On 6/26/2018 11:26 PM, Sharan Basappa wrote:
Folks,
I know this is not a machine learning forum but I wanted to see if anyone can
explain this to me.
In artificial neural network, I can understand why sigmoid is used but I see
that derivative of sigmoid output function is used. I am not able
Folks,
I know this is not a machine learning forum but I wanted to see if anyone can
explain this to me.
In artificial neural network, I can understand why sigmoid is used but I see
that derivative of sigmoid output function is used. I am not able to understand
why.
For example:
# convert out
Bart wrote:
I don't know whether there is a direct equivalent in Python (I thought
somebody would point it out)
Not built-in, but a tiny bit of googling turns this up:
https://pypi.org/project/bitarray/
"This module provides an object type which efficiently represents an array of
booleans. B
On 27Jun2018 08:55, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On closer inspection it looks like a FIDONET gateway may be the cause.
I've made enquiries of ab...@news.bbs.nz and newsmas...@news.bbs.nz, and am
awaiting a response.
I've also asked at Castle Rock BBS, based on a different header.
Cheers,
Cameron
Bart wrote:
x = set(range(10_000_000))
This used up 460MB of RAM (the original 100M I tried exhausted the memory).
The advantage of Pascal-style sets is that that same set will occupy
only 1.25MB, as it is a bit-map.
That's true, but they're also extremely limited compared to
the things y
Cameron Simpson wrote:
> I've been noticing a swathe of messages in the past few days with From:
> headers like this:
>
> From: "Steven D'Aprano"
In comp.lang.python I'm seeing repeats of messages that were
posted 2 or 3 days ago, with these mangled addresses.
--
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On 26Jun2018 07:44, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/26/18 2:50 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Jun2018 17:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
Generally spamassassin only gets picky about this occasionally, but for
the past several hours its working overtime on python list messages,
with the major problem being
On 25Jun2018 18:37, Mark Lawrence wrote:
More of the flaming things, this time name@1261/38.remove-ij1-this. Any ideas
as I don't understand this stuff?
Looks like a FIDONET gateway leaking somehow. I've made an enquiry to a
possible source for the message, we'll see what transpires.
Cheer
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This is the first release of PyYAML under a new maintenance team. In August
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On 26/06/18 12:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Bart wrote:
On 19/06/2018 11:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:19:15 +0100, Bart wrote:
* Integer sets (Pascal-like sets)
Why do you need them if you have real sets?
I tried Python sets for the f
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, at 13:37, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> More of the flaming things, this time name@1261/38.remove-ij1-this. Any
> ideas as I don't understand this stuff?
I've contacted the list admin about this. It doesn't seem like it's going to go
away on its own. I just received another batch
From: Mark Lawrence
On 25/06/18 17:15, jkn wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:23:57 PM UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:15 PM, jkn wrote:
>>> (as well as pedanticism ;-o).
>>
>> Pedantry.
>>
>> ChrisA
>> (You know I can't let that one pass.)
>
> I was chanel[l]ing t
From: Mark Lawrence
On 25/06/18 10:10, Alister via Python-list wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:36:25 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>
>> i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do
>>
>> list = [1,2,3]
>> for i in range(len(list)):
>> print(list[i])
>>
>>
>>
From: Mark Lawrence
Hi folks,
In the last hour or so I've seen via thunderbird and gmane around 15 emails
from various people where the from field is name@1261/38.remove-r7u-this. The
part after the @ symbol never changes. I've seen the contents previously,
apart from one from the RUE. Users'
From: Mark Lawrence
On 24/06/18 17:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Anyone on the Python-Dev mailing list, are you getting private emails
> containing nothing but stream of consciousness word-salad from somebody
> (some bot?) calling himself "Chanel Marvin" with a gmail address?
>
> Typical example:
From: Mark Lawrence
On 24/06/18 00:44, boB Stepp wrote:
> I imagine that the
> transition from version 2 to 3 was not undertaken halfheartedly, but
> only after much thought and discussion since it did break backwards
> compatibility.
>
So much so that a specific mailing list was set up just to
From: Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:40 AM, wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>> I already have quite an experience in programming, and I wish to study
>> Python as well. I need to study it before I continue with my comp. science
>> academic stud
Le 26/06/18 à 15:50, Gene Heskett a écrit :
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 02:50:01 Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Jun2018 17:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings list;
Generally spamassassin only gets picky about this occasionally, but
for the past several hours its working overtime on python list
messa
To: boB Stepp
From: "Bart"
To: boB Stepp
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 16:37, boB Stepp wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:21 AM Bart wrote:
> "... And of course, you would have to know how to use Python properly in
> idiomatic style.
No. I want to program in /my/ style, one more like the pse
To: Chris Angelico
From: "Bart"
To: Chris Angelico
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 15:46, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:18:37 +0100, Bart wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder why it is just me that constantly needs to justify his
>>>
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Rick Johnson
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 5:56:04 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Nearly everybody misses the fact that the Zen is a joke,
> not to be taken *too* seriously. A particularly subtle
> joke, but still a joke.
The Python Zen is not merely a joke. But it
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "Rick Johnson"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Rick Johnson
On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 10:05:14 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...]
> Be fair. It's more like 50% of the time. Let's not dogpile
> onto Bart. He asked a question, I answered it, we don't all
> need to si
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "Stefan Ram"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Steven D'Aprano writes:
>It has been a long, long time since Python has been a "simple" language
>suitable for rank beginners, if it ever was. Python is not Scratch.
Python is simpler in
To: Ben Bacarisse
From: "Bart"
To: Ben Bacarisse
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 01:53, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Bart writes:
>> Wow. (Just think of all the times you write a function containing a
>> neat bunch of local functions, every time it's called it has to create
>> a new function instances
To: boB Stepp
From: "Bart"
To: boB Stepp
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 00:44, boB Stepp wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:35 PM Bart wrote:
>> I'm not a user...
>
> Then I am truly puzzled, Bart. Why do you even bother to hang out on
> this list? If you do not want to use Python and you do
To: Bart
From: "Gregory Ewing"
To: Bart
From: Gregory Ewing
Bart wrote:
> But 40 years
> ago it was just 'readln a,b,c'; it was just taken for granted.
The problem with something like that is that it's really only useful for
throwaway code. For any serious application, you need to deal wit
To: Bart
From: "Gregory Ewing"
To: Bart
From: Gregory Ewing
Bart wrote:
> Wow. (Just think of all the times you write a function containing a neat
> bunch of local functions, every time it's called it has to create a new
> function instances for each of those functions, even if they are not
To: boB Stepp
From: "Bart"
To: boB Stepp
From: Bart
On 23/06/2018 20:52, boB Stepp wrote:
> I've finally found time to examine this rather long, rambling thread.
>> There is a place for various levels of programming language. I'm saying that
Python which is always touted as a 'simple' lang
To: Bart
From: "Ben Bacarisse"
To: Bart
From: Ben Bacarisse
Bart writes:
> On 23/06/2018 23:25, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Bart writes:
>>
>>> On 23/06/2018 21:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Bart wrote:
>>>
> (At what point would that happen anyway; if
To: Bart
From: "Ben Bacarisse"
To: Bart
From: Ben Bacarisse
Bart writes:
> On 23/06/2018 21:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Bart wrote:
>
>>> (At what point would that happen anyway; if you do this:
>
>> NONE of your examples are taking copies of the functi
To: Ben Bacarisse
From: "Bart"
To: Ben Bacarisse
From: Bart
On 23/06/2018 23:25, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Bart writes:
>
>> On 23/06/2018 21:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Bart wrote:
>>
(At what point would that happen anyway; if you do this:
>>
>>> NO
To: Chris Angelico
From: "Bart"
To: Chris Angelico
From: Bart
On 23/06/2018 21:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Bart wrote:
>> (At what point would that happen anyway; if you do this:
> NONE of your examples are taking copies of the function. They all are
> m
From: Dan Stromberg
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:40 AM, wrote:
> Hey,
> I already have quite an experience in programming, and I wish to study
> Python as well. I need to study it before I continue with my comp. science
> academic studies.
> How do you recommend studying it? As mentioned in the he
To: Chris Angelico
From: jkn
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:23:57 PM UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:15 PM, jkn wrote:
> > (as well as pedanticism ;-o).
>
> Pedantry.
>
> ChrisA
> (You know I can't let that one pass.)
I was chanel[l]ing the TimBot, as any fule kno...
From: T Berger
IΓ ╓m creating a webapp and trying to download a stylesheet and templates from
my manualΓ ╓s support site. I must be doing something wrong, because when I try
to run my app, I get a 404 error message. I downloaded the files by dragging
them off the screen into my webapp folder. Bu
From: Tim Chase
On 2018-06-23 23:08, Jim Lee wrote:
>>> On 06/23/2018 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
def test():
a = 1
b = 2
result = [value for key, value in locals().items()]
return result
what would you expect the result of calling t
To: Mark Lawrence
From: Alister
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:42:27 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 25/06/18 10:10, Alister via Python-list wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:36:25 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>>
>>> i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do
>>>
>>
From: Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:15 PM, jkn wrote:
> (as well as pedanticism ;-o).
Pedantry.
ChrisA
(You know I can't let that one pass.)
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From: Paul St George
Understanding and having an interest in Python does not imply knowledge of
Usenet, mailing lists, NNTP, gateways, gmane, bottom-posting, vanilla-flopping,
/et al/.
But, knowledge of these seems to be needed (or is at least useful) in order to
fully benefit from the Python l
To: Paul Moore
From: jkn
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:17:29 PM UTC+1, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 25 June 2018 at 11:53, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>
> > And the specific line you reference is *especially* a joke, one which
> > flies past nearly everyone's head:
> >
> > There should be one-- and p
From: Grant Edwards
On 2018-06-25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> And the specific line you reference is *especially* a joke, one which
> flies past nearly everyone's head:
>
> There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
>
> Notice the dashes? There are *two* traditional wa
From: Tim Chase
On 2018-06-24 05:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer,
> since this is about your EXPECTATIONS, not what Python actually
> does.
>
> Given this function:
>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b = 2
> result = [value for key
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:46:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 06/24/2018 04:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> Indeed. That's one of the beauties of Python -- even when there's an
>> advanced way to do it, there's generally a simple way too.
>>
>>
> What happened to the Python m
To: itaiyz97
From: edmondo.giovanno...@gmail.com
Il giorno luned─¼ 25 giugno 2018 12:40:53 UTC+2, itai...@gmail.com ha scritto:
> Hey,
> I already have quite an experience in programming, and I wish to study Python
as well. I need to study it before I continue with my comp. science academic
stud
From: itaiy...@gmail.com
Hey,
I already have quite an experience in programming, and I wish to study Python
as well. I need to study it before I continue with my comp. science academic
studies.
How do you recommend studying it? As mentioned in the headline, I already know
Java, C++ and C.
Thanks!
To: Hartmut Goebel
From: jkn
On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 10:02:05 PM UTC+1, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce pdftools.pdfposter 0.7, a tool to scale and
> tile PDF images/pages to print on multiple pages.
>
> :Homepage: https://pdfposter.readthedocs.io/
> :Author:Γ Γ Hartmut Goe
From: Paul Moore
On 25 June 2018 at 11:53, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> And the specific line you reference is *especially* a joke, one which
> flies past nearly everyone's head:
>
> There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
>
>
> Notice the dashes? There are *two* tradi
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Bart
On 25/06/2018 01:52, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 21:21:57 +0100, Bart wrote:
>
>> I've had half a dozen users
>
> Come back when you've had *half a million users* then we'll take your
> experiences seriously.
That being the case with Python (mayb
To: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
From: Alister
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:36:25 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do
>
> list = [1,2,3]
> for i in range(len(list)):
> print(list[i])
>
>
> but the you might as well go for the
From: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
we must maybe fibd an example where both are pythonic but one is simpler unless
my type of example was intented by @steve
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
>
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From: Jim Lee
On 06/24/2018 04:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> Indeed. That's one of the beauties of Python -- even when there's an
> advanced way to do it, there's generally a simple way too.
>
>
What happened to the Python maxim "There should be oneΓ ÷and preferably only
oneΓ ÷obvious way t
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From: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do
list = [1,2,3]
for i in range(len(list)):
print(list[i])
but the you might as well go for the simpler :
for elem in list:
print(elem)
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abd
From: Ben Finney
Paul Moore writes:
> On 24 June 2018 at 06:03, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> > Given this function:
> >
> > def test():
> > a = 1
> > b = 2
> > result = [value for key, value in locals().items()]
> > return result
> >
> > what would you expect the result of callin
From: Gene Heskett
Greetings list;
Generally spamassassin only gets picky about this occasionally, but for the
past several hours its working overtime on python list messages, with the major
problem being the servers time stamp, a day or more in the past. Anyboy ever
hear of ntpd?
--
Cheers, Ge
From: Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Anyone on the Python-Dev mailing list, are you getting private emails
> containing nothing but stream of consciousness word-salad from
> somebody (some bot?) calling himself "Chanel Marvin" with a gmail
> address?
I am on that forum (via Gmane), and a
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 21:21:57 +0100, Bart wrote:
> I've had half a dozen users
Come back when you've had *half a million users* then we'll take your
experiences seriously.
https://blog.pythonanywhere.com/67/
https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/09/06/incredible-growth-python/
From: Hartmut Goebel
I'm pleased to announce pdftools.pdfposter 0.7, a tool to scale and tile PDF
images/pages to print on multiple pages.
:Homepage: https://pdfposter.readthedocs.io/
:Author:Γ Γ Hartmut Goebel
:Licence:Γ GNU Public Licence v3 (GPLv3)
:Quick Installation:
Γ Γ Γ pip install
From: Ben Finney
Robert Latest via Python-list writes:
> Because the main.py script needs to import the tables.py module from
> backend, I put this at the top if main.py:
>
>sys.path.append('../..')
>import jobwatch.backend.tables as tables
>
> My question is: Is this the way it should
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 20:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:37:33 +0100, Bart wrote:
>
>> I want to program in /my/ style
>
> Python is not Java, and Java is not Python either. Nor is it "Bart's
> Language", or C, or Forth, or Lisp, or bash.
>
> https://d
From: Paul Moore
On 24 June 2018 at 06:03, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer, since
> this is about your EXPECTATIONS, not what Python actually does.
>
> Given this function:
>
>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b = 2
> result = [value
To: Stefan Ram
From: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>Still, one must not forget that learning Python encompasses
>all the hard work it takes to learn how to program in every
>language.
"Beginner", however, is a very vague term. A good scienti
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Rick Johnson
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
> I get spam bots trying to flush out suckers. I don't get
> bots that send out random messages to random people. Why?
Steven, my son, i suppose some questions just answer themselves...
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To: Richard Damon
From: "Stefan Ram"
To: Richard Damon
From: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Richard Damon writes:
>Now, if I have a parser that doesn't use the locale, but some other rule
>base than I just need to provide it with the right rules, which is
>basically just defining the
From: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
naaa it was not meant to be python ^^
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
>
>
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To: Richard Damon
From: "Marko Rauhamaa"
To: Richard Damon
From: Marko Rauhamaa
Richard Damon :
> On 6/23/18 9:05 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Richard Damon :
>>
>>> On 6/23/18 8:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I always know my locale. The locale is tied to the human user.
>>> No, it sho
To: Stefan Ram
From: "Bart"
To: Stefan Ram
From: Bart
On 23/06/2018 14:32, Stefan Ram wrote:
> r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>> def f():
>> def g():
>> g.x += 1
>> return g.x
>> g.x = 0
>> return g
>
>Or, "for all g to share the same x":
>
>
To: Stefan Ram
From: "Stefan Ram"
To: Stefan Ram
From: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>def f():
>def g():
>g.x += 1
>return g.x
>g.x = 0
>return g
Or, "for all g to share the same x":
main.py
def f():
d
To: Richard Damon
From: "Marko Rauhamaa"
To: Richard Damon
From: Marko Rauhamaa
Richard Damon :
> On 6/23/18 8:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I always know my locale. The locale is tied to the human user.
> No, it should be tied to the data you are processing.
In computing, a locale i
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "Stefan Ram"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Steven D'Aprano writes:
>def f():
>static x = 0
>def g():
>x += 1
>return x
>return g
What one can do today:
main.py
def g():
g.x += 1
return g.x
To: Richard Damon
From: "Marko Rauhamaa"
To: Richard Damon
From: Marko Rauhamaa
Richard Damon :
> If you know the Locale, then you do know what the decimal separator
> is, as that is part of what a locale defines.
I don't know what that sentence means.
> The issue is that if you just know
From: "Steven D'Aprano"
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 06:26:22 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
> If you know the Locale, then you do know what the decimal separator is,
> as that is part of what a locale defines.
A locale defines a set of common cultural conventions. It doesn't mandat
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "Bart"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Bart
On 23/06/2018 04:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:18:19 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Ah. Yeah, that would be a plausible feature to add to Python. But in C,
>> a static variable is basically the same thi
From: "Peter J. Holzer"
From: "Peter J. Holzer"
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2018-06-22 17:20:29 -0700, denis.akhiya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Either wait for IronPython 3.6, use COM intero
From: "Richard Damon"
From: Richard Damon
On 6/22/18 11:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:06:35 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:14:59 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>
>> The code page remark is curious. Will some "
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "wxjmfauth"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: wxjmfa...@gmail.com
Le vendredi 22 juin 2018 11:07:15 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a ─CcritΓ :
>
> C# <--> IronPython 2.7 <--> CPython 3.6
>
C# <--> IronPython 2.7.
It will not work. Coding of characters ! Try with IronPython 2.7.8.
From: "Chris Angelico"
From: Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:18:19 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Ah. Yeah, that would be a plausible feature to add to Python. But in C,
>> a static variable is basically the same thing as a glo
From: "Chris Angelico"
From: Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> For getting rid of the "len=len" trick, though, I would REALLY like to
> transform those into LOAD_CONST. That'd be a fun bytecode hack all on
> its own. In fact, I'm gonna have a shot at that.
From: "Steven D'Aprano"
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:06:35 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:14:59 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>
> The code page remark is curious. Will some "code pages" have digits
> that are not ASCII
From: "Steven D'Aprano"
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:18:19 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Ah. Yeah, that would be a plausible feature to add to Python. But in C,
> a static variable is basically the same thing as a global variable,
> except that its name is scoped to the functi
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "Ben Bacarisse"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: Ben Bacarisse
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:14:59 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
The code page remark is curious. Will some "code pages" have digits
that are not ASCII digits?
>>>
>>> Good que
To: Schachner, Joseph
From: "denis akhiyarov"
To: Schachner, Joseph
From: denis.akhiya...@gmail.com
Either wait for IronPython 3.6, use COM interop, pythonnet, subprocess, or
things like gRPC. Based on PyPy experience, it is probably 1-2 years of
sponsored development to get a working IronPy
From: Richard Damon
On 6/23/18 10:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 17:52:55 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> If you have more than just a number representing a value in the locale
>> currency, you can't ask the locale how to present/accept it.
> You're the only one saying that
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: "mm0fmf"
To: Steven D'Aprano
From: mm0fmf
On 22/06/2018 00:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:49:15 +0100, mm0fmf wrote:
>
> [snip unnecessary quoting]
>> Design requirements for python newsreader client:
>>
>> 1. Block all top posters
>
> I think
From: Richard Damon
On 6/24/18 3:02 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:37:33 +0100, Bart wrote:
>
>> I want to program in /my/ style
> Python is not Java, and Java is not Python either. Nor is it "Bart's
> Language", or C, or Forth, or Lisp, or bash.
>
> https://dirtsimple.org/20
To: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
From: Bart
On 24/06/2018 19:36, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> see for example
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bresenham%27s_line_algorithm
>
> see the pseudocode, i was implementing some raster algos when i found
> myself aux anges
>
> so close to py. i gues
From: Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:37:33 +0100, Bart wrote:
> I want to program in /my/ style
Python is not Java, and Java is not Python either. Nor is it "Bart's Language",
or C, or Forth, or Lisp, or bash.
https://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html
https://dirtsimple.
From: Terry Reedy
On 6/24/2018 11:39 AM, Bart wrote:
Bart, I agree that people should not dogpile onto you. As with Rick, I read
your posts or not, depending on whether I feel like being entertained at the
moment, and usually move on without comment.
> I know I'm going to get flak for bringing
From: Terry Reedy
On 6/24/2018 12:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Anyone on the Python-Dev mailing list, are you getting private emails
> containing nothing but stream of consciousness word-salad from somebody
> (some bot?) calling himself "Chanel Marvin" with a gmail address?
>
> Typical example
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 02:50:01 Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 24Jun2018 17:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >Greetings list;
> >
> >Generally spamassassin only gets picky about this occasionally, but
> > for the past several hours its working overtime on python list
> > messages, with the major problem b
On 26-06-18 14:47, Bart wrote:
>
> [About bitsets]
>
> Here's the set of characters allowed in a C identifier (not using
> Python syntax):
>
> cident = {'A'..'Z', 'a'..'z', '0'..'9', '_', '9'}
>
> The characters allowed in a hex constant:
>
> {'0'..'9', 'A'..'F', 'a'..'f'}
>
> A set representin
On 26/06/2018 12:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Bart wrote:
On 19/06/2018 11:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:19:15 +0100, Bart wrote:
* Integer sets (Pascal-like sets)
Why do you need them if you have real sets?
I tried Python sets for the
On 6/26/18 2:50 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 24Jun2018 17:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings list;
>>
>> Generally spamassassin only gets picky about this occasionally, but for
>> the past several hours its working overtime on python list messages,
>> with the major problem being the servers
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Bart wrote:
> On 19/06/2018 11:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:19:15 +0100, Bart wrote:
>
>
>> * Integer sets (Pascal-like sets)
>>
>> Why do you need them if you have real sets?
>
>
> I tried Python sets for the first time. They seemed work
On 19/06/2018 11:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:19:15 +0100, Bart wrote:
* Integer sets (Pascal-like sets)
Why do you need them if you have real sets?
I tried Python sets for the first time. They seemed workable but rather
clunky to set up. But here is one problem on my
On 26-06-18 12:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:04:16 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> On 26-06-18 11:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:20:38 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b = 2
> result = [value for key, v
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:04:16 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 26-06-18 11:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:20:38 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
def test():
a = 1
b = 2
result = [value for key, value in locals().items()] return result
>> [...]
>>
On 26 June 2018 at 11:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 26-06-18 11:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:20:38 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b = 2
> result = [value for key
On 26-06-18 12:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 26-06-18 11:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:20:38 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b = 2
> result = [value for key, value
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 26-06-18 11:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:20:38 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
def test():
a = 1
b = 2
result = [value for key, value in locals().items()]
return result
>> [..
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