Re: Tools to help with text mode (i.e. non-GUI) input

2025-01-14 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2025-01-14, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: > Yes, thanks all, maybe just straightforward curses is the way to go. > Looking at some of the 'cleverer' ones they end up looking remarkably > like GUI code, in which case I might as well use a GUI. The source code to configure and handle a UI

Re: Strategies for avoiding having to use --break-system-packages with pip

2025-01-14 Thread Left Right via Python-list
I wouldn't trust pip to install anything into my system. It's not a reliable program that I'd recommend anyone to use for things that they might depend on. My typical course of action is to create a virtual environment for the package I need. Install the package into that virtual environment usin

Re: Strategies for avoiding having to use --break-system-packages with pip

2025-01-14 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/14/2025 6:32 AM, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels around with me. I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago. I ran Xubun

Python 3.14.0 alpha 4 is out

2025-01-14 Thread Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list
Hello, three dot fourteen dot zero alpha four! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a4/ This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14. Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a4, is the fourth of seven planned alpha releases. Alpha releases are intended to ma

Re: Strategies for avoiding having to use --break-system-packages with pip

2025-01-14 Thread Christian Buhtz via Python-list
Hello Chris, I do have similar "problems" and still try to get used to the "new way". Other might correct me. I am not sure yet. To my current understanding the way to go is to install Python applications via "pipx". That make the application available in your system but also isolate it in it

Re: Strategies for avoiding having to use --break-system-packages with pip

2025-01-14 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/14/25 04:32, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels around with me. I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago. I ran Xubuntu f

Re: Installing Python-3.10.16

2025-01-14 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/13/25 22:47, roc str via Python-list wrote: having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer. Please Advise Mario Ramos. Your question doesn't exactly make sense, but note this: Windows installers are not built for "security bugfix" releases.

Strategies for avoiding having to use --break-system-packages with pip

2025-01-14 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels around with me. I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago. I ran Xubuntu for many years and acquired a whole lot of python packa

Installing Python-3.10.16

2025-01-14 Thread roc str via Python-list
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer. Please Advise Mario Ramos. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tools to help with text mode (i.e. non-GUI) input

2025-01-14 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Alan Gauld wrote: > On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > > On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > > > >> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it. > > > > All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level > > "panel" and "

Re: Tools to help with text mode (i.e. non-GUI) input

2025-01-14 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2025-01-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: >> On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: >> >>> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it. >> >> All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the hi

Re: Tools to help with text mode (i.e. non-GUI) input

2025-01-14 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > >> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it. > > All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level > "panel" and "menu" curses subystems that make