On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:45:09 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes:
>> Is Python 2 the Windows XP of the programming world?
>
> That's a good way to put it. It's nice to hear about Instagram but so
> far I don't personally know anyone who uses Python 3.
Funny about that, I don
Cem Karan writes:
> Can you give examples of how it's not reliable?
Basically there's a chance of it leaking memory by mistaking a data word
for a pointer. This is unlikely to happen by accident and usually
inconsequential if it does happen, but maybe there could be malicious
data that makes it
Chris Angelico writes:
> Or let's look at it a different way. Instead of using a PyObject* in C
> code, you could write C++ code that uses a trivial wrapper class that
> holds the pointer, increments its refcount on construction, and
> decrements that refcount on destruction.
That's the C++ STL s
Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes:
> Is Python 2 the Windows XP of the programming world?
That's a good way to put it. It's nice to hear about Instagram but so
far I don't personally know anyone who uses Python 3. Meanwhile there's
still lots of new Py2 projects being started.
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On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Saw this this morning
> https://medium.com/@alexdixon/functional-programming-in-javascript-is-an-antipattern-58526819f21e
>
> May seem irrelevant to this, but if JS, FP is replaced by Python, GC it
> becomes
> more on topical
https://rhetting
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 5:53:00 AM UTC+5:30, Cem Karan wrote:
> On Jun 19, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>
> > Ethan Furman wrote:
> >> Let me ask a different question: How much effort is required at the C
> >> level when using tracing garbage collection?
> >
> > That depends on t
On Jun 19, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Ethan Furman wrote:
>> Let me ask a different question: How much effort is required at the C level
>> when using tracing garbage collection?
>
> That depends on the details of the GC implementation, but often
> you end up swapping one form o
Ethan Furman wrote:
Let me ask a different question: How much effort is required at the C
level when using tracing garbage collection?
That depends on the details of the GC implementation, but often
you end up swapping one form of boilerplate (maintaining ref
counts) for another (such as makin
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Skip Montanaro
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
>
>> Programming at the C level is not working in Python, and many Python
>> niceties simply don't exist there.
>
>
> True, but a lot of functionality available to Python programmers exi
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I'm working on a project ( https://github.com/NJDFan/register-maps
http://register-maps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ ) and running into some
issues with overall project structure and documentation.
The project is a code generator that reads in a set of proprietary
format XML files and uses them t
On 06/19/2017 08:44 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Programming at the C level is not working in Python, and many Python niceties
simply don't exist there.
True, but a lot of functionality available to Python programmers exists at the
extensi
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Programming at the C level is not working in Python, and many Python
> niceties simply don't exist there.
True, but a lot of functionality available to Python programmers exists at
the extension module level, whether delivered as part of t
On 06/19/2017 08:06 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Reference counting is a valid garbage collecting mechanism, therefore Python is
also a GC language.
Garbage collection is usually thought of as a way to remove responsibility for
tracking of
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Reference counting is a valid garbage collecting mechanism, therefore
> Python is also a GC language.
Garbage collection is usually thought of as a way to remove responsibility
for tracking of live data from the user. Reference counting doe
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 7:40:49 PM UTC+5:30, Robin Becker wrote:
> On 19/06/2017 01:20, Paul Rubin wrote:
> ...
> > the existing C API quite seriously. Reworking the C modules in the
> > stdlib would be a large but not impossible undertaking. The many
> > external C modules out there woul
On 06/19/2017 07:10 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
I have always found the management of reference counts to be one of the hardest
things about the C api. I'm not sure
exactly how C extensions would/should interact with a GC python. There seem to be
different approaches eg lua & go are
both GC langu
On 19/06/2017 01:20, Paul Rubin wrote:
...
the existing C API quite seriously. Reworking the C modules in the
stdlib would be a large but not impossible undertaking. The many
external C modules out there would be more of an issue.
I have always found the management of reference counts to b
Yes i did installed teradata odbc driver .
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 22:57:22 -0400, mradul dhakad
> declaimed the following:
>
> > File "C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\teradata\tdodbc.py", line 391, in
> > determineDriver
> > "Availabl
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:02 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> With a list? No, I would say it's a bad idea.
>>
>>
>> Why a bad idea?
>>
>> As opposed to "can't be done", or "too hard and slow".
>
> Maintaining a record of list indices i
Hi all,
Is there on line course in Python? I am looking for a level between beginner
and intermediate. I would appreciate if you could suggest me?
Thank you.
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