity.
And a tab is *exactly* four spaces. Not three. No
* gene heskett (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:29:03 -0400)
> On Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:28:16 AM Dotan Cohen did opine:
> > I'm still looking for the perfect programming font. Suggestions
> > welcomed.
>
> When you find it Dotan, let me know, I've been looking since the later
> '70's.
The "perfect program
* Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:35:15 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 05:02:22 -0500)
> >> I still don't understand. Whitespace to the left of an assignment
> >> to signify an indent and whitespace a
* Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:11:40 +0300)
> So long as the indentation lines up (which it does, with tabs or
> spaces) then I do not see any problem with variable-width.
> What are the counter-arguments?
Alignment doesn't line up.
Thorsten
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* Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 05:02:22 -0500)
> > And if we work on a project together, we have to agree on formatting
> > anyway, the indent size being the least important one.
> How is indent size unimportant with regard to formatting?
Take some code or yours and format it with three and with
* Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:36:31 -0500)
> Not everyone agrees on how many spaces an indent should be (whether an
> indent is a tab or a space-tab), which is a good reason to use tabs.
Not everyone who doesn't agree on indent size actually cares enough
about indent size - especially in som
* Andrew Berg (Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:29:30 -0500)
> Of everything I've read on tabs vs. spaces, this is what makes the
> most sense to me:
> http://www.iovene.com/61/
Interesting one, especially the - from the coder's point of view -
artificial distinction between indentation and alignment.
What i
* rantingrick (Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:51:02 -0700 (PDT))
> 3) Tabs create freedom in the form of user controlled indention.
>
> Indention width should be a choice of the reader NOT the author. We
> should never "code in" indention width; but that is EXACTLY what we
> are doing with spaces! No, the re
* Grant Edwards (Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:03:22 + (UTC))
> On 2011-07-13, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> >> and that that block is to be considered in relation to what was just
> >> said, before the colon.
> >
> > The indentation makes it abundantly clear to the
* Steven D'Aprano (Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:07:17 +1000)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Thomas Jollans (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:16:17 +0200)
> >> Basically, it looks better, and is more readable.
> >
> > People tend to overlook the colon for the same reason they tend to
* Thomas Jollans (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:16:17 +0200)
> Basically, it looks better, and is more readable.
People tend to overlook the colon for the same reason they tend to
forget to set the colon in the first place:
a) it's a very weak marker in comparison to indentation and
b) it looks like doubl
* Dave Angel (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:36:48 -0400)
> On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Anthony Kong wrote:
> > My immediate response is: it allows us to fit statements into one
> > line. e.g.
> > if a == 1: print a
> >
> You're confusing the colon with the semi-colon. If you want two
> statements on the same
* Cathy James (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:42:10 -0500)
> Please kindly help- i have a project where I need to plot dict results
> as a histogram. I just can't get the y- axis to print right. May
> someone please help? I have pulled my hair for the past two weeks, I
> am a few steps ahead, but stuck for no
* sturlamolden (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT))
> On 11 Jul, 16:10, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > And as soon as developers start developing for Unix customers (say
> > Komodo, for instance), they start following the "Windows model" - as
> > you call it.
>
* sturlamolden (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:44:22 -0700 (PDT))
> On 11 Jul, 14:39, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The Unix model is: a collection of general-purpose, customisable
> > tools, with clear standard interfaces that work together well, and
> > are easily replaceable without losing the benefit of all the
* John Gordon (Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:23:52 + (UTC))
> I prefer this usage:
>
> logger.error('%s could not be stored - %s' % \
> (self.preset_file, sys.exc_info()[1]))
The syntax for formatting logging messages according to the
documentation is:
Logger.error(msg, *args)
NOT
Logger.erro
* Gelonida (Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:32:45 +0200)
> One thing, which I would still like to know (though I don't need it
> for my current task) is what to do to to setup an ACE on a directory,
> such, that all entries below will inherit the directory's access
> settings.
Such a thing does not exist.
Th
* Gelonida (Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:53:15 +0200)
> On this machine I used os.mkdir() / os.makedirs() and I had permission
> problems , but only on Windows7.
Windows file permissions haven't changed since 1995. The only addition
was dynamic inheritance support back in 2000.
> I expect, that the win3
* Gelonida (Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:57:57 +0200)
> What do I have to do under python windows to create a directory with
> all permissions, such, that new files / directories created below will
> inherit the permissions.
Exactly nothing (except creating the directory, of course).
> The reason I am ask
* Andrew Berg (Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:02:54 -0500)
> On 2011.06.24 03:48 AM, Duncan Booth wrote:
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/130763/request-uac-elevation-from-within-a-python-script
> Heh. On Windows 7, using 'runas' for the operation in os.startfile()
> gives me a normal UAC prompt.
That
* miamia (Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:08:55 -0700 (PDT))
> In my program I can set to run after system startup (it writes path to
> Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run)
Under HKLM oder HKCU? The path itself is of course irrelevant.
> but when normal user is logged in my application crashes.
Wi
* Tim Golden (Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:31:26 +0100)
>
> Certain commands, including "dir" and "copy" are not executables
> in their own right, but merely subcommands of cmd.exe.
Right, "internal commands".
> You've got two options in Python:
>
>os.system (r"cmd /c dir c:\windows")
os.system aut
* Michel Claveau - MVP (Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:33:20 +0200)
> On Win 7 64 bits:
> Command-Line
> CD \Python27
> dir C:\Windows\System32\SoundRecorder.exe:==> OK
> Python.exe
>
> >>> import os
> >>> os.system("dir C:\\Windows\\System32\\SoundRecorder.exe")
>
> ==> Do not found the file
* Roy Smith (Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:57:16 -0400)
> In article <94ph22frh...@mid.individual.net>,
> Neil Cerutti wrote:
> > On 2011-06-01, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > For some odd reason (perhaps because they are used a lot in
> > > Perl), this groups seems to have a great aversion to regular
> > >
* Thorsten Kampe (Sat, 28 May 2011 08:38:54 +0200)
> My experience is: unless the code is especially written with Python3
> compatability [...]
Oops, I meant "unless the code is specifically written with Python3
compatability in mind [...]"
Thorsten
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* Thomas Rachel (Sat, 28 May 2011 07:06:53 +0200)
> Am 27.05.2011 17:52 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
> > On Fri, 27 May 2011 09:40:53 -0500, harrismh777 wrote:
> >> 3.x is completely incompatible with 2.x (some call it a dialect,
> >> but that is a lie).
> >
> > "Completely incompatible"? A "lie"?
>
>
* suresh (Fri, 27 May 2011 14:25:52 -0700 (PDT))
> I want to execute the following command line stuff from inside python.
> $cd directory
> $./executable
>
> I tried the following but I get errors
> import subprocess
> subprocess.check_call('cd dir_name;./executable')
>
> Due to filename path is
Hi,
> type test.py
import sys
sys.tracebacklimit = 0
import doesnotexist
> python test.py
ImportError: No module named doesnotexist
> python3 test.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "test.py", line 4, in
import doesnotexist
ImportError: No module named doesnotexist
The 3.2 docum
* Steven D'Aprano (27 May 2011 03:07:30 GMT)
> Okay, I've stayed silent while people criticize me long enough. What
> exactly did I say that was impolite?
Nothing.
> John threw down a distinct challenge:
>
> if Python is really so much better than Python [sic]
> readability wise, why
* sal migondis (Thu, 26 May 2011 17:50:32 -0400)
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sal migondis
> wrote:
> > From: Thorsten Kampe
> > It's unnecessary bullshit buzzword bingo from nerds which adds or
> > helps or explains nothing. It's just that simple
* Charles (Thu, 26 May 2011 20:58:35 +1000)
> "Thorsten Kampe" wrote in message
> news:mpg.284834d227e3acd1989...@news.individual.de...
> >
> > If someone has learned what a directory or folder is, you don't have
> > to explain what "include sub-f
* Steven D'Aprano (26 May 2011 10:06:44 GMT)
>
> On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:48:07 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > But not to digress, the /real/ problem with commands or idioms like "rm
> > -r" is /not/ their choice of option names but that they explain these
* Steven D'Aprano (25 May 2011 22:58:21 GMT)
>
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 00:06:06 +0200, Rikishi42 wrote:
>
> > What I mean is: I'm certain that over the years I've had more than
one
> > person come to me and ask what 'Do you wish to delete this directory
> > recursively?' meant. BAut never have I b
* Steven D'Aprano (25 May 2011 21:59:58 GMT)
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:26:11 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>
> > Naming something in the terms of its implementation details (in this
> > case recursion) is a classical WTF.
>
> *If* that's true, it certainly d
* John Bokma (Wed, 25 May 2011 07:01:07 -0500)
> Thorsten Kampe writes:
> > * Chris Angelico (Wed, 25 May 2011 08:01:38 +1000)
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:39 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> >> > One of my favorite quotes (not sure if it was ab
* Chris Angelico (Wed, 25 May 2011 08:01:38 +1000)
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:39 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> > One of my favorite quotes (not sure if it was about Perl or APL) is
"I
> > refuse to use a programming language where the proponents of it stick
> > snippets under each other's nos
* Rikishi42 (Wed, 25 May 2011 00:06:06 +0200)
>
> On 2011-05-24, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >>> I think that is a patronizing remark that under-estimates the
> >>> intelligence of lay people and over-estimates the difficulty of
> >>> understanding recursion.
> >>
> >> Why would you presume this to
* Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn (Thu, 12 May 2011 22:22:20 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > I'm using optparse for a little Python script.
> >
> > 1. The output from "--help" is:
> > """
> > Usage: script.py
> >
&
Hi,
I'm using optparse for a little Python script.
1. The output from "--help" is:
"""
Usage: script.py
script.py does something
Options:
-h, --help show this help message and exit
"""
I would prefer to have the description before the usage, like...
"""
script.py does something
Usage: s
* Tim Chase (Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:42:24 -0500)
> On 07/26/10 21:26, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> > Please! Never export anything from your .bashrc unless you
> > really know what you're doing. Almost all exports should be
> > done in your .bash_profile
>
> Could you elaborate on your reasoning why (or wh
* Daniel Fetchinson (Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:54:03 -0700)
>
> > the reason I like strawberry perl is that I don't need to have admin right
> > to install it. i can just unzip it and start the game.
> > i am wondering if there is something similar in python community.
> >
> > any insight will be apprec
* MRAB (Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:54:00 +0100)
> Pascale Mourier wrote:
> > Martin v. Löwis a écrit :
> >
> >> Without having seen any details, I refuse to guess. Most likely, it is
> >> a user mistake.
> >
> > YES IT IS! Sorry for the inconvenience. I usually start from this
> > assumption. Yesterday
* John Machin (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:20:47 -0700 (PDT))
> On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r wrote:
> >
> > Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of
> > characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language. Why do we
> > need such complicated languages in this day and time. Many languages
* Chris Jones (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:22:00 -0400)
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:17PM EDT, Neil Hodgson wrote:
> > Sanskrit is mostly written in Devanagari these days which is also
> > useful for selling things to people who speak Hindi and other Indian
> > languages.
>
> Is the implication that th
* Neil Hodgson (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:17:14 GMT)
> Chris Jones:
>
> > I am not from these climes but all the same, I do find you tone of
> > voice rather offensive, considering that you are referring to a
> > culture that's about 3000 years older and 3000 richer than ours and
> > certainly deserves
* r (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:30:34 -0700 (PDT))
> We don't support a Python group in Chinese or French, so why this?
"We" do - you don't (or to be more realistic, you simply didn't know
it).
> Makes no sense to me really.
Like probably 99.9% of all things you hear, read, see and encounter
duri
* vsoler (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:01:46 -0700 (PDT))
> On Aug 29, 1:27 am, r wrote:
> > Have you tried saving the files as MYScriptName.py? notice the py
> > extension, very important ;)
>
> That was it!!!
>
> I see the colors again. Thank you.
I suggest you start using familiar technical terms. Li
* Rami Chowdhury (Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:44:41 -0700)
> > Further, does anything, except a printing device need to know the
> > encoding of a piece of "text"?
Python needs to know if you are processing the text.
> I may be wrong, but I believe that's part of the idea between separation
> of strin
* Dotan Cohen (Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:29:40 +0300)
> > Wikipedia has an API for computer access. See
> >
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API
> >
>
> Yes, I am aware of this as well. Does anyone know of a python class
> for easily interacting with it, or do I need to roll my own.
http://
* Michael Ströder (Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:25:03 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Michael Ströder (Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:26:09 +0200)
> >>>>> timeit.Timer("unicode('äöüÄÖÜß','utf-8')").timeit(1000)
> >> 17.2364449501037
* alex23 (Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:53:22 -0700 (PDT))
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > Bollocks. No one will even notice whether a code sequence runs 2.7 or
> > 5.7 seconds. That's completely artificial benchmarking.
>
> But that's not what you first claimed:
>
>
* Michael Ströder (Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:09:23 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Steven D'Aprano (08 Aug 2009 03:29:43 GMT)
> >> But why assume that the program takes 8 minutes to run? Perhaps it takes
> >> 8 seconds to run, and 6 seconds of that is the decoding.
* garabik-news-2005...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk (Fri, 7 Aug 2009
17:41:38 + (UTC))
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > If you increase the number of loops to one million or one billion or
> > whatever even the slightest completely negligible difference will
> > occur. The same
* alex23 (Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT))
> garabik-news-2005...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk wrote:
> > I am not sure I understood that. Must be my English :-)
>
> I just parsed it as "blah blah blah I won't admit I'm wrong" and
> didn't miss anything substantive.
Alex, there are still a numbe
* Steven D'Aprano (08 Aug 2009 03:29:43 GMT)
> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:13:07 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > One guy claims he has times between 2.7 and 5.7 seconds when
> > benchmarking more or less randomly generated "one million different
> > lines". That *
* Neil Hodgson (Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:32:55 GMT)
> Thorsten Kampe:
> > You cannot create "your own" buffer overflow in Python as you can in
C
> > and C++ but your code could still be vulnerable if the underlying Python
> > construct is written in C.
>
>
* Steven D'Aprano (06 Aug 2009 19:17:30 GMT)
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:05:52 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > > That is significant! So the winner is:
> > >
> > > unicode('äöüÄÖÜß','utf-8')
> >
> > Unless you are planning
* Michael Ströder (Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:26:09 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Michael Ströder (Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:43:09 +0200)
> > I don't think any measurable speed increase will be noticeable
> > between those two.
>
> Well, seems not to be true. Try yours
* Michael Ströder (Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:43:09 +0200)
> These both expressions are equivalent but which is faster or should be
> used for any reason?
>
> u = unicode(s,'utf-8')
>
> u = s.decode('utf-8') # looks nicer
"decode" was added in Python 2.2 for the sake of symmetry to encode().
It's esse
* Jizzai (Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:50:14 GMT)
> Is a _pure_ python program buffer overflow proof?
You cannot create "your own" buffer overflow in Python as you can in C
and C++ but your code could still be vulnerable if the underlying Python
construct is written in C. See [1] for instance.
Thorsten
* Carl Banks (Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:09:03 -0800 (PST))
> On Feb 28, 7:10 pm, Shane Geiger wrote:
> > >> The company does use Python on rare occasions. It all comes down to
> > >> the prejudices and habits of one of the programmers. His only argument
> > >> I can't counter -because I don't see the pr
* Isaac Gouy (Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:27:05 -0800 (PST))
> On Mar 1, 8:10 am, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> > Paul Rubin wrote:
> > > Steve Holden writes:
> > >> I'm not sure what you think the speed of Ruby has to do with Python.
> >
> > > In the real world, people care about the relative speed of programs.
* Tim Golden (Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:27:07 +)
> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
> > * Gabriel Genellina (Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:00:16 -0200)
> >> En Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:40:31 -0200, Thorsten Kampe
[...]
> >>> And I wonder why you would think the header contains Unicode cha
* Gabriel Genellina (Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:00:16 -0200)
> En Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:40:31 -0200, Thorsten Kampe
> escribió:
> > * Roy H. Han (Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:17:22 -0500)
> >> Thanks, RDM, for stating the right approach.
> >> Thanks, Steve, for teaching by examp
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