Python - requests - forms - web scraping - how to deal with multi stage forms

2018-05-16 Thread kret . ca
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50383210/python-requests-how-to-post-few-stages-forms -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what does := means simply?

2018-05-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 17 May 2018 05:33:38 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > what does := proposes to do? Simply, it proposes to add a new operator := for assignment (or binding) as an expression, as an addition to the = assignment operator which operates only as a statement. The syntax is: name

Re: syntax oddities

2018-05-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 17 May 2018 05:25:44 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > weird, still not much traffic on this thread How many ways would you like us to answer the question? It is a FAQ: https://docs.python.org/3/faq/design.html Here's an older version: http://www.effbot.org/pyfaq/why-does-pytho

Re: why does list's .remove() does not return an object?

2018-05-16 Thread jladasky
On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 7:42:01 PM UTC-7, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > why is x = list.remove(elem) not return the list? > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer > https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ 1) If you are naming your list "list," you're asking for trouble. Shadowing builtin names is risky

Re: why does list's .remove() does not return an object?

2018-05-16 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/16/18 10:41 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: why is x = list.remove(elem) not return the list? Methods in Python usually do one of two things: 1) mutate the object and return None; or 2) leave the object alone and return a new object.  This helps make it clear which methods mutate and

why does list's .remove() does not return an object?

2018-05-16 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
why is x = list.remove(elem) not return the list? Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what does := means simply?

2018-05-16 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
meaning that's precisely what i'm asking for Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ On Thu, 17 May 2018, 05:45 Chris Angelico, wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer > wrote: > > what does := proposes to do? > > > > pep572 > > > > If you read th

Edge index problem

2018-05-16 Thread christysonia
Am trying to get the edge index of selected edges in polygon.. (Maya).. don't how to query and get the values. Pls help me to find out.. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what does := means simply?

2018-05-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > what does := proposes to do? > > pep572 > If you read the PEP, you'll find an answer to your question. https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0572/ ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

what does := means simply?

2018-05-16 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
what does := proposes to do? pep572 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: syntax oddities

2018-05-16 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
weird, still not much traffic on this thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ On Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:15 Tobiah, wrote: > Why is it len(object) instead of object.len? > > Why is it getattr(object, item) rather then object.getattr(item)? > > etc... > > > Thanks > -- > h

Re: Simplest way to clobber/replace one populated directory with another?

2018-05-16 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 15May2018 09:37, Travis Griggs wrote: I have a directory structure that might look something like: Data Current A B C Previous A X In as simple/quick a step as possible, I want to rename Current as Previous including t

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Friedrich Rentsch
On 05/16/2018 06:21 PM, Mike McClain wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 02:33:23PM +0200, Friedrich Rentsch wrote: I didn't know the site you mention. I've been getting quotes from Yahoo daily. The service they discontinued was for up to 50 symbols per page. I now parse a separate page of some 50

Re: Simplest way to clobber/replace one populated directory with another?

2018-05-16 Thread Michael F. Stemper
On 2018-05-15 11:37, Travis Griggs wrote: I have a directory structure that might look something like: Data Current A B C Previous A X In as simple/quick a step as possible, I want to rename Current as Previ

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 1:03 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 5/16/18 10:06 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:23:02 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> >>> I've also experimented with different ways to better say "everything is >>> an object". One possibility is, "any right-hand s

Re: syntax oddities

2018-05-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 15, 2018, 6:00 PM Steven D'Aprano < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Tue, 15 May 2018 12:10:07 -0700, Tobiah wrote: > > > Why is it len(object) instead of object.len? > > Because we're not serfs in the Kingdom of Nouns: > > https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/exec

Re: seeking deeper (language theory) reason behind Python design choice

2018-05-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:06 AM, bartc wrote: > On 16/05/2018 16:09, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018, 6:36 PM bartc wrote: >> >>> On 16/05/2018 01:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> I'm not a C coder, but I think that specific example would be immune to the bug we are discussin

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Mike McClain
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 02:33:23PM +0200, Friedrich Rentsch wrote: > > I didn't know the site you mention. I've been getting quotes from > Yahoo daily. The service they discontinued was for up to 50 symbols > per page. I now parse a separate page of some 500K of html for each > symbol! This site i

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Mike McClain
For Friedrich's, Peter's and the many other responses, many thanks. I will get a handle on python eventually and the many teachers on this list are making that easier. Mike -- "There are three kinds of men. The ones who learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to p

Re: seeking deeper (language theory) reason behind Python design choice

2018-05-16 Thread bartc
On 16/05/2018 16:09, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2018, 6:36 PM bartc wrote: On 16/05/2018 01:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'm not a C coder, but I think that specific example would be immune to the bug we are discussing, since (I think) you can't chain assignments in C. Am I right? Assi

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Brian Oney via Python-list
thank you for that tip. I missed that somehow... На 16 май 2018 г. 16:31:37 GMT+02:00, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> написа: >Friedrich Rentsch wrote: > >> >>> ibm = urllib2.urlopen >> ("https://api.iextrading.com/1.0/stock/IBM/quote";).read() >> >>> ibm = eval (ibm) > >Dont do this. You are al

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Chris Lindsay via Python-list
>It serves a naked set of data, which happens to conform to the python source code specification for dictionaries and consequently can be compiled into a dictionary with 'eval', like so: I would highly discourage any long-term usage (or any usage) of eval() in this sort of context. If iextrading

Re: seeking deeper (language theory) reason behind Python design choice

2018-05-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 15, 2018, 6:36 PM bartc wrote: > On 16/05/2018 01:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > I'm not a C coder, but I think that specific example would be immune to > > the bug we are discussing, since (I think) you can't chain assignments in > > C. Am I right? > > Assignments can be chained in

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/16/18 10:06 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:23:02 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote: I've also experimented with different ways to better say "everything is an object".  One possibility is, "any right-hand side of an assignment is an object," though that is a bit tortured. Wha

Re: seeking deeper (language theory) reason behind Python design choice

2018-05-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-05-16, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Tue, 15 May 2018 22:21:15 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >> >>> On 2018-05-15 00:52:42 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> [...] By 1991 there had already been *decades* of experience with C >>>

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Peter Otten
Friedrich Rentsch wrote: > >>> ibm = urllib2.urlopen > ("https://api.iextrading.com/1.0/stock/IBM/quote";).read() > >>> ibm = eval (ibm) Dont do this. You are allowing the guys at iextrading.com to execute arbitrary code on your machine. Use ibm = json.loads(ibm) instead or import

Re: seeking deeper (language theory) reason behind Python design choice

2018-05-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-16, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 15 May 2018 22:21:15 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > >> On 2018-05-15 00:52:42 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > [...] >>> By 1991 there had already been *decades* of experience with C >> >> About one and a half decades. > > That would still be plural

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:23:02 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote: > I've also experimented with different ways to better say "everything is > an object".  One possibility is, "any right-hand side of an assignment > is an object," though that is a bit tortured. What if there's no assignment? > Now I'm th

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Paul Moore
On 16 May 2018 at 14:23, Ned Batchelder wrote: > I've also experimented with different ways to better say "everything is an > object". One possibility is, "any right-hand side of an assignment is an > object," though that is a bit tortured. C++ called that an "rvalue". And then went on to defin

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/16/18 3:17 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:03:22 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: So, no, I think the more useful – and less problematic – framing is that every object *has* a value, and mutable objects may change to a different value while remaining the same object. What's an o

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Friedrich Rentsch wrote: > > > On 05/16/2018 02:23 AM, Mike McClain wrote: >> >> Initially I got my quotes from a broker daily to plug into a >> spreadsheet, Then I found Yahoo and wrote a perl script to grab them. >> When Yahoo quit supplying quotes I found A

Re: stock quotes off the web, py style

2018-05-16 Thread Friedrich Rentsch
On 05/16/2018 02:23 AM, Mike McClain wrote: Initially I got my quotes from a broker daily to plug into a spreadsheet, Then I found Yahoo and wrote a perl script to grab them. When Yahoo quit supplying quotes I found AlphaVantage.co and rewrote the perl script. AlphaVantage.co has been

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:03:22 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > So, no, I think the more useful – and less problematic – framing is that > every object *has* a value, and mutable objects may change to a > different value while remaining the same object. What's an object? That's not a rhetorical question

Re: object types, mutable or not?

2018-05-16 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:30:26 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > An object is not a value; an object *has* a value. The object > > retains its identity even when its value changes. > > Here you have hit on the crux of the matter. Why cannot both > statements be true? The abo