Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 16.02.21 um 06:36 schrieb dn: Pascal's value as a teaching language was that it embodied many aspects of structured programming, and like Python, consisted of a limited range of items which could be learned very quickly (in contrast to PL/I's many 'bells and whistles'). ROFL. Maybe that was

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 15.02.21 um 21:37 schrieb Roel Schroeven: So your claim is that your compiler is able to, or will be able to, compile any language just by specifying a small schema file. Great! Do you maybe have a proof-of-concept? A simple language with a simple schema file to test the basic workings of

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:37 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 16/02/2021 17.57, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:52 PM Igor Korot wrote: > > > >> Hi, guys, > >> Let me try to throw in another one - PL/1. > >> This guys used to be very popular with the accounting community... >

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.10 and 3.6.13 security updates now available

2021-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
Python 3.7.10 and 3.6.13, the lastest security fix rollups for Python 3.7 and Python 3.6, are now available. You can find the release files, links to the changelogs, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3710/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread dn via Python-list
On 16/02/2021 17.57, Dan Stromberg wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:52 PM Igor Korot wrote: > >> Hi, guys, >> Let me try to throw in another one - PL/1. >> This guys used to be very popular with the accounting community... >> > > Actually PL/I is basically proprietary Pascal - from IBM. My

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:52 PM Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, guys, > Let me try to throw in another one - PL/1. > This guys used to be very popular with the accounting community... > Actually PL/I is basically proprietary Pascal - from IBM. My Intro Comp Sci classes at the University of Cincinnati w

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, guys, Let me try to throw in another one - PL/1. This guys used to be very popular with the accounting community... Thank you. On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:51 PM Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > > On 15/02/2021 22:24, Roel Schroeven wrote: > > Grant Edwards schreef op 15/02/2021 om 21:59: >

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 15/02/2021 22:24, Roel Schroeven wrote: > Grant Edwards schreef op 15/02/2021 om 21:59: >> On 2021-02-15, Roel Schroeven wrote: >> >>> Is it your intention to not only compile procedural and object-oriented >>> languages, or also functional languages such as Haskell, Ocaml, Scheme? >> >> And Pr

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-15, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > Of all the languages I've used, Prolog was by far the hardest to get > my head around. The dialect I used the most (which still wasn't much) > was part of Digitalk's Smalltalk system. I don't

Re: Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Ethan Furman writes: > On 2/15/21 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2021-02-15, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> >>> You said you used Usenet (and your reply here was via Usenet). >>> Usenet posts to comp.lang.python don't go to the mailing list (the >>> "here" that Ethan is talking about). Mails to t

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-15, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > Haven't thought about Prolog in a LOOONG time but it had some wild > twists on how to specify a problem that might not be trivial to > integrate with other languages as our now seemingly censored person > with much delusion of grandeur suggests. I

Re: Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread dn via Python-list
On 16/02/2021 07.09, Ethan Furman wrote: > Thank you to those who pointed out this individual to the moderators. As > Mr. Flibble accurately noted, he is not on the mailing list -- so his > posts won't be here either. Appreciating the work you(s) invest on my/our behalf! -- Regards, =dn -- https

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Roel Schroeven
Grant Edwards schreef op 15/02/2021 om 21:59: On 2021-02-15, Roel Schroeven wrote: Is it your intention to not only compile procedural and object-oriented languages, or also functional languages such as Haskell, Ocaml, Scheme? And Prolog! Ha, yes, that one was the next one I thought about,

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Buck Evan
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 1:49 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > When I first met it, one of the concepts I found difficult to 'wrap my > head around' was the idea that "open software" allowed folk to fork the > original work and 'do their own thing'. My thinking was (probably) > "surely, the original

RE: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
Grant, Haven't thought about Prolog in a LOOONG time but it had some wild twists on how to specify a problem that might not be trivial to integrate with other languages as our now seemingly censored person with much delusion of grandeur suggests. It is a language that does not specify what to do b

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Igor Korot
And C. Thank you. On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 3:56 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-15, Roel Schroeven wrote: > > > Is it your intention to not only compile procedural and object-oriented > > languages, or also functional languages such as Haskell, Ocaml, Scheme? > > And Prolog! > > -- > Grant

Re: Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread Ethan Furman
On 2/15/21 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2021-02-15, Ben Bacarisse wrote: You said you used Usenet (and your reply here was via Usenet). Usenet posts to comp.lang.python don't go to the mailing list (the "here" that Ethan is talking about). Mails to the list /are/ sent here, but it's one-w

Re: Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-15, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > You said you used Usenet (and your reply here was via Usenet). > Usenet posts to comp.lang.python don't go to the mailing list (the > "here" that Ethan is talking about). Mails to the list /are/ sent > here, but it's one-way traffic. That's new -- it always

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-15, Roel Schroeven wrote: > Is it your intention to not only compile procedural and object-oriented > languages, or also functional languages such as Haskell, Ocaml, Scheme? And Prolog! -- Grant -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Mr Flibble writes: > On 15/02/2021 18:09, Ethan Furman wrote: >> Thank you to those who pointed out this individual to the >> moderators. As Mr. Flibble accurately noted, he is not on the mailing >> list -- so his posts won't be here either. > > ORLY? You said you used Usenet (and your reply her

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Roel Schroeven
Mr Flibble schreef op 15/02/2021 om 0:32: On 14/02/2021 23:00, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: I'm not saying that it is unfeasible or very difficult. I'm saying that it is a lot of work, and for a single developer who has this as a side project / support for his graphics engine and who wants to bea

Re: Is email.message.get() case insensitive for the header name?

2021-02-15 Thread dn via Python-list
On 15/02/2021 09.50, Chris Green wrote: > It isn't clear from the documentation. Does email.message.get() care > about the case of the header it's getting? > > I checking mailing list mails and the "List-Id:" header is a bit > 'mixed', i.e. it can be List-Id:, or List-ID: or list-id:, will > email

Re: Change first occurrence of character x in a string - how?

2021-02-15 Thread rust buckett
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-14, Mr Flibble wrote: >> On 14/02/2021 21:14, Chris Green wrote: >>> What's the easiest way to change the first occurrence of a specified >>> character in a string? >> >> By using a grown up (i.e. non-toy) programming language. > > > > [gotta love slrn's scori

Mr. Flibble

2021-02-15 Thread Ethan Furman
Thank you to those who pointed out this individual to the moderators. As Mr. Flibble accurately noted, he is not on the mailing list -- so his posts won't be here either. -- ~Ethan~ Python List Moderator -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Efficiency debates

2021-02-15 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 15/02/2021 02:26, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > I think we have discussed this a few times. Indeed, many times! And there is a natural tendency for a group focused on a programming language to fixate on language improvements. But it's worth while to back up and look at real world scenario

Re: Change first occurrence of character x in a string - how?

2021-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-14, Mr Flibble wrote: > On 14/02/2021 21:14, Chris Green wrote: >> What's the easiest way to change the first occurrence of a specified >> character in a string? > > By using a grown up (i.e. non-toy) programming language. [gotta love slrn's scoring feature...] -- https://mail.pyth

Re: New Python implementation

2021-02-15 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
After reading the thread i'm like: where can i try it out ... On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 16:38 Mr Flibble, wrote: > > Hi! > > I am starting work on creating a new Python implementation from scratch > using "neos" my universal compiler that can compile any programming > language. I envision this imple

Re: Venv behaviour change py3.9

2021-02-15 Thread Eryk Sun
On 2/15/21, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > I downloaded Python 3.9 yesterday, added the root folder to path > renamed python.exe to py39.exe and did > py39 -m venv venv > the output was > No such file or directory but i dont remember the exact phrase Probably you downloaded the embedded dist

Re: Is email.message.get() case insensitive for the header name?

2021-02-15 Thread Chris Green
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > On 14/02/2021 21:50, Chris Green wrote: > > > It isn't clear from the documentation. Does email.message.get() care > > about the case of the header it's getting? > > > > I checking mailing list mails and the "List-Id:" header is a bit > > 'mixed', i.e. it ca

Re: @unittest.skip doesn't print anything in Python <= 3.7

2021-02-15 Thread אורי
Hi Terry, Shai Berger found the bug and replied in Stack Overflow. Thanks, Uri. אורי u...@speedy.net On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:36 PM Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/11/2021 3:25 PM, אורי wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66161394/unittest-skip-doesnt-print-anything-in-py

Re: Venv behaviour change py3.9

2021-02-15 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
Well i am no longer on the PC but here are some more info: windows 10, 64bit I downloaded Python 3.9 yesterday, added the root folder to path renamed python.exe to py39.exe and did py39 -m venv venv the output was No such file or directory but i dont remember the exact phrase Kind Regards, A

Re: Is email.message.get() case insensitive for the header name?

2021-02-15 Thread Peter Otten
On 14/02/2021 21:50, Chris Green wrote: It isn't clear from the documentation. Does email.message.get() care about the case of the header it's getting? I checking mailing list mails and the "List-Id:" header is a bit 'mixed', i.e. it can be List-Id:, or List-ID: or list-id:, will email.message.