Re: multi-core software

2009-06-06 Thread John Thingstad
iables and declarative concurrency' and onward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(programming_language) ----- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Complexity And Tedium of Software Engineering

2009-06-05 Thread John Thingstad
ages Erlang and Oz to get an idea. ----- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-30 Thread John Thingstad
the various Perl texts, as well as posts here. Of course, a whole lot better his terminology than no language at all! David Perl is solidly based in the UNIX world on awk, sed, bash and C. I don't like the style, but many do. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-08 Thread John Thingstad
. is a multiple-value-bind 2. is a destructuring-bind 3. is a let http://common-lisp.net/project/metabang-bind/ To me this is a example of where the ANSI group could have spent more time on naming. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python's doc problems: sort

2008-04-30 Thread John Thingstad
| ooO Ooo Doesn't copying Rainer Joswig's troll warning constitute a copywright infrigment :) -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a new language

2007-12-29 Thread John Thingstad
> -- > Arnaud > More precisely defvar, defparameter, progv and (declare (special var)) create variables with dynamic scope. let and let* do as you said use a lexical scope. (unless you use a declare as above) -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a new language

2007-12-29 Thread John Thingstad
any Selenium platform. System functional testing. Create regression tests to verify application functionality and user acceptance. There is also a Lisp interface cl-selesium though I can't find the code on the net now. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:25:19 +0200, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > > Xah Lee, 20021124 > > In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful > thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some > clarifications. > > American

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-17 Thread John Thingstad
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:19:49 +0100, > wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> So don't (poke (random) value). That would be obvious to anyone >> capable of writing a device driver in C or Lisp or Oberon or > > Similarly in C programs, don't do > > *random = 0; > > Avoiding that is easier sai

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-16 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:19:40 +0100, > wrote: > > Incorrect, I believe. The above is like saying Lisp's lack of > optional manual storage allocation and machine pointers makes Lisp > less powerful. It's in fact the absence of those features that lets > garbage collection work reliably. Reliable

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-13 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:39:44 +0100, Timofei Shatrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12 Dec 2006 18:03:49 -0800, "Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tried to > confuse > everyone with this message: > >> There are a lot of people that use Wikipedia. I think some of them >> might want to learn to program.

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-13 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:13:26 +0100, Paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not even close. > > In my example above: > for a in y: >dosomethingwith(a) > y could be a lot of built-in types such as an array, list, tuple, dict, > file, or set. > - Paddy. > I was refering to the recursive Lisp exampl

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-12 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:58 +0100, Paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Uhl wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> > Speaking as somebody who programmed in FORTH for a while, that doesn't >> > impress me much. Prefix/postfix notation is, generally speaking, more >>

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:29:43 +0100, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh my god! Lisp can echo STRINGS to the interpreter Why didn't > somebody somebody tell me that That *completely* changes my mind > about > the language! > > I'm especially impressed that it knew I wan

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:49:59 +0100, mystilleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Donkeys have wings. > ? You attitude towards CLOS is obviously insane. >> In the windows world the best way to access system libraries are >> via .NET. Thus each language inventing it's own libraries is quickly >> be

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:04:04 +0100, mystilleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Atkins wrote: >> Are any of these not subjective? > > Objectivity is in the eye of the beholder. > >> Lisp is much more than a functional language. > > Maybe so. But I've only ever appreciated its functional aspects

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-25 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:11:22 +0200, Anton van Straaten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this context, the term "latently-typed language" refers to the language that a programmer experiences, not to the subset of that language which is all that we're typical

Re: Software Needs Philosophers

2006-05-23 Thread John Thingstad
On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:58:12 +0200, John D Salt wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > [Snips] >> Wrong. We live in a paradise of ideas and possibilities well beyond the >> wildest dreams of only 20 years ago. > > What exciting new ideas exist in software that are bot

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: accountability & lying thru the teeth

2006-02-14 Thread John Thingstad
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:33:49 +0100, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i longed for such a accountable predictions for a long time. Usually, > some fucking fart will do predictions, but the problem is that it's not > accountable. So, lots fuckhead morons in the IT industry will shout > ... Fin

Re: write a loopin one line; process file paths

2005-10-24 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:48:01 +0200, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks a lot for various notes. Bonono? > > I will have to look at the itertools module. Just went to the doc > http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.1/lib/module-itertools.html > looks interesting. > >> But I believe Python is desig

huygens lands on titan

2005-01-14 Thread John Thingstad
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Re: Trying to understand a little python

2004-12-07 Thread John Thingstad
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:07:42 +1000, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: McCarty, Greg wrote: Ok, I'm new to python, and I'm trying to come to grips with a few things. Got lots of years of experience with Java and asp/aspx, etc. Trying to relate Python's behavior to what I already know.