Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Ned Batchelder : > On 11/8/17 3:05 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> If someone's postings constantly frustrate you, simply place them in >> your killfile. I've done that to people. People have done that to me. > > Tolerating bad behavior and advising people to cope by kill-filing is > terrible advice.

Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Ben Finney
Ned Batchelder writes: > On 11/10/17 6:03 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > Ned Batchelder writes: > >> Beyond just respect and compassion, this discussion has mentioned > >> "changing people's minds" a few times.  How's that going? > > Impressively well, in my opinion. > > It seems to me that Steve has

Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/10/17 6:03 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Ned Batchelder writes: On 11/8/17 10:18 PM, Ben Finney wrote: What has been made clear to me is that we have a long way to go in pursuit of allowing ideas to be held at arm's length, discussed and criticised, with respect and compassion for one another.

Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Ben Finney
Ned Batchelder writes: > On 11/8/17 10:18 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > What has been made clear to me is that we have a long way to go in > > pursuit of allowing ideas to be held at arm's length, discussed and > > criticised, with respect and compassion for one another. > > Indeed.  Beyond just resp

Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/8/17 10:18 PM, Ben Finney wrote: How many paragraphs of close parsing are we going to twist ourselves through, just to avoid saying, "Yeah, sorry, that went a bit far.  I didn't want to alienate you in the pursuit of a demonstration of my own correctness." I don't have any aim of avoiding

Re: Ideas about how software should behave

2017-11-10 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/8/17 3:05 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Jon Ribbens : It is my experience of this group/list that if one disagrees with any of you, Steve and Chris, you all rally round and gang up on that person to insult and belittle them. This makes the atmosphere quite hostile, and it would be quite remark

Re: What is the future of the PEP 467?

2017-11-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Kirill Balunov wrote: > What is the future of the PEP 467 ("Minor API improvements for binary > sequences")? It was not accepted and was not rejected, although there was a > rather active discussion. I don't know. This is probably a question for python-dev. > In

What is the future of the PEP 467?

2017-11-10 Thread Kirill Balunov
What is the future of the PEP 467 ("Minor API improvements for binary sequences")? It was not accepted and was not rejected, although there was a rather active discussion. In addition to what is stated in the PEP, I would like to know your opinion on the additional issue: At present, the repr() an

Re: import issues python3.4

2017-11-10 Thread Matt Wheeler
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 at 15:58 Heli wrote: > Is there anyway I can run my external script without changing the absolute > path from (1) to (2) in my code. > I would recommend using tox [0] to run your test script, and setting up an entry point in your `setup.py` [1] so that your `main` command is "

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