Re: Pip installs to unexpected place

2025-04-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
the path starts with > /usr/bin or whether it belongs to root. Tying into the system's package > manager doesn't look appealing to me (not to mention that it might be > unacceptably slow). Couldn't the system-installed scripts have a shebang like: #!/usr/bin/python3 -s -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Lengthy numbers

2024-12-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
't come up in string parsing if not using eval. Not a likely security issue but I am suddenly reminded of this dangerous snippet: x = [0]; x.extend(iter(x)) If you want to test it then make sure to save your work etc and be prepared to hard reset the computer. On this machine Ct

Re: Division-Bug in decimal and mpmath

2024-12-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
.0571428571428571428571428571428571428571428571428571428571429 SymPy uses mpmath for evalf but it allows doing exact calculations first and then evaluating the final exact expression to however many digits are desired at the end which means that you don't need to accumulate rounding errors before calling evalf. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Relatively prime integers in NumPy

2024-07-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
pose(a)) Out[10]: array([1, 2, 3]) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_common_divisor -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best use of "open" context manager

2024-07-06 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
that raises a particular exception type and only one place that catches it then it is usually going to be clear that you are catching the expected exception. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
t also you first need to build/install a BLAS library. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:11, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list > wrote: > > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a > > newer version of Python to solve this"

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
entirely reasonable to start by suggesting to use a newer version of Python until some reason is given for not doing that. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-30 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
shared. I am not going to reply to your other points except to say that if you want to influence anything then I expect that you would have more success with a different approach. To anyone else considering replying in this thread: please don't. I very much doubt that anything good will happen

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
precisely why moderation (including deleting posts such as yours) is needed to *prevent* a forum from turning into a toxic pit. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
pep-deferral Instead for understanding the wheel format the appropriate document is: https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/specifications/binary-distribution-format/ That document does not mention Install-Paths-To because it documents the standards as defined and accepted via the PEP proces

Re: on writing a number as 2^s * q, where q is odd

2023-12-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
thod. In principle this could use a large number of man>>=8 shifts which would potentially be quadratic in the bit size of man. In practice the probability of hitting the worst case is very low so the code is instead optimised for the expected common case of large man with few trailing zeros. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning tkinter

2023-05-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ributeError: module 'tkinter' has no attribute 'messagebox' > >>> > > Why is this? Do you have a file called tkinter.py in the current directory? -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: An "adapter", superset of an iterator

2023-05-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin
fusing though because the possible behaviour of enumerate(a) would be different depending on the type of a. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin
before making a release that is fully tested with it (even if you are testing the alphas etc in CI and making incremental fixes before 3.12 is released). The other option could be changing the downloads page so that it does not suggest 3.12.0 as the default option until it is clear that at least some baseline of widely used packages have uploaded compatible wheels. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Christoph Gohlke and compiled packages

2023-04-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin
certain extent it just forms part of the normal CI setup that a project like numpy would want to have anyway. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: built-in pow() vs. math.pow()

2023-03-31 Thread Oscar Benjamin
'expm1', 'fabs', 'factorial', 'floor', 'fmod', 'frexp', 'fsum', 'gamma', 'gcd', 'hypot', 'inf', 'isclose', 'isfinite', 'isinf', 'isnan', 'isqrt', 'ldexp', 'lgamma', 'log', 'log10', 'log1p', 'log2', 'modf', 'nan', 'perm', 'pi', 'pow', 'prod', 'radians', 'remainder', 'sin', 'sinh', 'sqrt', 'tan', 'tanh', 'tau', 'trunc'] -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: built-in pow() vs. math.pow()

2023-03-30 Thread Oscar Benjamin
at the built-in version can not do, and > if not, why is it even there? It is useful for when you want the pure floating point power which has an approximately fixed computational cost (unlike integer powers). Perhaps it would have been better if it was named fpow similar to fsum vs sum. -- Osca

Re: Debugging reason for python running unreasonably slow when adding numbers

2023-03-14 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ation in your code would be weights[input].sum() and would be much faster than the loop shown (the speed difference will be larger if you increase the size of the input array). -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.10 Fizzbuzz

2023-02-28 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 20:55, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > On 2/27/23 16:42, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 21:06, Ethan Furman wrote: > >> > >> On 2/27/23 12:20, rbowman wrote: > >> > >> > "By using Black, you agree to ced

Re: Python 3.10 Fizzbuzz

2023-02-27 Thread Oscar Benjamin
have also reviewed code where it is clear that the author has used black and their code came under case 2. In that case Black seems to produce awful things. What I can't understand is someone accepting the awful rewrite rather than just fixing the code. Treating Black almost like a linter make

Re: Precision Tail-off?

2023-02-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 11:19, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > On 2023-02-18 03:52:51 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 01:47, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 12:41, Greg Ewing via Python-list > > > > To avoid it you would need

Re: Precision Tail-off?

2023-02-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
your use case. IEEE standards do their best to make results reproducible across machines as well as limiting avoidable local errors so that global errors in larger operations are *less likely* to dominate the result. Their guarantees are only local though so as soon as you have more complicated calculations you need your own error analysis somehow. IEEE guarantees are in that case also useful for those who actually want to do a formal error analysis. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Precision Tail-off?

2023-02-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ion and eager evaluation are the only option. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Precision Tail-off?

2023-02-14 Thread Oscar Benjamin
a**(1/3)*(x - 1/3)*log(a) + O((x - 1/3)**2, (x, 1/3)) You can see that the leading relative error term from x being not quite equal to 1/3 is proportional to the log of the base. You should expect this difference to grow approximately linearly as you keep adding more zeros in the base. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ok, I feel stupid, but there must be a better way than this! (finding name of unique key in dict)

2023-01-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
_key": {'a':1, 'b':2}}, ...: { "some_other_key": {'a':3, 'b':4}} ...: ] In [40]: [{"value": k, **m} for l in L for k, m in l.items()] Out[40]: [{'value': 'some_key', 'a': 1, 'b': 2}, {'value': 'some_other_key', 'a': 3, 'b': 4}] -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Does one have to use curses to read single characters from keyboard?

2022-12-11 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ightly more than getch is readchar's readkey which also works for pressing non-character keys. There were times in the past where I might have used that if I'd known about it. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Parallel(?) programming with python

2022-08-08 Thread Oscar Benjamin
el *within the same program*. If you relax that constraint the problem becomes a lot simpler. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why isn't there a built-in product()?

2022-07-07 Thread Oscar Benjamin
here is math.prod: >>> from math import prod >>> prod([1, 2, 3, 4]) 24 https://docs.python.org/3/library/math.html#math.prod -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: C is it always faster than nump?

2022-02-25 Thread Oscar Benjamin
in creating NumPy (in the NumPy/SciPy split) was that it might be possible that NumPy could be merged into core Python. Unfortunately that didn't come to be. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: C is it always faster than nump?

2022-02-25 Thread Oscar Benjamin
tten in C but not as well optimised. This used to be the default for a pip install on Linux in pre-wheel times. Many operations in NumPy don't actually use BLAS/LAPACK and for those parts the heavy lifting is all done in NumPy's own C code. Lastly SciPy which is very often used together w

Re: Pypy with Cython

2022-02-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin
uot;time" command does). You can also use time.time() from Python for this. Profilers and timeit help to identify ways to speed up your code but should not be used as the way to assess the final impact of the changes you make to a long running program. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Call julia from Python: which package?

2021-12-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 23:11, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:01 AM Oscar Benjamin > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 22:40, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 9:24 AM Oscar Benjamin > > > wrote:

Re: Call julia from Python: which package?

2021-12-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 22:40, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 9:24 AM Oscar Benjamin > wrote: > > When I timed the result in Julia and in Python I found that the Julia > > code was slower than the Python code. Of course I don't know how to > > op

Re: Call julia from Python: which package?

2021-12-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
accurate for other situations but at least with Symbolics it's wildly out which makes me question any timings that I see reported by proselytisers of Julia. I don't want to knock Julia as a language or the Symbolics.jl library. I think it's a nice language and I'm sure it's well suited to certain applications. I'm also sure that many of the things I've mentioned above are being worked on and will improve over time. However the idea that Julia is faster than Python in general should not go unquestioned. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: sum() vs. loop

2021-10-13 Thread Oscar Benjamin
elements being multiplied and summed have pure-Python __add__/__mul__ methods or the container has a pure Python __iter__/__next__ then any of those methods will typically dominate the runtime over any of the overheads considered here. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Different "look and feel" of some built-in functions

2021-10-02 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:11, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:56 AM Oscar Benjamin >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 00:37, Greg Ewing >> > wrote: >> >

Re: Different "look and feel" of some built-in functions

2021-09-25 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:16, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM Oscar Benjamin > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:56 AM Oscar Benjamin > >> wrote: >

Re: Different "look and feel" of some built-in functions

2021-09-24 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:56 AM Oscar Benjamin > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 00:37, Greg Ewing > > wrote: > > > I suppose they could be fiddled somehow to make it possible, but > > &g

Re: Different "look and feel" of some built-in functions

2021-09-24 Thread Oscar Benjamin
with > sum(). > A separate union function would be good. Even in a situation where all inputs are assured to be sets the set.union method fails the base case: >>> sets = [] >>> set.union(*sets) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError:

Re: on floating-point numbers

2021-09-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ill be the exact value that fsum will return. In other > words, its accuracy is exactly as good as the final result can be. It's as good as it can be if the result must fit into a single float. Actually the algorithm itself maintains an exact result for the sum internally using a list of floats whose exact sum is the same as that of the input list. In essence it compresses a large list of floats to a small list of say 2 or 3 floats while preserving the exact value of the sum. Unfortunately fsum does not give any way to access the internal exact list so using fsum repeatedly suffers the same problems as plain float arithmetic e.g.: >>> x = 10**20 >>> fsum([fsum([1, x]), -x]) 0.0 -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How Do I Get A Bug In Multiprocessing Fixed?

2021-06-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
. If there is a bug in multiprocessing then the issue should be clearer about what it is or why it should be considered a bug. Which function is documented as doing something that apparently does not work in this case? Why should it be expected to work? -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best practices for software architecture in Python

2021-02-11 Thread Oscar
In article , Henning Follmann wrote: >>>Looks like you (the project leader?) needs training, not the >>>software engineers. >>> >>>"Making Things Happen" by Scott Berkun >> >> This looks like a very interesting book to add to my reading list, but >> how do you think it will help the OP with his/

Re: Best practices for software architecture in Python

2021-02-11 Thread Oscar
In article , Henning Follmann wrote: >On 2021-02-10, Python wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If you had to train engineers who are used to write >> Python scripts for image processing, data format conversion, >> etc. (so they know most the basics of Python types and >> programming structures except advance

Re: Returning from a multiple stacked call at once

2020-12-13 Thread Oscar
In article <5fd4f4b5$0$8928$426a7...@news.free.fr>, ast wrote: >Le 12/12/2020 à 17:10, Oscar a écrit : >> In article <5fd465b5$0$8956$426a7...@news.free.fr>, ast wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> In case a function recursively calls itself many times,

Re: To check if number is in range(x,y)

2020-12-12 Thread Oscar
In article , Bischoop wrote: > >I need to check if input number is 1-5. Whatever I try it's not working. >Here are my aproaches to the problem: https://bpa.st/H62A > >What I'm doing wrong and how I should do it? You need to learn about types. ;-) Input returns a string. That string is not in th

Re: Returning from a multiple stacked call at once

2020-12-12 Thread Oscar
In article <5fd465b5$0$8956$426a7...@news.free.fr>, ast wrote: >Hello > >In case a function recursively calls itself many times, >is there a way to return a data immediately without >unstacking all functions ? If you are referring to your "are you ok?" problem, please read up on recursion and wh

Re: To check if number is in range(x,y)

2020-12-12 Thread Oscar
In article , Bischoop wrote: >I've also convert the choice to int() but doesn't help. Oh.. did not read this yet. How did you do this? In both places after the input or during the comparison? If so, in which version? Only the first version would work. The other two are just plain wrong. -- [J|O

Re: True is True / False is False?

2020-07-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
tors can return instances of Relational. When they can be evaluated those will give sympy's Booleans rather than bool. In [6]: import sympy as sym In [7]: x = sym.Symbol('x') In [8]: x > 0 Out[8]: x > 0 In [9]: type(_) Out[9]: sympy.core.relational.StrictGreaterThan I

Re: A Python installation help doc much more friendly to newcomers? [Was Re: help]

2020-07-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
er a few examples and some familiarity it could be time to suggest installing locally. That should be with a no nonsense explanation that makes no reference to terminals, PATH, etc because those are just intimidating distractions to a novice at that point in time. The sympy docs have a lo

Re: Help with installation please

2020-05-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
where once Python is installed it can be run by typing "python" in whatever terminal you want. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: To apply pca for a large csv

2020-04-14 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ife much easier for yourself by choosing a subset of the columns that you are likely to be interested in and reducing the size of your dataset before you begin. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: on sorting things

2019-12-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
; imagines it could make porting some code in or out of Python trickier Python 2 used comparison functions but Python 3 uses key functions. There is a helper called cmp_to_key that can convert a comparison function into a key function: https://docs.python.org/3.8/library/functools.html#functools.c

Re: OOP - how to abort an __init__ when the initialisation code fails ?

2019-11-06 Thread Oscar Benjamin
if the exception is raised in your code then it should be a dedicated exception class. If that exception is only raised in one specific place I see nothing wrong with wrapping all of your code in a try/except that catches that one exception: when the exception is caught you know exactly why and can handle appropriately. Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: __init__ is not invoked

2019-09-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
t as well as of type: >>> isinstance(object, object) True >>> isinstance(object, type) True >>> isinstance(type, object) True >>> isinstance(type, type) True >>> issubclass(object, type) False >>> issubclass(type, object) True >>> type.mro(type) [, ] >>> type.mro(object) [] >>> type(object) >>> type(type) -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: __init__ is not invoked

2019-09-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
t;" Output: $ python tmp.py A.__init__ a C.__init__ c D.__init__ foo D.__init__ d So B.__init__ is never called and D.__init__ is called twice. I wonder if there is a sensible way of organising this. Certainly I've always taken the approach that you either use __new__ or __init__ and don't mix them up. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: itertools product(infinite iterator) hangs

2019-09-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 07:22, ast wrote: > > Le 14/09/2019 à 04:26, Oscar Benjamin a écrit : > > > > What am I missing? > > here is a pseudo code for product: > > def product(*args, repeat=1): > # product('ABCD', 'xy') --> Ax Ay Bx By

Re: itertools product(infinite iterator) hangs

2019-09-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 03:26, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > I've been staring at this for a little while: > > from itertools import product > > class Naturals: > def __iter__(self): > i = 1 > while True: > yield i > i

itertools product(infinite iterator) hangs

2019-09-13 Thread Oscar Benjamin
product hangs but I can't see why. I would expect that since I'm not iterating over the product it would just call iter(N) but clearly not since iter(N) returns a generator instantly where as product(N) hangs. What am I missing? Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python package management confusion

2019-01-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
so: https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python package management confusion

2019-01-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ot being synchronised. Pip depends on setuptools and cannot be used without it. Both setuptools and pip are maintained under the PyPA. They are intended to work together. in fact if your setup.py uses distutils instead of setuptools then pip will "inject" setuptools into it to ensure that

Re: Mask two images with python

2018-12-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 09:32, Umar Yusuf wrote: > > On Wednesday, 19 December 2018 19:22:51 UTC+1, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 05:42, Umar Yusuf wrote: > > > > > > Hello there, > > > How do I supper impose an image design on a transpar

Re: Mask two images with python

2018-12-19 Thread Oscar Benjamin
stackoverflow.com/questions/53791510/python-opencv-mask-and-glow I don't understand what you're trying to do. Can you show example input and desired output with example numbers? E.g.: mask = [ [0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 1, 1, 0], ... ] image = [ [12, 32, 45, 56], ... expected_output = ? -- Osca

Re: clusters of numbers

2018-12-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
but when you say k-clusters I assume you mean k-means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-means_clustering Most discussions of k-means will assume that you are working in at least 2 dimensions but in your case your data is 1D so bear that in mind when comparing. It's not hard to implement k-means

Re: polar coordinates?

2018-12-09 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ix_scale is the number of pixels that corresponds to a distance of 1 in your polar coordinate system. You might choose this parameter based on the height/width in pixels of the window. Depending on what you're doing you may need to convert xq_p and yq_p to int rounding in some way. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Import module from file path

2018-12-05 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 07:57, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > > Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > > > I'm looking to import a module given a string representing the path to > > the .py file defining the module. > > I am not aware of a clean way. I ha

Import module from file path

2018-12-04 Thread Oscar Benjamin
n the file '/home/oscar/work/project/a/b/c/stuff.py'. Given that a.b.c.stuff is importable and I have the (relative or absolute) path of stuff.py as a string I would like to import that module. I want this to work in 2.7 and 3.4+ and have come up with the following which works for valid

Re: Need to find the centroid of a circular camera image

2018-09-23 Thread Oscar Benjamin
fair at? This is easy enough to in OpenCV. The code at the top of this page does what you want: https://docs.opencv.org/3.4.2/dd/d49/tutorial_py_contour_features.html -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why emumerated list is empty on 2nd round of print?

2018-09-07 Thread Oscar Benjamin
how it is designed): class enumerate: def __init__(self, iterable, start=0): self.iterable = iterable self.start = start def __iter__(self): count = self.start for val in self.iterable: # Implicitly calls iter on iterable again yield count, val count += 1 -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Debug script under pdb, how to avoid a bunch of errors caused by the exit()?

2018-09-06 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ting with exit(). If I had written your script then it might look something like: def main(): password = 'bad' if password == 'bad': print('bad password') return # <-- Not exit() else: print('good password')

Re: Question about floating point

2018-08-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin
e it is 'safe enough' for their purposes, so I don't > want to overstate my case. Are there edge cases where that rounding method > could fail? That rounding method is not suitable. As mentioned by others you should at least use round() if working with floats. Here&

Re: Writing a program to illustrate a fractal

2018-08-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
plotlib.org/users/pyplot_tutorial.html -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Generating a specific list of intsgers

2018-08-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 20:32, Musatov wrote: > > On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 2:14:29 PM UTC-5, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:40:00 -0700, tomusatov wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > &g

Re: Generating a specific list of intsgers

2018-08-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 20:27, Musatov wrote: > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 2:18:09 PM UTC-5, Musatov wrote: > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 1:52:17 PM UTC-5, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:40:00 -

Re: Generating a specific list of intsgers

2018-08-25 Thread Oscar Benjamin
, 2, 0, 2, 1, 0, 3, 1, 0, 1, 2, 0, 1, 1, 0, 5, 2, 0, 1, 1, 0, > 2, 1, 0, 3, 1, 0, 1 Looks like it's zero for any multiple of 3 (apart from 3 itself). This makes sense since if n is a equal to b*3 for some integer b then n*2^k - 3 = b*3*2^k - 3 = (b*2^k - 1)*3 which can only be prime if b*2^k - 1 = 1 which can only be true if b=1 (since k>0) implying that n=3. So for any *other* multiple of 3 you must necessarily have a(n) = 0. The above means that you can handle all multiples of 3 but how do you know that you won't hit an infinite loop when n is not a multiple of 3? For that you need the converse of the above: whenever n is not a multiple of 3 then a(n) != 0 I haven't put much thought into it but that might be easy to prove. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Partitioning a list

2018-08-23 Thread Oscar Benjamin
r system you can then consider all the permutations of mapping your students onto the elements of the system - there will be N! of those but possibly with a k! duplication so maybe there's an efficient way to only enumerate the N!/k! possibilities. Hopefully N isn't too large... -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dealing with errors in interactive subprocess running python interpreter that freeze the process

2018-08-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin
it's not obvious from your snippet of code what you're >> trying to achieve). > > To send and receive text from a subprocess..even when there are exceptions. You can do this without threads on Linux using select (or similar): https://docs.python.org/3.7/library/select.html#select.select -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Obtain the raw line of text read by CSVDictReader when reporting errors?

2016-09-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
eld lineno, last_line[0], row infile = ['a,b,c', '1,2,3', '4,5,6'] for lineno, line, row in csv_with_line(infile): print(lineno, line, row) -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why doesn't my finaliser run here?

2016-09-04 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ssfully > self definitely exists: <__main__.Eggs object at 0xb7bf21ec> > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > File "", line 8, in __init__ > Exception Maybe the Exception traceback holds a reference to the object. Also try the example outside of interactive mode since that can hold references. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Spot the bug: getoptquestion.py

2016-07-07 Thread Oscar
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: >Yes, it's a third-party dependency. (Sorry, should have mentioned >that.) You're welcome to consider that to be too much risk and/or >hassle to be worth improving on getopt, but personally, I *really* >like the simplicity of just writing docstrings that still r

Re: Spot the bug: getoptquestion.py

2016-07-07 Thread Oscar
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: >On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro > wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:42:42 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> The getopt module is designed to match the C getopt function, which I've >>> never used; for my command-line parsing, I

Re: Spot the bug: getoptquestion.py

2016-07-04 Thread Oscar
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: >On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Oscar wrote: >> Is this: >> >> a) a bug in getopt.getopt >> b) a bug in my code >> c) a great way to keep me busy for a while >> d) all of the above? >> >> >> #!/u

Spot the bug: getoptquestion.py

2016-07-04 Thread Oscar
Is this: a) a bug in getopt.getopt b) a bug in my code c) a great way to keep me busy for a while d) all of the above? #!/usr/bin/python from __future__ import print_function from getopt import getopt, GetoptError import sys try: opts, args = getopt(sys.argv[1:], 'b', ['bug ']) except Ge

Re: Unexpected NANs in complex arithmetic

2016-06-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
. using (2) for complex numbers with zero imaginary part) would probably lead to the results Steve expects. I'm not really sure what the gain is though since we can't really do robust algebra with infinities anyway. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python on Windows with linux environment

2016-06-02 Thread Oscar Benjamin
hink that you need Linux to run this code? -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: setrecursionlimit

2016-05-19 Thread Oscar Benjamin
e-specific assumptions to be able to use that information. My understanding (although I have no direct experience here) is that Stackless Python is an alternative implementation that gets around all of these problems by avoiding the recursion altogether. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Optimizing Memory Allocation in a Simple, but Long Function

2016-04-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ec = 2*prec + 1 N = Decimal(10)**(prec) eapprox = (1 + 1/N)**N ctx.prec = prec return +eapprox print(e(50)) Alternatively you can just use Decimal(1).exp(). > How does the math > module calculate the vale of e? https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/tip/Include/p

Re: Optimizing Memory Allocation in a Simple, but Long Function

2016-04-25 Thread Oscar Benjamin
of 1e-4 we need N = 1/(2*1e-4) = 1e4/2 = 5e3 = 5000. >>> import math >>> N = 5000 >>> error = math.e - (1 + 1.0/N)**N >>> relative_error = error / math.e >>> relative_error 9.998167027596845e-05 Which is approximately 1e-4 as required. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Optimizing Memory Allocation in a Simple, but Long Function

2016-04-24 Thread Oscar Benjamin
omputing the above numbers but in a slower way that also has more potential for rounding error. The error here is 1e-13 for the last numbers in this sequence. But N=2**40 so your Euler method would need approximately 10**12 iterations in your inner loop to get the same result. That's going to be slow even if you don't use a quadratic algorithm. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Detecting repeated subsequences of identical items

2016-04-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 21 April 2016 at 15:12, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Oscar Benjamin > wrote: >> In the recursive stack overflow case what you'll usually have is >> >> 1) A few frames leading up to the start of recursion >> 2) A long repeti

Re: Detecting repeated subsequences of identical items

2016-04-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 21 April 2016 at 13:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 06:53 pm, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > >> On 21 April 2016 at 04:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> I want to group repeated items in a sequence. For example, I can group >>> repeated se

Re: Detecting repeated subsequences of identical items

2016-04-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
that those are for a sequence made as x[n+1] = f(x[n]) for some function f. In your case that's just the function that gets the next frame up/down in the call stack. -- Oscar -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Failed install scipy lib

2016-04-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 20 April 2016 at 12:30, wrote: > On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 2:09:10 PM UTC+3, liran@gmail.com wrote: >> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 9:21:42 PM UTC+3, eryk sun wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Oscar Benjamin >> > wrote: >>

Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated

2016-04-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
ht be disabled, missing, or > out of date." > > Yeah, thanks guys. Really helpful. Having a flash-enabled browser is a lower barrier to entry for most people in the world than having a code editor and (being able to use) say a terminal to run your code. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated

2016-04-20 Thread Oscar Benjamin
if n % 2: >> n = (n + 1) * 3 / 2 >> else: >> n = n * 2 + 3 >> >> with stripes of colour, with the entire first column of spaces all >> tied to the "def", and then the next block of four tied to the &q

Re: Failed install scipy lib

2016-04-19 Thread Oscar Benjamin
all scipy. I'm not on Windows to check myself though I'm afraid. -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python2.7 win64 --- cannot install the package of scipy

2016-04-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
t; result shows that scipy-0.17.0-cp27-none-win_amd64.whl is not a supported > wheel on this platform. That should be the right wheel if you have 64-bit Python 2.7 on Windows. Note that it's possible you have 32 bit Python even if the computer and Windows is 64-bit. It's also p

Re: scipy install error,need help its important

2016-04-18 Thread Oscar Benjamin
re install anaconda > ?how can anaconda packages to run with old idle ?because i have to many > packages in old python. Just install numpy and scipy from here (as already mentioned earlier in the thread): http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ -- Oscar -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: help install numpy and scipy in window 7 and 3.5.0 shell

2016-04-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
owever... Numpy now has binary (pre-complied) wheels for Windows, OSX and Linux on PyPI so you should be able to just install it with: $ pip install numpy This is much easier than what you're currently attempting. I don't know if the same works for scipy now or not. Here on Linux I

Re: sum accuracy

2016-04-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 15 April 2016 at 11:10, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Oscar Benjamin writes: > >> On 15 April 2016 at 10:24, Robin Becker wrote: > >>> yes indeed summation is hard :( >> >> Not with Fraction it isn't: >> >> from fractions import Fraction >

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