On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:28:43 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 07/03/18 16:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> I love watching pedantically precise people panic and dig themselves
>> into a hole. Since I'm an extremely pedantic person myself, I can
>> recognise it in others -- especially when they're not as
On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 17:22:43 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> x: int = 3
[...]
> This strikes me as syntactic noise. Python is dynamically typed and
> will remain so. Why clutter the language - even optionally - with stuff
> like this?
There's no need to declare x:int = 3 since any linter worth it
On Wed, 04 Jul 2018 12:31:16 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
[...]
>> Ah, I see we're not going to leave it alone. In that case,
>> "indefinite"
>> is a "number", in that it was a quantity you cited along with the other
>> two. If you'd prefer to call it a "quantity", that's fine with me.
>> Talk a
Hi,
I am trying to establish a connection to openstack cloud . I am able to
establish a connection with the following statement
from openstack import connectionconn =
connection.Connection(auth_url="http://192.168.0.19:5000/v3",
project_name="admin",username="admin",
On 07/03/18 22:03, Ben Finney wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
I claimed that Steven was using three different numbers to refer to
the time it takes to master a subject:
10,000 hours
an indefinite number
2 years
Yes. He did so in the context of showing that *there is no precise
number* that universa
Now that I've actually read the PEP (sorry, I just assumed it would
never fly), I have a couple of (tongue-in-cheek) observations about
it:
> group = re.match(data).group(1) if re.match(data) else None
The only problem with this example of doing more work to save a line
of code is that presumably
Jim Lee writes:
> I claimed that Steven was using three different numbers to refer to
> the time it takes to master a subject:
>
> 10,000 hours
> an indefinite number
> 2 years
Yes. He did so in the context of showing that *there is no precise
number* that universally applies for the amount of e
Robin Becker writes:
> On a Ubuntu trusty system I ran
> ./configure --prefix=/home/rptlab/PYTHON
> make && make install
> and get an error related to the ctypes module not being importable.
>
> I needed to do
>
> sudo apt-get install libffi-dev
> ./configure --prefix=/home/rptlab/PYTHON --with-s
On 07/03/18 21:35, Ben Finney wrote:
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer writes:
apart from programming, other questions go like this :
[…]
*cut at this point*
Ooh, I like that last step! How do we make that happen on demand?
You could start by not adding to the noise... :)
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On 07/03/18 21:25, Ben Finney wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
Three numbers. And “indef
conversation dies
it denotes the end of the picture i was painting
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Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer writes:
> apart from programming, other questions go like this :
>
> […]
> *cut at this point*
Ooh, I like that last step! How do we make that happen on demand?
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T Berger writes:
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-4, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Given that history [of ignoring user requests for improvement], you
> > might want to avoid Google Groups for interacting with forums, and
> > choose software that works better with discussion forums. I am told
list members have a nice way to wriggle out of the subject ^^_
apart from programming, other questions go like this :
asker : what do you think about this python thing?
next post : *on track*
next post : *on track*
next post : *on track* btw thon is the name of a fish in french
next post : a
Jim Lee writes:
> On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote:
> > Jim Lee writes:
> >
> >> If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
> >> an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
> > Three numbers. And “indefinite” is not one of t
https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8vmq27/pep_572_assignment_expressions_is_officially/
XD nice feedbacks about the pep
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, 06:02 Steven D'Aprano, <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Congratulations to
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-4, Ben Finney wrote:
> T Berger writes:
>
> > I'm posting directly to the forum (computer.lang.python, at this web
> > address:
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/vWCvLYjOWUQ)
>
> Thanks for being specific. So, from that descri
On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
Three numbers. And “indefinite” is not one of those numbers. So, no,
that doesn't
Jim Lee writes:
> If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
> an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
Three numbers. And “indefinite” is not one of those numbers. So, no,
that doesn't support “"indefinite" is a number”.
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On 07/03/18 19:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
I've had debates with people about whether "infinity" is a number or
not, but I've never yet heard anyone say that "indefinite" is a
number. Hmm. This could be interesting.
ChrisA
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had a
Grant Edwards :
> Found a NetBSD 7.1 system to test on...
>
> After killing a server with an active connection, a new server can
> bind to the same socket regardless of the SO_REUSEADDR setting in
> either server. I don't know if that's some sort of system
> configuration setting or what...
The qu
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
>
>
> On 07/03/18 16:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>
>> I love watching pedantically precise people panic and dig themselves into
>> a hole. Since I'm an extremely pedantic person myself, I can recognise it
>> in others -- especially when they're no
On 07/03/18 16:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I love watching pedantically precise people panic and dig themselves into
a hole. Since I'm an extremely pedantic person myself, I can recognise it
in others -- especially when they're not as precisely correct as they
think they're being.
It was two n
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Congratulations to Chris Angelico for breaking the dreaded "any PEP
> written by Chris will be rejected" curse :-)
I'm actually somewhat astonished at that part. But thanks anyway.
ChrisA
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Congratulations to Chris Angelico for breaking the dreaded "any PEP
written by Chris will be rejected" curse :-)
Guido has announced his intention to accept PEP 572 (assignment
expressions) once the PEP has been cleaned up a bit.
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0572/
(The current version o
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 07:52:42 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> .replace("a" or "b")
Oh I *wish* Python accepted that syntax to mean what you thought it meant.
That's a common error: a surprising number of beginners are fooled by how
close Python is to natural language and try writing th
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:14:37 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 07/03/18 01:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I said *indefinite* not infinite.
>
> Yes, you did. My bad.
Thanks Jim, your acknowledgement is appreciated.
>> You did read the article I linked to, right? You know that people don't
>> suddenly
On 03/07/2018 03:41, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/2/2018 8:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:53:15 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2018 6:14 AM, BlindAnagram wrote:
In Python 3.7.0 on Windows the help file (python370.chm) displays with
a fixed line length and d
I have some success with this. I am not sure if this would work longer term,
as in restarting it, but so far so good. Any issue with this new code?
import time
from threading import Thread
th=Thread()
class Answer(Thread):
def run(self):
a=input("What is your answer:")
if a
T Berger writes:
> I'm posting directly to the forum (computer.lang.python, at this web
> address:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/vWCvLYjOWUQ)
Thanks for being specific. So, from that description, you are using the
Google Groups web interface to read and send messages
i want to add raster functionality in django using postgis database using
django-raster package and this docs
http://django-raster.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tms.html
here my code :
models.py
from django.contrib.gis.db import models
class RasterWithName(models.Model):
raster = models.RasterF
The way I've done the "input with timeout" requirement the OP requested is
dependent on the operating system. The current implementation of the input
function doesn't offer that feature.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#input
In another language, I used low-levelsystem calls to
David D wrote:
> Is there a SIMPLE method that I can have a TIMER count down at a user input
> prompt - if the user doesn't enter information within a 15 second period, it
> times out.
Does this do what you want?
from threading import Timer
import sys
import os
def run_later():
print("Timed
On 7/3/18 9:45 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
>
>
> On 07/03/18 08:49, T Berger wrote:
>>
>> It would help if my conversations showed up in my gmail, but they
>> don't. I thought that would happen when I chose the "Automatically
>> subscribe me to email updates when I post to a topic" option in the
>> forum
On 07/03/18 08:49, T Berger wrote:
It would help if my conversations showed up in my gmail, but they don't. I thought that
would happen when I chose the "Automatically subscribe me to email updates when I
post to a topic" option in the forum settings. Am I wrong? And is there some way to
This works, but does not do exactly what I want. When the user enters in a
correct answer, the program and threading stops. Any ideas on what I should
change?
import time
from threading import Thread
class Answer(Thread):
def run(self):
a=input("What is your answer:")
if a=
This works, but does not do exactly what I want. What I want to happen is :
when the user enters in a correct answer, the program and threading stops. Any
ideas on what I should change?
import time
from threading import Thread
class Answer(Thread):
def run(self):
a=input("What
On 07/03/18 06:32, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:51:29 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
declaimed the following:
Except that the current attempt is to use techniques like agile,
scrum, pair programming, and so forth to turn programming into
a factory activity. High degrees of specializa
On 2018-07-03, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:24:26 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2018-07-03, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>>
>>> I used to write useful programs that ran in 256 bytes of RAM.
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>> Less than 10 years ago.
>>
>> In a real product.
>>
>> That's still
On 07/03/18 01:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I said *indefinite* not infinite.
Yes, you did. My bad.
You did read the article I linked to, right? You know that people don't
suddenly and instantly turn from "beginner" to "expert" when they exceed
9,999 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds? Quibblin
On 2018-07-03 14:06, Mikhail V wrote:
> Greg wrote:
>
>> Mikhail V wrote:
>>> s= "\"s\"" ->
>>> s= {"s"}
>>
>> But now you need to find another way to represent set literals.
>
>
> I need to find? That comment was not about (current) Python but
> rather how I think string should have been
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:24:26 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2018-07-03, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
>> I used to write useful programs that ran in 256 bytes of RAM.
>
> Me too.
>
> Less than 10 years ago.
>
> In a real product.
>
> That's still shipping.
Well don't be shy. Got a link?
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S
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:36:00 PM UTC-4, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:02 AM, T Berger wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view? And
> > why is the tree view completely out of order? My last two posts in this
> > view are from 6/27 a
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:05 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Gregory Ewing :
>
>> Robin Becker wrote:
>>> if I leave out the signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM,signal.SIG_IGN) then
>>> the timeout function gets called anyway.
>>
>> Yes, it needs some more stuff around it to make it useful. Probably
>> you a
On 2018-07-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2018-07-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2018-07-01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> Gregory Ewing :
>>>
I don't see how the address-reuse timeout can be a security measure,
because the process trying to take over the address can easily
circumvent
On 2018-07-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2018-07-01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Gregory Ewing :
>>
>>> I don't see how the address-reuse timeout can be a security measure,
>>> because the process trying to take over the address can easily
>>> circumvent it by setting SO_REUSEADDR.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>
On 2018-07-01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Gregory Ewing :
>
>> I don't see how the address-reuse timeout can be a security measure,
>> because the process trying to take over the address can easily
>> circumvent it by setting SO_REUSEADDR.
>
> [...]
>
> Nevertheless, the later socket object cannot un
On Tuesday 03 July 2018 09:32:52 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:51:29 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
>
> declaimed the following:
> >Except that the current attempt is to use techniques like agile,
> >scrum, pair programming, and so forth to turn programming into
> >a factory activity. Hi
Won't this code send a signal *regardless* of the user input to the process
within 15 seconds. I don't see how it's tied to terminal input.
From what I can tell, you need to create your own version of input with a
timeout option. This doesn't do that.
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> On 02-Jul
Chris Angelico :
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> It's crucial that the killed party is the server for the situation to
>> arise.
>>
>> That's why polite clients close their end of the connection before
>> the server. Whoever closes first will suffer the TIME-WAIT state
On 2018-07-03, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> I used to write useful programs that ran in 256 bytes of RAM.
Me too.
Less than 10 years ago.
In a real product.
That's still shipping.
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at
Gregory Ewing :
> Robin Becker wrote:
>> if I leave out the signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM,signal.SIG_IGN) then
>> the timeout function gets called anyway.
>
> Yes, it needs some more stuff around it to make it useful. Probably
> you also want the signal handler to raise an exception and catch it
>
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Gregory Ewing :
>
>> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> Nevertheless, the later socket object cannot unilaterally take over a
>>> socket using SO_REUSEADDR. The earlier socket object must have set the
>>> same option previously.
>>
>> I just did an e
On 01/07/2018 18:06, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
was viewing pep526, so, finally, python cannot do without hinting the type
as other languages?
will python finally move to
int x = 3 where int is a pre annotation?
i am not arguing it's usefulness but rather, does it fit with python?
Not in
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Or as my wife would say, "did you mean an Aussie couple or an actual
> couple?" I meant an Aussie couple, which could be anything from two to
> four or five. Six at a stretch. As in, "no worries mate, it'll be ready
> in a coupla days."
cf
Robin Becker wrote:
if I leave out the signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM,signal.SIG_IGN) then the
timeout function gets called anyway.
Yes, it needs some more stuff around it to make it useful.
Probably you also want the signal handler to raise an
exception and catch it somewhere rather than exiting
On a Ubuntu trusty system I ran
./configure --prefix=/home/rptlab/PYTHON
make && make install
and get an error related to the ctypes module not being importable.
I needed to do
sudo apt-get install libffi-dev
./configure --prefix=/home/rptlab/PYTHON --with-system-ffi
make && make install
Som
Gregory Ewing :
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Nevertheless, the later socket object cannot unilaterally take over a
>> socket using SO_REUSEADDR. The earlier socket object must have set the
>> same option previously.
>
> I just did an experiment that suggests that's not the case.
> I created a socket
Greg wrote:
> Mikhail V wrote:
> > s= "\"s\"" ->
> > s= {"s"}
>
> But now you need to find another way to represent set literals.
I need to find? That comment was not about (current) Python but
rather how I think string should have been from the beginning.
So you already like it and want
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Mikhail V wrote:
s= "\"s\"" ->
s= {"s"}
But now you need to find another way to represent set literals.
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:20:53 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 07/02/18 17:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> For most of us mere mortals, the "ten thousand hours" rule of thumb
>> applies.
>>
>> Ten thousand hours should be read as an indefinitely large number
>>
>>> A truly good programmer will be able t
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
"Jack of all trades, master of none" sort of thing?
Or are you thinking more along the lines of one of those guys who masters
a new language in an hour and reaches expert level in a week?
I'm not talking about someone who hasn't mastered anything.
I'm talking about some
On 03/07/2018 07:12, Gregory Ewing wrote:
import signal, sys
def timeout(*args):
print("Too late!")
sys.exit(0)
signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM, timeout)
signal.setitimer(signal.ITIMER_REAL, 15)
data = input("Enter something: ")
print("You entered: ", data)
This doesn't work in windows
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> In particular, there is little interest in having programmers
> learn on the job, only that they be as productive as possible
> as fast they can. Hiring specific languages skills - the theory
> goes - means that the individual will be fluent
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