Re: python package management confusion

2019-01-16 Thread dieter
dcs3spp via Python-list writes: > ... > How do I configure python setup.py develop to pull the pyramid_core dependent > packages using virtualenv? Your "setup.py" below should work (once, you have removed the ""). If the "pyramid" package correctly declares its dependencies, then the "pyrami

RE: the python name

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
Greg, Boy am I getting sorry I brought this topic up again. Getting hard to take seriously. I am not making fun of the python name. I am making fun of the people that want a GOOD REASON for choosing a name. People generally don't care what silly name you choose for a dog and certainly tolerate w

Re: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:55 PM Avi Gross wrote: > The forthcoming UNIX 2038 problem will, paradoxically happen on January 19. > Paradoxically? What do you mean by that? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
Dave, You have me worried now. Yes, years from now you may need experts who can handle not just 2.X but specific versions like 2.4. Assuming python keeps making incompatible changes and is up to version 9.02, you may also have 3.X experts and 4.X experts and so on. Of course, by then, some of the

Re: the python name

2019-01-16 Thread Gregory Ewing
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Getting too close to REXX (which was something like Restructured EXtended eXecutor). And if we continue the theme of dinosaur evolution, we end up with Tyrannosaurus REXX. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: the python name

2019-01-16 Thread Gregory Ewing
Avi Gross wrote: The question that seems to come up too often about the python name is a distraction. In particular, it is answered fairly prominently in many places as just being a nonsensical name because a founder once liked a comedic entity that chose an oddball name, so they did too. That

RE: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
Larry, I was not belittling the effort it took to make sure Y2K was not a disaster. I was making the comparison of how you could start to emulate the problem in advance just as you can easily test older python code with newer ones. My work those days was in places where we did not do much of wh

Re: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread DL Neil
On 17/01/19 4:45 PM, Larry Martell wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 9:35 PM Avi Gross wrote: Chris, The comparison to Y2K was not a great one. I am not sure what people did in advance, but all it took was to set the clock forward on a test system and look for anomalies. Not everything would be

Re: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 9:35 PM Avi Gross wrote: > > Chris, > > The comparison to Y2K was not a great one. I am not sure what people did in > advance, but all it took was to set the clock forward on a test system and > look for anomalies. Not everything would be found but it gave some hints. Clea

Guido (Sarducci)

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
Dennis, I wish to apologize for introducing any suggestion to name anything as Guido, let alone any language that springs from a python. Yes, it may be a stereotypic Italian name related to what you hint at. You probably recognized it as an allusion to someone who is clearly Dutch and has some fin

RE: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
Chris, The comparison to Y2K was not a great one. I am not sure what people did in advance, but all it took was to set the clock forward on a test system and look for anomalies. Not everything would be found but it gave some hints. Similarly, it is trivial today to take a machine and install only

Re: get the terminal's size

2019-01-16 Thread Akkana Peck
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:57:33 +, Alex Ternaute wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I want to know the number of columns of the terminal where python2 writes > > it's outputs. A couple days late to the party, a discussion of several ways I tried: http://shallowsky.com/blog/hardware/serial-24-lin

Re: get the terminal's size

2019-01-16 Thread Wildman via Python-list
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:57:33 +, Alex Ternaute wrote: > Hi there, > > I want to know the number of columns of the terminal where python2 writes > it's outputs. > > In a terminal, I type > $ echo $COLUMNS > 100 > > But in Python, os.getenv("COLUMNS") gets nothing. > It gets nothing as well i

Re: the python name

2019-01-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:37 AM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:46:29 -0500, "Avi Gross" > declaimed the following: > > >Imagine people developing languages like X and Y and over the years > >enhancing them. > > > >An Enhanced or Extended X, naturally, might be renamed EX. > >

Re: Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:04 AM Avi Gross wrote: > > I see messages like the following where someone is still asking how to do > something in some version of python 2.X. > > I recall the days before the year 2000 with the Y2K scare when people > worried that legacy software might stop working or d

Pythonic Y2K

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
I see messages like the following where someone is still asking how to do something in some version of python 2.X. I recall the days before the year 2000 with the Y2K scare when people worried that legacy software might stop working or do horrible things once the clock turned. It may even have bee

RE: the python name

2019-01-16 Thread Avi Gross
[HUMOR for the ALERT] The question that seems to come up too often about the python name is a distraction. In particular, it is answered fairly prominently in many places as just being a nonsensical name because a founder once liked a comedic entity that chose an oddball name, so they did too. Bu

ANN: libchirp (Message-passing for everyone)

2019-01-16 Thread Jean-Louis Fuchs
Announcing libchirp Message-passing for everyone. I proudly announce libchirp [0]. I believe queues, message-routers and patterns like pub-sub are the way message-passing should be done. However, I also believe they should be optional and tweak-able. lib

Re: get the terminal's size

2019-01-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-01-16, Karen Shaeffer wrote: [fixed quoting and formatting] >> That will tell you the terminal size at the time Python was started. >> >> If the terminal size has changed while Python was running, those >> environment variables will be wrong. You need to use the TIOCGWINSZ >> ioctl call

Re: python package management confusion

2019-01-16 Thread dcs3spp via Python-list
On Wednesday, 16 January 2019 07:07:29 UTC, dieter wrote: > dcs3spp via Python-list writes: > > ... > > So to manage the development of private packages, e.g. wheels, I would have > > to use my own private repository (something like devpi or a an alternative > > cloud pypi subscription service)

Re: Email blast management?

2019-01-16 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
unless there's a solid python solution out there ready to plug in Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [tkinter] question about correct use of validation

2019-01-16 Thread Peter Otten
steve wrote: > for determine the maximum number of characters in an entry > > I have read several interpretations for the solution of the problem, but > I wanted to find an alternative way (for convenience of the code) > > I kindly ask for an opinion on the use of validation in this way. > > --