warnings filters for varying message

2013-06-27 Thread John Reid
Looking at the docs for warnings.simplefilter (http://docs.python.org/2/library/warnings.html) I think the following script should only produce one warning at each line as any message is matched by the simple filter import warnings warnings.simplefilter('default') for i in xrange(2): warnings.

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Andrew Berg
I appreciate the responses from everyone. I knew I couldn't be the only who thought this behavior was unnecessarily limiting. I found a ticket on the bug tracker. A patch was even submitted, but obviously it didn't make it into 3.3. Hopefully, it will make it into 3.4 with some prodding. http://

Re: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread Jason Friedman
> I was hoping to have a good laugh. :| > > Although I wouldn't call it hostile. > > I think the python community is being educated in how to spam and troll at > the same time. > It is possible the OP has a mental disease, which is about as funny as heart disease and cancer and not blameworthy.

Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework

2013-06-27 Thread Νίκος
Στις 28/6/2013 2:08 πμ, ο/η Cameron Simpson έγραψε: On 27Jun2013 16:32, Νίκος wrote: | a) keep my existing Python cgi way that embed print ''' statements | within python code to displays mostly tables? I'd argue against this approach. Like hand constructing SQL, this is rife with opportunity to

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Jason Swails
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-06-28 09:02, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > On 27Jun2013 11:50, Ethan Furman wrote: > > | If the OP is writing an interactive shell, shouldn't `cmd` be used > > | instead of `argparse`? argparse is, after all, intended for > > | argument pa

Re: SQL code generation from table-free boolean queries?

2013-06-27 Thread alex23
On 27/06/2013 9:17 AM, Foo Stack wrote: Given string input such as: foo=5 AND a=6 AND date=now OR date='2013/6' AND bar='hello' I am going to implement: - boolean understanding (which operator takes precendence) - spliting off of attributes into my function which computes their table in th

Re: Running programs on mobile phones

2013-06-27 Thread alex23
On 28/06/2013 1:11 AM, Mok-Kong Shen wrote: Could one write Python codes and have them run on one's own mobile phone? If yes, are there some good literatures? Thanks in advance. Kivy is a well-documented & multi-platform approach to doing this: http://kivy.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-06-28 09:02, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 27Jun2013 11:50, Ethan Furman wrote: > | If the OP is writing an interactive shell, shouldn't `cmd` be used > | instead of `argparse`? argparse is, after all, intended for > | argument parsing of command line scripts, not for interactive > work. >

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 27 June 2013 22:30, Jason Swails wrote: > > An alternative is, of course, to simply subclass ArgumentParser and copy > over all of the code that catches an ArgumentError to eliminate the internal > exception handling and instead allow them to propagate the call stack. I would think it easier t

Re: What is the semantics meaning of 'object'?

2013-06-27 Thread alex23
On 26/06/2013 9:19 AM, Mark Janssen wrote: Did you ever hear of the Glass Bead Game? Which was Hesse's condemnation of the pure-academic-understanding-unbound-by-pragmatic-use approach as mental masturbation, _not_ a recommendation for how human knowledge should work. If you think otherwise,

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Jun2013 22:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: | [rant] | I think it is lousy design for a framework like argparse to raise a | custom ArgumentError in one part of the code, only to catch it elsewhere | and call sys.exit. At the very least, that ought to be a config option, | and off by default. |

Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework

2013-06-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Jun2013 16:32, Νίκος wrote: | a) keep my existing Python cgi way that embed print ''' statements | within python code to displays mostly tables? I'd argue against this approach. Like hand constructing SQL, this is rife with opportunity to make syntax errors, either outright by mistyping HTML

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Jun2013 11:50, Ethan Furman wrote: | If the OP is writing an interactive shell, shouldn't `cmd` be used | instead of `argparse`? argparse is, after all, intended for | argument parsing of command line scripts, not for interactive work. This is specious. I invoke command line scripts intera

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:02:22 -0400, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/27/2013 09:49 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: >> On 2013.06.27 08:08, Roy Smith wrote: >>> Can you give us a concrete example of what you're trying to do? >> The actual code I've written so far isn't easily condensed into a short >> simple snipp

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-06-27, Jason Swails wrote: > >> He _is_ using cmd. He's subclassed cmd.Cmd and trying to use >> argparse to handle argument parsing in the Cmd.precmd method to >> preprocess the user input. > > [...] > >> Having subclassed cmd.Cmd m

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-06-27, Jason Swails wrote: > He _is_ using cmd. He's subclassed cmd.Cmd and trying to use > argparse to handle argument parsing in the Cmd.precmd method to > preprocess the user input. [...] > Having subclassed cmd.Cmd myself in one of my programs and written my > own argument parsing

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Jason Swails
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > > If the OP is writing an interactive shell, shouldn't `cmd` be used instead > of `argparse`? argparse is, after all, intended for argument parsing of > command line scripts, not for interactive work. > He _is_ using cmd. He's subclassed c

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-06-27 17:02, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/27/2013 09:49 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2013.06.27 08:08, Roy Smith wrote: Can you give us a concrete example of what you're trying to do? The actual code I've written so far isn't easily condensed into a short simple snippet. I'm trying to use argp

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/27/2013 11:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/27/2013 2:18 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/27/2013 02:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/27/2013 8:54 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to parse input from the user. I thought the argparse mod

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/27/2013 2:18 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/27/2013 02:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/27/2013 8:54 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be great for this, It is outside

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/27/2013 02:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/27/2013 8:54 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be great for this, It is outside argparse's intended domain of applicatio

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/27/2013 8:54 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be great for this, It is outside argparse's intended domain of application -- parsing command line arguments. The gr

Re: 回复: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread woooee
Any programming language is only as good as the person who is using it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python ZeldaII sequel - mapeditor

2013-06-27 Thread elvish . healer
Scuzzy, the links are : http://github.com/zork9/pygame-pyLevelMaker and http://github.com/zork9/pygame-pyZeldaII You can download them with git. Screenshots of the level editor can be found on my blog, see sig. TW -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python ZeldaII sequel - mapeditor

2013-06-27 Thread Turtle Wizard
Hi all, I made a simple map editor for using in pyZeldaII overworld maps, it's fastly written. You can download it here : http://github.com/pygame-pyLevelMaker pyZeldaII can be found here : http://github.com/pygame-pyZeldaII Enjoy, Turtle Wizard -- Time heals. my blog : http://thediaryofelvis

Re: class factory question

2013-06-27 Thread Tim
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:56:24 AM UTC-4, Irmen de Jong wrote: > On 27-6-2013 15:48, Dave Angel wrote: > >> The behavior for these is all the same so they're subclassed > >> from one base class, but they need to have these particular names so the > >> parser knows > >> how to consume them whe

Re: Devnagari Unicode Conversion Issues

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/27/2013 11:39 AM, darpan6aya wrote: That worked out. I was trying to encode it the entire time. Now I realise how silly I am. Thanks MRAB. Once Again. :D you're not silly, it's a complex question. MRAB is good at guessing which part is messing you up. However, when you're writing a

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/27/2013 09:49 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2013.06.27 08:08, Roy Smith wrote: Can you give us a concrete example of what you're trying to do? The actual code I've written so far isn't easily condensed into a short simple snippet. I'm trying to use argparse to handle all the little details o

Re: Running programs on mobile phones

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/27/2013 11:11 AM, Mok-Kong Shen wrote: Could one write Python codes and have them run on one's own mobile phone? If yes, are there some good literatures? Thanks in advance. M. K. Shen I've not tried it, but that's what QPython is supposed to do. http://qpython.com/ -- DaveA -- http:

Re: class factory question

2013-06-27 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 27-6-2013 15:48, Dave Angel wrote: >> The behavior for these is all the same so they're subclassed >> from one base class, but they need to have these particular names so the >> parser knows >> how to consume them when encountered in the source file. That is, for every >> custom >> command t

Re: How to make a web framework

2013-06-27 Thread rusi
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:44:36 PM UTC+5:30, Fábio Santos wrote: > On 27 Jun 2013 14:49, wrote: > > I've used web frameworks, but I don't know how they work. Is there anywhere > > that I can learn how this all works from scratch? > Write CGI scripts. It is the most raw way to program for the

Re: Devnagari Unicode Conversion Issues

2013-06-27 Thread darpan6aya
That worked out. I was trying to encode it the entire time. Now I realise how silly I am. Thanks MRAB. Once Again. :D -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Devnagari Unicode Conversion Issues

2013-06-27 Thread MRAB
On 27/06/2013 16:05, darpan6aya wrote: How can i convert text of the following type नेपाली into devnagari unicode in Python 2.7? Is that a bytestring? In other words, is its type 'str'? If so, you need to decode it. That particular string is UTF-8: >>> print "नेपाà¤

Re: How to make a web framework

2013-06-27 Thread Fábio Santos
On 27 Jun 2013 14:49, wrote: > > I've used web frameworks, but I don't know how they work. Is there anywhere that I can learn how this all works from scratch? Write CGI scripts. It is the most raw way to program for the web. That way you can dig into what frameworks do for you. -- http://mail.py

Running programs on mobile phones

2013-06-27 Thread Mok-Kong Shen
Could one write Python codes and have them run on one's own mobile phone? If yes, are there some good literatures? Thanks in advance. M. K. Shen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Devnagari Unicode Conversion Issues

2013-06-27 Thread darpan6aya
How can i convert text of the following type नेपाली into devnagari unicode in Python 2.7? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: class factory question

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/27/2013 09:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:16:50 AM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote: On 26 June 2013 14:09, Tim wrote: I am extending a parser and need to create many classes that are all subclassed from the same object (defined in an external library). When my module is loa

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.06.27 08:08, Roy Smith wrote: > Can you give us a concrete example of what you're trying to do? The actual code I've written so far isn't easily condensed into a short simple snippet. I'm trying to use argparse to handle all the little details of parsing and verifying arguments in the pre

How to make a web framework

2013-06-27 Thread gamesbrainiac
I've used web frameworks, but I don't know how they work. Is there anywhere that I can learn how this all works from scratch? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: class factory question

2013-06-27 Thread Tim
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:16:50 AM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 26 June 2013 14:09, Tim wrote: > > > I am extending a parser and need to create many classes that are all > > subclassed from the same object (defined in an external library). When my > > module is loaded I need all the clas

Re: Making a pass form cgi => webpy framework

2013-06-27 Thread Νίκος
Στις 25/6/2013 9:00 μμ, ο/η ru...@yahoo.com έγραψε: On 06/23/2013 07:44 PM, Νίκος wrote:> Why use mako's approach which requires 2 files(an html template and the actual python script rendering the data) when i can have simple print statements inside 1 files(my files.py script) ? After all its o

Re: class factory question

2013-06-27 Thread Joshua Landau
On 26 June 2013 14:09, Tim wrote: > I am extending a parser and need to create many classes that are all > subclassed from the same object (defined in an external library). When my > module is loaded I need all the classes to be created with a particular name > but the behavior is all the same

خطاب الرئيس محمد مرسي كاملا يوم 26-6-2013

2013-06-27 Thread 23alagmy
خطاب الرئيس محمد مرسي كاملا يوم 26-6-2013 https://www.facebook.com/pages/%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AC-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/299719160065550?r

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Andrew Berg wrote: > I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to > parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be > great for this, but unfortunately it insists on calling sys.exit() at any > sign of trouble instead of letting its Ar

Re: Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Joshua Landau
On 27 June 2013 13:54, Andrew Berg wrote: > I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to > parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be > great for this, but unfortunately it insists on calling sys.exit() at any > sign of trouble instead of lettin

Re: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread Ian
On 27/06/2013 11:52, rusi wrote: On Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:35:14 PM UTC+5:30, Russel Walker wrote: On Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:19:18 AM UTC+2, Thrinaxodon wrote: I was hoping to have a good laugh. :| Although I wouldn't call it hostile. I think the python community is being educated in

Re: Limit Lines of Output

2013-06-27 Thread Joshua Landau
On 27 June 2013 00:57, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:09:13 -0700, rusi wrote: > >> On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:54:56 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote: >>> On 25 June 2013 22:48, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> > On Tuesday 25 June 2013 17:47:22 Joshua Landau did opine: >>> >>> I did n

Why is the argparse module so inflexible?

2013-06-27 Thread Andrew Berg
I've begun writing a program with an interactive prompt, and it needs to parse input from the user. I thought the argparse module would be great for this, but unfortunately it insists on calling sys.exit() at any sign of trouble instead of letting its ArgumentError exception propagate so that I c

Re: looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote

2013-06-27 Thread rusi
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Vlastimil Brom wrote: > Hi, > > I belive, the author is Roman Jakobson, see the respective post about > this very question: > http://linguistlist.org/issues/9/9-32.html Thanks! > > There seem to be several variations, > Another remarkable linguist

Re: Don't feed the troll...

2013-06-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > But you didn't even go to the trouble of trying to find out > what those concerns would be and how strong people feel about > them. You just took your assumptions about those concerns for > granted and proceeded from there. Jumping back in h

Re: Don't feed the troll...

2013-06-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 25-06-13 19:25, Ian Kelly schreef: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: What do you mean with not a participant in the past? As far as I can see his first appearance was in dec 2011. That is over a year ago. It also seems that he always find people willing to engage with hi

?????? FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread jj
If you insist it fails, JUST DO NOT USE IT or you create a better language. don't just bother, it does no good. -- -- ??: "Ben Finney"; : 2013??6??27??(??) 1:37 ??: "python-list"; : Re: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAI

Re: looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote

2013-06-27 Thread Vlastimil Brom
2013/6/27 rusi : > I am looking for a quote > (from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school') > > It goes something like this: > > What characterizes a language is not what we can say in it but what we must > -- like it or not -- say. > [...] Hi, I belive, the author is Roman Jako

Re: looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote

2013-06-27 Thread rusi
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:49:23 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, rusi wrote: > > > I am looking for a quote > > (from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school') > > > > It goes something like this: > > > > What characterizes a language is not

Re: looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, rusi wrote: > I am looking for a quote > (from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school') > > It goes something like this: > > What characterizes a language is not what we can say in it but what we must > -- like it or not -- say. I think you may b

looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote

2013-06-27 Thread rusi
I am looking for a quote (from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school') It goes something like this: What characterizes a language is not what we can say in it but what we must -- like it or not -- say. A demo of this is D Hofstadter's http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655

Re: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread rusi
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:35:14 PM UTC+5:30, Russel Walker wrote: > On Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:19:18 AM UTC+2, Thrinaxodon wrote: > I was hoping to have a good laugh. :| > Although I wouldn't call it hostile. I think the python community is being educated in how to spam and troll at the sa

ANN: python-ldap 2.4.13

2013-06-27 Thread Michael Ströder
Find a new release of python-ldap: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ldap/2.4.11 python-ldap provides an object-oriented API to access LDAP directory servers from Python programs. It mainly wraps the OpenLDAP 2.x libs for that purpose. Additionally it contains modules for other LDAP-related st

Re: What is the purpose of type() and the types module and what is a type?

2013-06-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 01:34:34 -0700, Russel Walker wrote: > The type() builtin according to python docs, returns a "type object". > http://docs.python.org/2/library/types.html > > And in this module is bunch of what I assume are "type objects". Is this > correct? http://docs.python.org/2/library/f

What is the purpose of type() and the types module and what is a type?

2013-06-27 Thread Russel Walker
The type() builtin according to python docs, returns a "type object". http://docs.python.org/2/library/types.html And in this module is bunch of what I assume are "type objects". Is this correct? http://docs.python.org/2/library/functions.html#type And type(), aside from being used in as an alte

Re: "private" class attributes

2013-06-27 Thread Alister
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:28:49 -0700, wgtrey wrote: > good question but a very poor reply, you should at least quote SOME of the original post to give context. especially as msg threading in this newsgroup is less than perfect. -- How sharper than a serpent's tooth is a sister's "See?"

Re: FACTS: WHY THE PYTHON LANGUAGE FAILS.

2013-06-27 Thread Russel Walker
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:19:18 AM UTC+2, Thrinaxodon wrote: > = > > >MESSAGE FROM COMPUTER GEEK. > > = > > > > > THRINAXODON HAS RECENTLY RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE FROM THE PYTHON FOUNDER: > > > > Oh my God! It's hard to program with, it`s troubling for so m