On mer., Apr 3, 2019 at 6:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 3:55 AM Alexey Muranov
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I clarified what i meant by an assignment, and i believe it to be a
usual meaning.
1. `def` is not an assignment, there is no left-hand side or
right-hand side. I
On mar., Apr 2, 2019 at 6:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:43 AM Alexey Muranov
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> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Alexey Muranov gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I only see a superficial analogy with `super()`, but perhaps it
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Alexey Muranov gmail.com>
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> I only see a superficial analogy with `super()`, but perhaps it is
> because you did not give much details of you suggestion.
No, it's because the analogy was not meant to be anything more than
superficial. Bo
On mar., Apr 2, 2019 at 4:31 AM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
Re: ">> Neither i like how a function magically turns into a
generator if the
keyword `yield` appears somewhere within its definition.
I agree, there should have been a required syntactic element on the
"def"
line as we
On lun., avril 1, 2019 at 6:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:09 PM Alexey Muranov
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On dim., Mar 31, 2019 at 6:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org
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> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 5:32 AM Alexey Muranov
>
> wrote:
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>>
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On dim., Mar 31, 2019 at 6:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 5:32 AM Alexey Muranov
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On ven., Mar 29, 2019 at 4:51 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org
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> There could perhaps be a special case for lambda expressions such
> that
On ven., Mar 29, 2019 at 4:51 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:30 PM Alexey Muranov
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On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM, Terry Reedy
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> Throwing the name away is foolish. Testing functions is another
> situation in which fu
On ven., Mar 29, 2019 at 4:51 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:30 PM Alexey Muranov
wrote:
On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM, Terry Reedy
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> Throwing the name away is foolish. Testing functions is another
> situation in which function nam
On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
So documentation of that syntax would 100% be required
Regarding documentation, i believe there would be 3 line to add:
() =
is a syntactic sugar for
= lambda :
Alexey.
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On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/28/2019 12:29 PM, Alexey Muranov wrote:
On jeu., Mar 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org
wrote:
So my opinion is that lambda expressions should only be used within
larger expressions and never directly bound.
It
On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
But i see your point about never assigning lambdas directly, it
makes sense. But sometimes i do assign short lambdas directly to
variable.
Is the convenience and (very low) frequency of applicability worth
the inconvenience of confu
On jeu., mars 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On 2019-03-27 10:42 a.m., Paul Moore wrote:
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 12:27, Alexey Muranov
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On mer., mars 27, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Paul Moore
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 08:25, Alexey Muranov
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Whey
On jeu., Mar 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
So my opinion is that lambda expressions should only be used within
larger expressions and never directly bound.
It would be however more convenient to be able to write instead just
f(x) = x*x
Given my view above,
On mer., Mar 27, 2019 at 5:00 PM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
On 27/03/19 09:21, Alexey Muranov wrote:
Whey you need a simple function in Python, there is a choice
between a
normal function declaration and an assignment of a anonymous
function
(defined by a lambda-expression) to
On mer., mars 27, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Paul Moore
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 08:25, Alexey Muranov
wrote:
Whey you need a simple function in Python, there is a choice
between a
normal function declaration and an assignment of a anonymous
function
(defined by a lambda-expression) to
Whey you need a simple function in Python, there is a choice between a
normal function declaration and an assignment of a anonymous function
(defined by a lambda-expression) to a variable:
def f(x): return x*x
or
f = lambda x: x*x
It would be however more convenient to be able to write
e, probably the solution with
def f(a):
_a = a
class D:
a = _a
return D
is good enough, if Python does not allow to refer "simultaneously" to
variables from different scopes if they have the same name.
Alexey.
On Tue, 8 May, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Alexe
To be more exact, i do see a few workarounds, for example:
def f4(a):
b = a
class D:
a = b # Works
return D
But this is not what i was hoping for.
Alexey.
On Tue, 8 May, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Alexey Muranov
wrote:
I have discovered the following bug or
I have discovered the following bug or problem: it looks like i am
forced to choose different names for class attributes and function
arguments, and i see no workaround. Am i missing some special syntax
feature ?
Alexey.
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x = 42
class C1:
y = x # Works
class C2:
x = x # Works
#
On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 22:03 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Alexey Muranov com> wrote:
> > 'Then' describes what happens next indeed, unless some
> > extraordinary
> > situation prevents it from happening, for example:
> >
&
On Thu, 2017-11-02 at 16:31 +, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2017-11-02, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 12:39 am, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> > > Why would we want to make the language worse? It is fairly
> > > obvious
> > > what 'else' means,
> >
> > Yes, obvious and WRONG.
>
> Nope, o
On Thu, 2017-11-02 at 08:21 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
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>
With try/except/else, it's "do this, and if an exception happens, do
this, else do this". So else makes perfect sense.
Indeed, i forgot about `except`. I agree that
"try/then/except/finally" would be better than
"try/except/then/f
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 21:30 +, Stefan Ram wrote:
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> In languages like Algol 68, »then« is used for a clause
> that is to be executed when the main condition of an
> if-statement /is/ true, so this might cause some confusion.
>
sure, and `else` is used for a clause that is to be execu
On Thu, 2017-11-02 at 08:29 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Ned Batchelder
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Apart from the questions of backward compatibility etc (Python is
> > unlikely
> > to ever go through another shift like the 2/3 breakage), are you
> > sure "then"
>
Hello,
what do you think about the idea of replacing "`else`" with "`then`" in
the contexts of `for` and `try`?
It seems clear that it should be rather "then" than "else." Compare
also "try ... then ... finally" with "try ... else ... finally".
Currently, with "else", it is almost impossib
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