On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> There are some historical and present-day facts that don't
> support that idea.
>
> * Software existed in the days before it became seen as
> something to be sold for money per-copy. Both computer
> companies and programmers seemed to to all
Chris Angelico wrote:
The bit you trimmed out was:
If the business model had always been "sell hardware, it comes fully
programmed", what would bring people to try to create third-party
software at all?
Maybe because they want to do things with the machine that
the manufacturer didn't antici
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Tamara Berger wrote:
> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >
> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> > ...
> python3 -m pip install pytest
>
> You need to enter this *single* line in the Terminal:
>
> sudo python3 -m
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:04:14 PM UTC-5, MRAB wrote:
>> The software is more like the fuel.
>
> How so?
>
> (01) Can energy be extracted from software?
Yes, absolutely.
> (02) If so, at what rate is software depleted as the hardware
>
subhaba...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have the following sentence,
>
> "Donald Trump is the president of United States of America".
>
> I am trying to extract the index 'of', not only for single but also
> for its multi-occurance (if they occur), from the list of words of the
> string, made by simply
Tamara Berger wrote:
I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> ...
python3 -m pip install pytest
You need to enter this *single* line in the Terminal:
sudo python3 -m pip install pytest
What does the "-m" stand for in the line of code?
It's a cmmand-line op
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:04:14 PM UTC-5, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-06-11 20:17, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
> > A dashboard is a horrible analogy. Software and hardware
> > are connected at the _hip_. A more correct analogy to
> > describe the relationship between computer hardware and
> > computer
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:03:59 +0100, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-06-11 20:17, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> You're trying to argue against my hypothetical statements about game
>>> publishing, and declaring that it's possible to use sof
On 11Jun2018 11:54, Tamara Berger wrote:
I did subscribe to the mailing list, but it opened the floodgates to a
torrent of irrelevant emails. I didn't know how to turn the flood off,
so I unsubscribed. How do I set the appropriate option?
My personal approach is to add a filter for list messag
I have the following sentence,
"Donald Trump is the president of United States of America".
I am trying to extract the index 'of', not only for single but also
for its multi-occurance (if they occur), from the list of words of the
string, made by simply splitting the sentence.
index1=[index for
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 03:43:43PM -0300, Markos wrote:
>
[...]
> As I prefer more stability than "updability" I will install the package:
>
> apt-get install python3-matplotlib
>
> Best Regards,
> Markos
Good choice IMHO. The "stable" in Debian is simply "supposed to work
without problem". Pac
On 2018-06-11 20:17, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
You're trying to argue against my hypothetical statements
about game publishing, and declaring that it's possible to
use software to encourage hardware sales. But my point was
that, abse
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:17 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> You're trying to argue against my hypothetical statements
>> about game publishing, and declaring that it's possible to
>> use software to encourage hardware sales. But m
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You're trying to argue against my hypothetical statements
> about game publishing, and declaring that it's possible to
> use software to encourage hardware sales. But my point was
> that, absent copyright and the ability to make
Em 08-06-2018 20:11, Jim Lee escreveu:
On 06/08/2018 11:54 AM, Markos wrote:
Hi,
I'm starting my studies with Python 3 on Debian 9 that I just installed.
I have to install the matplotlib module, but I am in doubt what is
the difference of the commands:
pip3 install matplotlib
or
apt-ge
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:03 PM, Gregory Ewing
> wrote:
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>
>>> You cannot, to
>>> my knowledge, publish a game for the PS4 or Xbox 360 without
>>> permission from Nintendo or Microsoft.
>>
>>
>> That's because, si
On 2018-06-11 16:54, Tamara Berger wrote:
I did subscribe to the mailing list, but it opened the floodgates to a
torrent of irrelevant emails. I didn't know how to turn the flood off,
so I unsubscribed. How do I set the appropriate option?
I was just going to post another message to google group
Steven D'Aprano:
It is not a guess if the user explicitly specifies that as the behaviour.
If that was the context, sure, no problem.
- Anders
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Apropos my earlier message:
Before I post a question, I search online for an answer. Though I try
all combinations of search terms, I get irrelevant results. Do you
have a suggestion on how to frame searches?
Tamara
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 4:32 AM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 10Jun2018 23:38, T
I did subscribe to the mailing list, but it opened the floodgates to a
torrent of irrelevant emails. I didn't know how to turn the flood off,
so I unsubscribed. How do I set the appropriate option?
I was just going to post another message to google groups. If you
don't mind, I'll ask you now.
I g
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:19:15 -0700, mohan4h wrote:
> print(u"\u001b[{}A".format(n), flush=True, end="")
> ^
> SyntaxError :invalid syntax
My crystal ball tell me you are using Python 2. Is that right?
--
Steven D'Aprano
"Ever since I learne
On 06/11/2018 04:19 PM, moha...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW i tried the code above, but i encountered a syntax error.
print(u"\u001b[{}A".format(n), flush=True, end="")
^
SyntaxError :invalid syntax
That's probably because you have been running
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:13:04 PM UTC+8, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 02:52:53PM +0200, Peter Otten wrote:
>
> > If the above hack works in the OP's environment it's certainly as easy as
> > it
> > can get; he just has to copy the up() and right() functions, and maybe
>
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 02:52:53PM +0200, Peter Otten wrote:
> If the above hack works in the OP's environment it's certainly as easy as it
> can get; he just has to copy the up() and right() functions, and maybe adapt
> the arguments.
>
> The learning curve for tkinter or curses is steep by co
On 11-06-18 13:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:55:06 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> On 11-06-18 02:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [...]
>>> open(foo) raises an exception if foo doesn't exist;
>>>
>>> os.path.exists(foo) returns False if foo doesn't exist.
>> That is not
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 02:14:26PM +0200, Peter Otten wrote:
>
>> >> print("1. Enter your name :")
>> >> print("2. Enter your age :")
>> >> print("3. Enter your gender :")
>> >> name = input("")
>> >> age = input("")
>> >> gender = input("")
>> >
>> > That doesn't solve
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 02:14:26PM +0200, Peter Otten wrote:
> >> print("1. Enter your name :")
> >> print("2. Enter your age :")
> >> print("3. Enter your gender :")
> >> name = input("")
> >> age = input("")
> >> gender = input("")
> >
> > That doesn't solve the "next to" part in
> >
> > get i
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:09 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2018-06-11 01:06:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:57:35 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> [Note: I was talking about os.stat here, not os.path.exists. I agree
> that os.path.exists (and the other boolean fun
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:16:39AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> > I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get input for the first
>> > question next to question as below.
>> >
>> > 1. Enter your name : _
>> > 2. Enter your age :
>> > 3. Enter your gender :
>
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:55:06 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 11-06-18 02:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
>> open(foo) raises an exception if foo doesn't exist;
>>
>> os.path.exists(foo) returns False if foo doesn't exist.
>
> That is not correct. The path can exist and os.path.exists st
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:16:39AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get input for the first
> > question next to question as below.
> >
> > 1. Enter your name : _
> > 2. Enter your age :
> > 3. Enter your gender :
> >
> > After showing the below pr
"Peter J. Holzer" :
> On 2018-06-11 01:06:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Baking a limitation of some file systems into the high-level
>> interface is simply a *bad idea*.
>
> We aren't talking about a high-level interface here.
Call it high-level or not, we *are* talking about an interface
(
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:44:19 -0700, mohan4h wrote:
> Everyone,
>
> I am very new to python. I am trying to achieve the below in it, but i
> am unable to find suitable documentation to guide me on the same.
>
> I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get input for the first
> question next
On 2018-06-11 01:06:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:57:35 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
[Note: I was talking about os.stat here, not os.path.exists. I agree
that os.path.exists (and the other boolean functions) should simply
return false]
> > I think this is worth keepin
On 11-06-18 10:35, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Antoon Pardon :
>> On 11-06-18 02:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> The *whole point* of o.p.exists is to return False, not raise an
>>> exception.
>> And the price is that it will not always give the correct answer.
> Yes, but that's still the point of the f
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 01:44:19AM -0700, moha...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am very new to python. I am trying to achieve the below in it, but i am
> unable to find suitable documentation to guide me on the same.
>
> I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get input for the first
> question n
Everyone,
I am very new to python. I am trying to achieve the below in it, but i am
unable to find suitable documentation to guide me on the same.
I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get input for the first question
next to question as below.
1. Enter your name : _
2. Enter your age
Antoon Pardon :
> On 11-06-18 02:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> The *whole point* of o.p.exists is to return False, not raise an
>> exception.
>
> And the price is that it will not always give the correct answer.
Yes, but that's still the point of the function's existence.
Marko
--
https://mail.
Barry Scott :
> I think the rule is, if python can pass the string faithfully to the
> OS, then do so, otherwise raise an exception that tells the programmer
> that they are doing something that the OS does not allow for.
Sure, but few application programmers would think of dealing with the
surpri
> On 11 Jun 2018, at 01:03, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:10:26 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> Can you try creating "spam:ham" and "spam/ham"? If they're both legal,
>>> I'd like to see what their file names
> On 11 Jun 2018, at 01:28, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:09:39 +0100, Barry Scott wrote:
>
>> Singling out os.path.exists as a special case I do think is reasonable.
>> All functions that take paths need to have a consistent response to data
>
> The *mere existence* o
On 10Jun2018 23:38, Tamara Berger wrote:
Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions. I didn't respond to your posts earlier
because I wasn't notified by email updates. I don't understand why they've
stopped coming. I didn't change any settings.
Maybe we haven't been CCing you directly, just post
On 11-06-18 02:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:09:39 +0100, Barry Scott wrote:
>
>> Singling out os.path.exists as a special case I do think is reasonable.
>> All functions that take paths need to have a consistent response to data
> The *mere existence* of os.path.exists means
Chris Angelico wrote:
You trimmed key parts of my post,
I don't get this "You trimmed my post!11!" complaint that
people make. Trimming a post when replying is the *right*
thing to do. Just because someone doesn't quote a certain
part of what you wrote, doesn't mean that they didn't read
it
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The evidence suggests that using the Carbon APIs, NUL is just another
Unicode character. Whatever API replaces Carbon, it will have to deal
with file names created under Carbon, and classic Mac, and so likely will
support the same.
Thsi raises the interesting quesion of
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Besides, it is certainly not true that there are no OSes that can deal
with NULs in file names. Classic Mac OS can, as filenames there are
represented as Pascal strings (a length byte followed by an array of
arbitrary bytes), not NUL-terminated C strings.
There's even a
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