Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best choice as

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
Mike Meyer wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These last two points kind of diverge from the point, no? What I mean is that we want to present the argument of why Python is the best choice as THE built-in programming language for the revolutionary uuu operating system.

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
pythonUser_07 wrote: Some quick thoughts. 1- Python is not new relatively speaking. Quite true, good point. 2)- Python is a natural language for learning basic scripting, but can carry you through to object oriented program. 3)- Knowing python, instantly gets you access to jython. I've found jy

[Fwd: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages] <-- Why Python

2005-02-17 Thread Arich Chanachai
I consider this to be a good question. I just started to learn Python and I like it. I don't know about Lisp however... The problem, IMHO, in creating a new language is that we are losing code reusability... we will be able to port python applications very easily... I don't have a clear idea on

Re: Big development in the GUI realm

2005-02-12 Thread Arich Chanachai
Robert Kern wrote: Arich Chanachai wrote: > I have never seen a commercial license for a library which stated that you did not have to pay the license fee until you have made that much money in sales from the software which you created, in part, from that library. I would be in favor of suc

Re: Big development in the GUI realm

2005-02-12 Thread Arich Chanachai
Jorge Luiz Godoy Filho wrote: Max M wrote: GPL is not suitable for all kinds of software. It's nice if you are sharing code with others, but if you are developing something like a desktop application that you want to sell for money, using the GPL is a bad idea. If you're earning money, why

Re: Python.org, Website of Satan

2005-01-13 Thread Arich Chanachai
Jane wrote: "Lucas Raab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jane wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] python.org = 194.109.137.226 194 + 109 + 137 + 226 = 666 What is this website with such a demonic name and IP address? What ev

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-10 Thread Arich Chanachai
Arich Chanachai wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: "Roose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What I really wonder about is the possibility of integrating Mono with a kernel and building upward (the "shell" if you will) using IronPython. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-09 Thread Arich Chanachai
Paul Rubin wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yes, compiled Lisp. There are Python compilers too.\ ??? You mean like Pyrex or some such? I wouldn't exactly call these "Python" compilers, as that kind of obscures some underlying (critical) f

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-09 Thread Arich Chanachai
Paul Rubin wrote: "Roose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... Upon reading back in the thread I see that you mean compiled Lisp, no? I was thinking that there would be a Lisp interpreter in a kernel, which afaik doesn't exist. Yes, compiled Lisp. There are Python compilers too.\ ??? You m

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-09 Thread Arich Chanachai
Paul Rubin wrote: ... OK, then give me an example of Lisp OS that runs on a PC. I would like to install it on my PC tomorrow. Or maybe my Mac. That was your whole point, originally, that since it could be done in Lisp, why not Python? Huh? That's a non-sequitur, nothing prevents you from r

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-09 Thread Arich Chanachai
Roose wrote: It's a difference of degree, but an important difference. I haven't looked at Linux or Windows NT source, but my guess is the assembly used is just small functions for accessing special CPU instructions for atomicity, context switching, and the like. I KNOW they don't have huge a

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-09 Thread Arich Chanachai
John Roth wrote: "jtauber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My experiment, Cleese, was making progress before I got distracted by other things. I should probably get back to it at some stage. As my ex-wife was fond of saying, "I wish you'd have told me it was impo

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-08 Thread Arich Chanachai
Peter Hansen wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: When Unix was first written, people thought implementing an OS in C was ludicrous. Everyone knew OS's had to be written in assembler. Actually, when Unix was first written that belief was entirely correct, and OSes *did* have to be written in assembler. *nods

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-07 Thread Arich Chanachai
Paul Rubin wrote: Arich Chanachai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: But I thought Python was an all-purpose language. After all, OS's have been written in Lisp before too. Pure Lisp? Or a Lisp/C/Asm combo? Lisp has a compiled flavor

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-07 Thread Arich Chanachai
Paul Rubin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hobbs) writes: The problem when using Python instead of C for OS development is that C was *specifically designed* to create an OS, while Python was designed for completely different purposes. If you want to write an OS, it would be wise to use a lang

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-06 Thread Arich Chanachai
Roose wrote: What exactly do you mean by an operating system? If you don't want to program in C/C++ then you're going to have a hard time. I don't want to be too discouraging, but with that attitude I doubt you would get very far. Indeed, this is very true. It sounds like you want to make more o

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-06 Thread Arich Chanachai
Carl Banks wrote: Arich Chanachai wrote: But then again, if you don't like C++, you probably won't like Java. They can be very different languages, but in my experience, the reasons why one does not like C++ is usually due to a qu

Re: Python Operating System???

2005-01-06 Thread Arich Chanachai
David Brown wrote: Hello. I recently came across a free operating system called Unununium (or something like that) and it was developed in Python and Assembly. Now, I have been looking for a way to make an operating system for a long long time and the only possibilities I could find were C++ and as

Re: project

2005-01-06 Thread Arich Chanachai
jerry wise wrote: Thank you for responding. I have responded to Jeff several times, but he has not sent me anything back. I have read several of the pymedia docs, but truthfully they mean nothing to me because like I said, I have no experience in computer programming. You told me to look at

Re: project

2005-01-05 Thread Arich Chanachai
jerry wise wrote: Please help me out! Your solution seems doable pretty easily, but I have very little experience in this so I need some help. At the very least respond, because I'm getting kind of desperate. Thank you so much. "I'm getting kind of desperate", no kidding. Firstly, did you ask