Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:36 PM DL Neil wrote: > > On 3/08/19 4:02 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > I currently work on my home machine, so my recent 'pair programming' has > > been limited to comments and now diff suggestions on Github PRs. So I > > need the comments on real use cases from you and Chri

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 4:02 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/2/2019 4:52 PM, DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 8:32 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically sepa

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Aug2019 08:52, DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 8:32 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: 2. Do two systems connect directly peer-to-peer or through a server? Exclusively the latter (thus far in the investigation). If one party is remote and both are behind a NAT (_very_ common in Australia, for example)

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Aug2019 16:51, DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 11:50 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: appear.in can also screen share along with its video conferencing, and I imagine Zoom might do so also. But a screen share is "read only" for the other party. You could both screen share of course, but it doesn't s

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread boB Stepp
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 4:11 AM DL Neil wrote: > > Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but > effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are > geographically separate. > At work (not programming related) my department has just started using GoToMeeting. So far i

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 11:50 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: appear.in can also screen share along with its video conferencing, and I imagine Zoom might do so also. But a screen share is "read only" for the other party. You could both screen share of course, but it doesn't solve the keep-the-code-in-sync issue.

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/2/2019 4:44 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: in response to my enquiries Not the OP, but weighing in from personal experience: I've often pair programmed using just a video call service (with screen share). The biggest downside is that it has to share the full image of the screen, which means it

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/2/2019 4:52 PM, DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 8:32 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically separate. 'geographically separate' could ra

Re: PEP: add a `no` keyword as an alias for `not`

2019-08-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/1/2019 4:06 PM, Daniel Okey-Okoro wrote: I think that adding a `no` keyword as an alias for `not` would make for more readable, simple, pythonic code. I am 99.99% sure that this would not be accepted. However, the discussion of the not operator is worth at least a blog post. -- Terry J

Re: Is there a simple way to wrap a built-in function for the whole package?

2019-08-02 Thread jfong
Batuhan Taskaya於 2019年8月3日星期六 UTC+8上午5時27分49秒寫道: > functools.partial is a better option > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 1:25 AM Cameron Simpson wrote: > > > On 31Jul2019 19:16, Jach Fong wrote: > > >I get a package from Pypi. The package has many modules using built-in > > open() function. I like to r

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Aug2019 11:39, DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 10:34 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 7:30 AM DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 8:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Google Hangouts, or a proprietary internal platform ("Owl") which does similar things but is better able to handle different b

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:40 AM DL Neil wrote: > > Basically, what I'd be interested in seeing is a multi-player game of > > Notepad++, in contrast to IRC. http://www.bash.org/?85514 > > With the ability to frag your pair-programmer when (s)he makes a > mistake? Remind me never to 'pair' with you!

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 10:34 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 7:30 AM DL Neil wrote: On 3/08/19 8:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Google Hangouts, or a proprietary internal platform ("Owl") which does similar things but is better able to handle different bandwidth connections. Thanks. Will

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 8:57 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 21:10:32 +1200, DL Neil declaimed the following: - AWS Cloud9: (apparently will run on a small, free, cloud-server) Cloud9 is normally available on BeagleBone Black cards (though you'd have to open up your firewalls and m

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 7:30 AM DL Neil wrote: > > On 3/08/19 8:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > programmed using just a video call service (with screen share). The > > TeamViewer, and similar? > I didn't mention this earlier, perhaps being carried-away by my > enthusiasm for 'there must be a bette

Re: [Python-ideas] Fwd: Re: PEP: add a `no` keyword as an alias for `not`

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
A truly marvellous aspect of Python is its world-wide spread! Many people use Python with greater ease than they speak or write English, despite Python appearing to be a sub-set of the English language! Native English-speakers often* have difficulty following negatively-worded sentences, eg "

Re: [Python-ideas] Fwd: Re: PEP: add a `no` keyword as an alias for `not`

2019-08-02 Thread Andrew Barnert via Python-list
On Aug 1, 2019, at 13:38, Daniel Okey-Okoro wrote: > > > > not a strong enough justification for breaking any code that uses "no" in > > any other way. > > This is a very crucial point I didn't consider. > > > > What if we could le

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 8:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 6:34 AM Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically separate. 'geographically

Re: Is there a simple way to wrap a built-in function for the whole package?

2019-08-02 Thread Batuhan Taskaya
functools.partial is a better option On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 1:25 AM Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 31Jul2019 19:16, Jach Fong wrote: > >I get a package from Pypi. The package has many modules using built-in > open() function. I like to redefine all the open() there with the default > encoding 'utf-8

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
On 3/08/19 8:32 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically separate. 'geographically separate' could range from in the same room to a conti

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 6:34 AM Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: > > Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but > > effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are > > geographically separate. > > 'geographically separate' could range from

Re: Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/2/2019 5:10 AM, DL Neil wrote: Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically separate. 'geographically separate' could range from in the same room to a continent away, as long as two people have

Re: Using pycurl to obtain the download speed in real-time for a huge file.

2019-08-02 Thread Barry Scott
> On 2 Aug 2019, at 08:37, Hongyi Zhao wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to use pycurl to obtain the download speed in real-time for a huge > file. Is this possible or not? Yes > Any hints on this issue? Google for python pycurl progress Barry > > Regards > -- > .: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zha

Remote/Pair-Programming in-the-cloud

2019-08-02 Thread DL Neil
Please recommend a Python-friendly, bandwidth-respectful, (but effective) system for pair-programming; where the 'pair' are geographically separate. Next week is the local PUG's next meeting (details below) billed as a "Python Hands-On Coding night". I shall be travelling, so can't attend in

Using pycurl to obtain the download speed in real-time for a huge file.

2019-08-02 Thread Hongyi Zhao
Hi, I want to use pycurl to obtain the download speed in real-time for a huge file. Is this possible or not? Any hints on this issue? Regards -- .: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zhao AT gmail.com ] Free as in Freedom :. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list