Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Well you can use your Browser, since JavaScript understand post and pre increment: > x = 5 5 > x ++ 5 > x = 5 5 > ++ x 6 So we have x ++ equals in Python: x + = 1 x - 1 And ++ x equals in Python: x += 1 x But I don't know how to combine an assignment and an expression into on

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
The wiked brain of ChatGPT gives me a lead: PEP 659 Storing data caches before the bytecode. Maybe its an effect of constant folding and constant pooling by the compiler? Mild Shock schrieb: For example this article: https://www.codementor.io/@arpitbhayani/python-caches-integers-16jih595jk

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
For example this article: https://www.codementor.io/@arpitbhayani/python-caches-integers-16jih595jk about the integer singletons claims: >>> x, y = 257, 257 >>> id(x) == id(y) False But on Windows my recent CPython doesn't do that: Python 3.14.0a1 (tags/v3.14.0a1:8cdaca8, Oct 15 2024, 20:08

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Hi, In Java its possible to work this way with the Integer datatype, just call Integer.valueOf(). I am not sure whether CPython does the same. Because it shows me the same behaviour for small integers that are more than only in the range -128 to 128. You can try yourself: Python 3.14.0a1 (tags

Re: Two aces up Python's sleeve

2024-11-08 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
This only works for small integers. I guess this is because tagged pointers are used nowadays ? For large integers, also known as bigint, it doesn't work: Python 3.13.0a1 (tags/v3.13.0a1:ad056f0, Oct 13 2023, 09:51:17) >>> x, y = 5, 4+1 >>> id(x) == id(y) True >>> x, y = 10**200, 10**199*10 >>

Re: Python told me a Joke

2024-09-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
You can try: >>> 1,2 == 2,2 (1, True, 2) Its the same as: >>> 1, (2 == 2), 2 (1, True, 2) Hope this helps! Alan Bawden schrieb: Python 3.10.5 (v3.10.5:f37715, Jul 10 2022, 00:26:17) [GCC 4.9.2] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Funny source code tells me IOCP is used; proactor is only implemented on Windows with IOCP. https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.12/Lib/asyncio/proactor_events.py But maybe the focus is more on networking than file system. But it has sock_sendfile() that might avoid copying data to usersp

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
The docu tells me: Windows loop.add_reader() and loop.add_writer() only accept socket handles (e.g. pipe file descriptors are not supported). https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-platforms.html Alternatives are aiofiles and anyio and maybe more, but not sure whether they span all platforms,

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
And whats the roadmap for an asyncified module loader, is this on the radar of Python? Mild Shock schrieb: I am still waiting for async files in the style of nodejs that works on windows and is bundled with the main python distribution. I am not very  fond on doing something like adding list

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
I am still waiting for async files in the style of nodejs that works on windows and is bundled with the main python distribution. I am not very fond on doing something like adding listeners to a file descriptor, in nodejs async files are based on callbacks not on listeners. Whats the roadmap

Re: Await expressions

2024-01-27 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Maybe consult: PEP 492 – Coroutines with async and await syntax Created: 09-Apr-2015 Python-Version: 3.5 https://peps.python.org/pep-0492/ Mild Shock schrieb: We say that an object is an awaitable object if it can be used in an await expression. Many asyncio APIs are designed to accept awaita

Re: Await expressions

2024-01-27 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
We say that an object is an awaitable object if it can be used in an await expression. Many asyncio APIs are designed to accept awaitables. There are three main types of awaitable objects: coroutines, Tasks, and Futures. Stefan Ram schrieb: In "The Python Language Reference, Release 3.13