Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Erik wrote: > I doubt it's getting that far (I can see at least one syntax error in the > code pasted). True true. In any case, the point is to copy and paste the error message. Callum, please, copy and paste it. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

Erik wrote, on January 03, 2017 3:30 PM > To: python-list@python.org > Subject: Re: Clickable hyperlinks > > Hi. > > On 03/01/17 19:46, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > Excel has a formula: > > When you start a new topic on the list, could you please write a new > message rather than replying to an exist

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I

On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted resources consumption and the unnecessary icons. You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less li

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:04 pm, Callum Robinson wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "D:/Python/random.py", line 6, in > computer_number = number.randint(1, 100) > NameError: name 'number' is not defined That's exactly what we need to see! The full traceback, thank you! You're

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On 04/01/17 00:32, Callum Robinson wrote: > I forgot a bloody bracket xD Cool, you got it ;) It's the sort of thing your brain will see instantly once you've done it a few times :D > and now theirs a new error ill try to figure this out on my own. You need to look back to Chris's original reply

Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

Im doing a new task from my teacher but i can't seem to find what is wrong with this code. Can anyone help? #mynumber.py # this game uses a home made function import random #think of a number computer_number = number.randint(1,100) #create the function is_same() def is_same(target, number:

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:26:26 PM UTC+13, Erik wrote: > Hi Callum, > > On 04/01/17 00:02, Callum Robinson wrote: > > When i check the code it comes up with invalid syntax and my writing > line gets re directed here > > > > def is_same(target, number: > > if target == number: >

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

When i check the code it comes up with invalid syntax and my writing line gets re directed here def is_same(target, number: if target == number: result="win" elif target > number: result="low" else: result="high" return result -

Re: Simulating int arithmetic with wrap-around

Steve D'Aprano writes: > Again, assume both operands are in range for an N-bit signed integer. What's > a good way to efficiently, or at least not too inefficiently, do the > calculations in Python? My first thought is towards the struct module, especially if you want to handle a bunch of such i

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:32 am, Deborah Swanson wrote: > The GUI consoles I have are in Pycharm, the IDLE that comes with > Anaconda, and Spyder. PyCharm and IDLE both ask for internet access when > I open them, so they're capable of opening links, but whether that means > their output space is capa

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:02:15 -0800 (PST), Callum Robinson declaimed the following: >When i check the code it comes up with invalid syntax and my writing line gets re directed here > >def is_same(target, number: >if target == number: >result="win" >elif target > number:

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > The problem here is not so much the use of try...except but the *intention* > that "Anything whatsoever should be coerced to int". If you have something > like: > > left_margin = int_or_else(ftp_server) > > that's surely a programming error

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

Erik wrote, on January 03, 2017 3:45 PM > > Hi, > > On 03/01/17 22:14, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > ...you have to create the generator object first and use it to call > > the next function. And I really don't think you can use a > generator as > > your range in a for loop. So I'd use a 'while True',

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:49 AM, wrote: > Im doing a new task from my teacher but i can't seem to find what is wrong with this code. Can anyone help? > > #mynumber.py > # this game uses a home made function > import random > > #think of a number > computer_number = number.randint(1,100) What's w

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On 01/03/2017 02:47 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: >> Aside from calling "except Exception" a "naked except" > > If you read the comments, you'll see that he originally had an actual > bare except clause, but then improved the code somewhat in respo

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

Hi Callum, On 04/01/17 00:02, Callum Robinson wrote: > When i check the code it comes up with invalid syntax and my writing line gets re directed here > > def is_same(target, number: > if target == number: > result="win" > elif target > number: > resu

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:09 am, Ethan Furman wrote: > And, of course, whether or not "except Exception" is too broad depends on > the use-case. I'm having trouble thinking of *any* use-case where this would be useful. His intention, it seems, is to write a function which simply cannot fail, presum

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On 03/01/17 23:05, Deborah Swanson wrote: > And yes, we usually used for loops for generators, unless you don't know > when the generator will be exhausted. As in this case, where the number > of files the generator can provide is unknown. Then we used the while > True, break on StopIteration metho

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:17:11 PM UTC+13, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Erik wrote: > > I doubt it's getting that far (I can see at least one syntax error in the > > code pasted). > > True true. In any case, the point is to copy and paste the error > message. C

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-03 11:46, Deborah Swanson wrote: > Excel has a formula: > > =HYPERLINK(url,description) > > that will put a clickable link into a cell. > > Does python have an equivalent function? Probably the most common > use for it would be output to the console, similar to a print > statement, but c

Re: Hey, I'm new to python so don't judge.

On 03/01/17 23:56, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:49 AM, wrote: >> #think of a number >> computer_number = number.randint(1,100) > > What's wrong is that you aren't showing us the exception you get on > this line. *Copy and paste* that exception - the whole thing. It's > very h

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

Hi, On 03/01/17 22:14, Deborah Swanson wrote: > ...you have to create the generator object first and use it to call the > next function. And I really don't think you can use a generator as your > range in a for loop. So I'd use a 'while True', and break out of the > loop when you hit the StopItera

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

Grant Edwards wrote, on January 03, 2017 3:13 PM > > On 2017-01-03, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > > I'm sorry, I should have said a GUI console because I > wouldn't expect > > a text-based console to produce clickable links. > > What's a "GUI console"? > > -- > Grant Edwards grant.b.edw

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Hi. On 03/01/17 19:46, Deborah Swanson wrote: > Excel has a formula: When you start a new topic on the list, could you please write a new message rather than replying to an existing message and changing the title/subject? For those reading the list in a threaded email client, this message is sh

Re: Cleaning up conditionals

"Deborah Swanson" writes: > I'm still wondering if these 4 lines can be collapsed to one or two > lines. In the trade that's what we call a "code smell", a sign that code (even if it works) should probably be re-thought after taking a step back to understand what it is really trying to do. Wha

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

-Original Message- From: Matt Wheeler [mailto:m...@funkyhat.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:47 PM To: pyt...@deborahswanson.net; Sayth Renshaw; python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 20:17 Deborah Swanson wrote: > What's the

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

Chris Angelico wrote, on January 03, 2017 2:31 PM > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Deborah Swanson > wrote: > > while True: > > try: > > file = files.next() > > except StopIteration: > > break > > Small side point: Try to avoid calling a generator object's > .next() method directly.

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 09:47 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: >> Aside from calling "except Exception" a "naked except" > > If you read the comments, you'll see that he originally had an actual > bare except clause, but then improved the code somewhat in

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

Terry Reedy > > On 1/3/2017 3:53 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > >> I think you're expecting > >> > >>for file in rootobs > >> > >> to get the next yield for you from rootobs, but unless someone > >> corrects me, I don't think you can expect a 'for' statement to do > >> that. You need to have a

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > Ok, I learned how to use generators in Python 2.7.8, which may be > different from Python 3 for generators. But I learned from MIT's online > introduction to python course, and they certainly seem to know python > well. So what is the corre

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > while True: > try: > file = files.next() > except StopIteration: > break Small side point: Try to avoid calling a generator object's .next() method directly. Normally, when you _do_ want to do this, you should be calling next(

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-03, Deborah Swanson wrote: > I'm sorry, I should have said a GUI console because I wouldn't expect a > text-based console to produce clickable links. What's a "GUI console"? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I want you to MEMORIZE

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On 1/3/2017 3:53 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: >> I think you're expecting >> >> for file in rootobs >> >> to get the next yield for you from rootobs, but unless >> someone corrects me, I don't think you can expect a 'for' >> statement to do that. You need to have a 'next' statement >> inside yo

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On 01/03/2017 01:41 PM, breamore...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, I'd suggest that this [1] is not one of the greatest articles > ever written about Python exception handling. Other opinions are welcome. Aside from calling "except Exception" a "naked except" I think it's decent. He walks through

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 21:46 Matt Wheeler wrote: > range() is not part of the for syntax at all, it's completely separate, it > simply returns an iterator which the for loop can use, like any other. > *iterable -- -- Matt Wheeler http://funkyh.at -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Aside from calling "except Exception" a "naked except" If you read the comments, you'll see that he originally had an actual bare except clause, but then improved the code somewhat in response to a recommendation that SystemExit etc not be c

Re: How Best to Coerce Python Objects to Integers?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:41 AM, wrote: > Hi all, I'd suggest that this http://blog.pyspoken.com/2017/01/02/how-best-to -coerce-python-objects-to-integers/ is not one of the greatest articles ever written about Python exception handling. Other opinions are welcome. > """ So there you have it. Iâ

Re: Screwing Up looping in Generator

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 20:17 Deborah Swanson wrote: > > What's the code for your generator? And I don't see where you > > call 'next'. > > I think you're expecting > > for file in rootobs > > to get the next yield for you from rootobs, but unless someone corrects > me, I don't think you ca

RE: Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Devin Jeanpierre wrote, on January 03, 2017 12:57 PM >Sadly, no. :( Consoles (and stdout) are just text, not hypertext. The way to >make an URL clickable is to use a terminal that makes URLs clickable, and >print the URL: > > >print("%s: %s" % (description, url)) > > > > >-- Devin I'm sorry, I s

Re: pip install -r requirements.txt fails with Python 3.6 on Windows

On 1/3/2017 3:07 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > What are the reasons to upgrade Python to 3.6? The same as for any new version: New features -- see What's New in 3.6. New bug fixes. New performance improvements. Reasons against: The effort to make sure all dependencies are available for 3.6* Possibl

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

> > > Sayth Renshaw wrote, on January 03, 2017 6:54 AM > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > This is simple, but its getting me confused. > > > > > > > > I have a csv writer that opens a file and loops each line of the > > > > file for each file and then closes, writing one file. > > > > > > > > I wa

RE: Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Keeping mind how this all works... Python is providing the data, the console/terminal/app handles how that data is displayed. There is no specification for text output to be hyperlinked (that I know about at least), so while some apps may handle specific coding to tell them that "this text sho

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

The best bet (unless you know that you are outputting to a specific place, like html or excel) is to always include the "https://"; or "http://"; since most of the consoles / terminals that support clickable links are parsing them based on "seeing" the initial "http://";. If your output just lo

Clickable hyperlinks

Excel has a formula: =HYPERLINK(url,description) that will put a clickable link into a cell. Does python have an equivalent function? Probably the most common use for it would be output to the console, similar to a print statement, but clickable. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Sadly, no. :( Consoles (and stdout) are just text, not hypertext. The way to make an URL clickable is to use a terminal that makes URLs clickable, and print the URL: print("%s: %s" % (description, url)) -- Devin On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > Excel has a formula:

Re: pip install -r requirements.txt fails with Python 3.6 on Windows

Thank you, I'll consider to update our requirements to latest versions of all packages. Last time I checked in 22th December 2016 and all our requirements were the latest versions. In the meantime we can keep using Python 3.5. By the way, Travis CI tests passed with the same requirements and Pyt

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

> > Sayth Renshaw wrote, on January 03, 2017 6:54 AM > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > This is simple, but its getting me confused. > > > > > > I have a csv writer that opens a file and loops each line of the > > > file for each file and then closes, writing one file. > > > > > > I want to alter the behav

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

Sayth Renshaw wrote, on January 03, 2017 6:54 AM > > Hi > > This is simple, but its getting me confused. > > I have a csv writer that opens a file and loops each line of > the file for each file and then closes, writing one file. > > I want to alter the behaviour to be a written file for each > inp

RE: Numpy error

> ImportError: > /home/conrado/Canopy/appdata/canopy-1.5.5.3123.rh5-x86_64/lib/ > libgfortran.so.3: > version `GFORTRAN_1.4' not found (required by /lib64/liblapack.so.3) Looks like you need to install the 'GFORTRAN_1.4' plugin into Canopy. I don't know where you'll find it, but Canopy's main web

RE: Screwing Up looping in Generator

> Sayth Renshaw wrote, on January 03, 2017 6:54 AM > > > > Hi > > > > This is simple, but its getting me confused. > > > > I have a csv writer that opens a file and loops each line of > > the file for each file and then closes, writing one file. > > > > I want to alter the behaviour to be a written

Re: Forcing prompt to be on newline when embedding Python with stdin/out redirection

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:06 AM, H Krishnan wrote: > I tried replacing sys.displayhook with a function that does not print > newline but the newline still got inserted. So, I am not sure where the > newline is coming from. In any case, I could override sys.displayhook to add > a newline at the end

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 11:53:51 PM UTC, Victor Porton wrote: > Ionut Predoiu wrote: > > > I am a beginner in programming language. > > I want to know what version of Python I must to learn to use, beside of > > basic language, because I want to integrate in my site 1 page in which > > use

Re: Forcing prompt to be on newline when embedding Python with stdin/out redirection

Thanks for your help. > > > > > I am working on embedding Python in my application. > > You forgot to tell us the version of Python that you're embedding. > > I am using Python2.7. > > I have redirected sys.stdin and sys.stdout to call methods from a Qt > TextEdit > > widget. Everything works fi

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

On 01/05/2017 05:57 AM, Ionut Predoiu wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I am a beginner in programming language. I want to know what version > of Python I must to learn to use, beside of basic language, because I > want to integrate in my site 1 page in which users to can made > calculus based on my fo

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

On 01/05/2017 04:53 PM, Victor Porton wrote: > Ionut Predoiu wrote: > >> I am a beginner in programming language. >> I want to know what version of Python I must to learn to use, beside of >> basic language, because I want to integrate in my site 1 page in which >> users to can made calculus based

Re: Forcing prompt to be on newline when embedding Python with stdin/out redirection

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:09 AM, H Krishnan wrote: > > I am working on embedding Python in my application. You forgot to tell us the version of Python that you're embedding. > I have redirected sys.stdin and sys.stdout to call methods from a Qt TextEdit > widget. Everything works fine except that

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

Ionut Predoiu wrote: > I am a beginner in programming language. > I want to know what version of Python I must to learn to use, beside of > basic language, because I want to integrate in my site 1 page in which > users to can made calculus based on my formulas already write behind (the > users wil

Re: MySQL schema sync or diff

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Charles Heizer wrote: > I have a MySQL database that is not managed (yet) and I would like to get an > output or diff against my new model file. I'm using flask-sqlalchemy. > > Are there any modules that would help me discover the differences so that I > can scri

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

Rhodri James wrote, on January 05, 2017 3:53 AM > > On 05/01/17 04:52, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > My original question was in fact whether there was a way to make > > clickable hyperlinks in a console. I was persuaded after about 10 > > replies that the answer was no, > > Then you were persuade

Re: Work between multiple processes

On 4-1-2017 23:14, zxpat...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I ran into a case that I need to create a work process of an application > (Jython so has to call using java.exe) which will collect the data based on > what main process indicates. > > (1) I tried multiprocessing package, no luck

RE: Clickable hyperlinks

Terry Reedy wrote, on January 04, 2017 10:18 PM > > On 1/5/2017 12:11 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > > Terry Reedy wrote, on January 04, 2017 3:58 PM > > >> To have a string interpreted as a clickable link, you send the string to > >> software capable of creating a clickable link, plus the informat

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark > wrote: >> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say >> windows. >> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed. >> Atom, loved it until it slowed down. >> VIM, ok the best if you know vi inside out. >>

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Chris Clark : > I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say > windows. I use emacs for all of my typing, including Python programming (and making this post). Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Have you looked into Visual Studio Code (https://code.visualstudio.com/)? I've not used it extensively, and only on Windows, but it's an open source IDE originated by MS that purportedly works on Windows, Linux & OS X. It does have pretty decent Python support (haven't tried debugging, but syntax

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say windows. Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed. Atom, loved it until it slowed down. VIM, ok the best if you know vi inside out. Any JAVA based IDE, just slows up on work PC's due to all the background

[ANN] aioxmpp 0.7.2 released

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Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor should I use. This can be overwhelming. So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ with Python plugin. The thing with the from-the-sc

Forcing prompt to be on newline when embedding Python with stdin/out redirection

Hi, I am working on embedding Python in my application. I have redirected sys.stdin and sys.stdout to call methods from a Qt TextEdit widget. Everything works fine except that the Python prompt does not always come in a new line: >>> dir() ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', '__package__']>>>

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

I recommend starting with Python 3, I also use it (3.5.2) for my Django projects - Speedy Net and Speedy Match. Uri. *Uri Even-Chen* [image: photo] Phone: +972-54-3995700 Email: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedysoftware.com/uri/en/

Re: Python for WEB-page !?

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Ionut Predoiu wrote: > I am a beginner in programming language. > I want to know what version of Python I must to learn to use, beside of basic > language, because I want to integrate in my site 1 page in which users to can > made calculus based on my formulas al

Re: Is there a good process or library for validating changes to XML format?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:02:38 AM UTC+5:30, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Afternoon > > Is there a good library or way I could use to check that the author of the > XML doc I am using doesn't make small changes to structure over releases? > > Not fully over this with XML but thought that XSD m

Python for WEB-page !?

Good afternoon, I am a beginner in programming language. I want to know what version of Python I must to learn to use, beside of basic language, because I want to integrate in my site 1 page in which users to can made calculus based on my formulas already write behind (the users will only comp

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 05/01/17 04:52, Deborah Swanson wrote: My original question was in fact whether there was a way to make clickable hyperlinks in a console. I was persuaded after about 10 replies that the answer was no, Then you were persuaded wrong; the actual answer was "this isn't a meaningful question si

Re: Is there a good process or library for validating changes to XML format?

It definitely has more features than i knew http://xmlsoft.org/xmllint.html Essentially thigh it appears to be aimed at checking validity and compliance of xml. I why to check the structure of 1 xml file against the previous known structure to ensure there are no changes. Cheers Sayth -- http

Re: Is there a good process or library for validating changes to XML format?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:02:38 AM UTC+5:30, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Afternoon > > Is there a good library or way I could use to check that the author of the > XML doc I am using doesn't make small changes to structure over releases? > > Not fully over this with XML but thought that XSD m