On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:46:59 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:11:08 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> Gah! That's twice I've screwed that up. Sorry about that!
>
> Yeah, and your difficulty explaining the Unicode implementation reminds
> me of a passage from the Pyt
On 06/19/2013 11:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:16:51 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
>> The real power and expressivity of Python comes from embracing the
>> abstractions that Python provides to your advantage. There's a certain
>> elegance and beauty that comes from such
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:16:51 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> The real power and expressivity of Python comes from embracing the
> abstractions that Python provides to your advantage. There's a certain
> elegance and beauty that comes from such things, which I believe really
> comes from the elegan
On 06/19/2013 11:16 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> It turns out that lists, hashes (dicts), and classes can pretty much
> do anything with having to much about with C-style pointers and
> such.
Oh wow. Parse error. should read, "pretty much do anything without
having to muck about with C-style point
On 06/18/2013 03:51 AM, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 18/6/2013 12:05 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
>> Names are *always* linked to objects, not to other names.
>>
>> a = []
>> b = a # Now a and b refer to the same list
>> a = {} # Now a refers to a dict, and b refers to the same list as before
>
> I see
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Thanatos xiao wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> Recently I see the python source code, but i still not understand about gil.
> first, why single core quicker multi-core ? who can explan this in bottom
> layery ?
> second, what the different between the mult-core and the si
Hey everyone!
Recently I see the python source code, but i still not understand about gil.
first, why single core quicker multi-core ? who can explan this in bottom
layery ?
second, what the different between the mult-core and the single core to
schecule threads?
thanks!
Forgive me bad english!
-
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:03:05 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> I am trying to invoke a binary that requires dll's in two places all of
> which are included in the path env variable in windows. When running this
> binary with popen it can not find either, passing env=os.environ to open
> made no dif
On 20Jun2013 11:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
| On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Arturo B wrote:
| > Fixed, the problem was in
| > HANGMANPICS
| >
| > I didn't open the brackets.
| > Thank you guys :)
|
| General debugging tip: Syntax errors are sometimes discovered quite
| some way below the actua
Thankyou this was very helpful
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On Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:11:08 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Gah! That's twice I've screwed that up.
> Sorry about that!
Yeah, and your difficulty explaining the Unicode implementation reminds me of a
passage from the Python zen:
"If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:17:35 -0700, Ahmed Abdulshafy wrote:
> I'm reading the Python.org tutorial right now, and I found this part
> rather strange and incomprehensible to me>
>
> Important warning: The default value is evaluated only once. This makes
> a difference when the default is a mutable
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Arturo B wrote:
> Fixed, the problem was in
> HANGMANPICS
>
> I didn't open the brackets.
>
> Thank you guys :)
General debugging tip: Syntax errors are sometimes discovered quite
some way below the actual cause. The easiest way to figure out what's
the real caus
Fixed, the problem was in
HANGMANPICS
I didn't open the brackets.
Thank you guys :)
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:40:15 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On the other hand, the flamers responding to the trolls are regular
> contributers to the list who presumably do care about keeping the list
> courteous, respectful, welcoming and enjoyable to participate in.
> Toward that end, I do not think
Sorry, I'm new in here
So, if you want to see the complete code I've fixed it:
http://www.smipple.net/snippet/a7xrturo/Hangman%21%20%3A%29
And here is the part of code that doesn't work:
#The error is marked in the whitespace between letter and in
def displayBoard(HANGMANPICS, missedLetters,
On 19 June 2013 23:53, Arturo B wrote:
> Mmmm
>
> Ok guys, thank you
>
> I'm really sure that isn't a weird character, it is a space.
>
> My Python version is 3.3.2, I've runed this code in Python 2.7.5, but it
> stills the same.
>
> I've done what you said but it doesn't work.
>
> Please Che
This is prob'ly the freakiest thing I've ever run...
Anyhoo, I recommend that when you post slabs of code to a mailing list
you at least make it runnable for us. We don't have the images. I
"fixed" it by doing:
| playerImage = pygame.Surface((40, 40))
| bearImage = pygame.Surface((64, 64))
|
| pla
I am trying to invoke a binary that requires dll's in two places all of
which are included in the path env variable in windows. When running
this binary with popen it can not find either, passing env=os.environ
to open made no difference.
Anyone know what might cause this or how to work around thi
Mmmm
Ok guys, thank you
I'm really sure that isn't a weird character, it is a space.
My Python version is 3.3.2, I've runed this code in Python 2.7.5, but it stills
the same.
I've done what you said but it doesn't work.
Please Check it again here is better explained:
http://snipplr.com/v
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM, arturo balbuena wrote:
> Hello guys...
> I´m a begginer in Python, I'm doing a Hangman game, but I'm having trouble
> with this blank space. I would be greatful if you help me. :)
>
> Here's my code:
>
> http://snipplr.com/view/71581/hangman/
>
> When I run the co
In <18f427ef-7a9a-413d-a824-65c9df430...@googlegroups.com> arturo balbuena
writes:
> Hello guys...
> I=B4m a begginer in Python, I'm doing a Hangman game, but I'm having troubl=
> e with this blank space. I would be greatful if you help me. :)
> Here's my code:
> http://snipplr.com/view/71581/
On 06/19/2013 05:14 PM, arturo balbuena wrote:
Hello guys...
I´m a begginer in Python, I'm doing a Hangman game, but I'm having trouble with
this blank space. I would be greatful if you help me. :)
Here's my code:
http://snipplr.com/view/71581/hangman/
When I run the code it says: Invalid Syn
Hello guys...
I´m a begginer in Python, I'm doing a Hangman game, but I'm having trouble with
this blank space. I would be greatful if you help me. :)
Here's my code:
http://snipplr.com/view/71581/hangman/
When I run the code it says: Invalid Syntax and this is the error:
http://i.imgur.com/jK
On 06/19/2013 04:57 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 19-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> On 06/18/2013 02:22 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>> Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> I was using the photodetector/light system as a emotion-free
>> analog of the troll/troll-feeders positive f
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:18:49 -0700, jacksonkemp1234 wrote:
> if moveDown and player.right < WINDOW_WIDTH:
> player.right += MOVE_SPEED
Should this be moveRight instead of moveDown?
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:18:49 -0700, jacksonkemp1234 wrote:
> windowSurface.blit(playerImage, player)
> for bear in bears:
> windowSurface.blit(bearImage, bear)
Try changing this to draw the bears first, then the player.
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Thanks everyone for taking the time to offer some very insightful replies.
Learning a new language is so much more fun with a group of friendly and
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I made this game where you move a player over bears, but the bears keep loading
over the plaeyer making it hard to see it, also when i move down the player
goes down to the right
here is my code:
import pygame, sys, random
from pygame.locals import *
from threading import Timer
#set up pygame
On 06/19/2013 12:17 PM, Ahmed Abdulshafy wrote:
I'm reading the Python.org tutorial right now, and I found this part rather
strange and incomprehensible to me>
Important warning: The default value is evaluated only once. This makes a
difference when the default is a mutable object such as a li
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:21:43 AM UTC-4, Duncan Booth wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that your simple loop is looking at every
> character of the input string. The simple "'ENQ' not in line" test can look
> at the third character of the string and if it's none of 'E', 'N' or 'Q'
> ski
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:17:35 PM UTC-5, Ahmed Abdulshafy wrote:
> I'm reading the Python.org tutorial right now, and I found
> this part rather strange and incomprehensible to me>
>
> Important warning: The default value is evaluated only
> once. This makes a difference when the default is a
Ahmed Abdulshafy writes:
> I'm reading the Python.org tutorial right now, and I found this part
> rather strange and incomprehensible to me
>
> Important warning: The default value is evaluated only once. This
> makes a difference when the default is a mutable object such as a
> list, dictionary
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:57:06 PM UTC-5, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> Terry (speaking to OP) said:
>
> Do you literally mean a full screen *window*, like a
> browser maximized,
I'm reading the Python.org tutorial right now, and I found this part rather
strange and incomprehensible to me>
Important warning: The default value is evaluated only once. This makes a
difference when the default is a mutable object such as a list, dictionary, or
instances of most classes
def
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I don't remember making such a claim. What I do remember is
> you among others claiming that the problem was not (so much)
> the troll (Nikos) but the others.
Count me among those who feel this way.
> And your last conclusion is unsound. Yo
On 19 June 2013 17:39, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> What is the subject that this teacher of yours teaches?
> Do you know anyone who has every done any programming?
> Why python?
One of those questions is too easy :P.
But, no, I'd actually point out that Python might *not* be the best
language for th
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM, wrote:
> The second argument takes the tuple which determines which varialble(key) to
> use the comparator on. And the third determines whether to return the list in
> ascending or descending order.
That's not exactly correct. The arguments are listed in that
On 6/19/2013 9:58 AM, augusto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
This is my first post in this group and the reason why I came across here is
that, despite my complete lack of knowledge in the programming area, I received
an order from my teacher to develop a visually interactive program, until 20th
J
On Jun 19, 9:53 pm, Joshua Landau wrote:
> Please be aware, Augusto, that Rick is known to be a bit... OTT. Don't
> take him too seriously (but he's not an idiot either).
>
> On 19 June 2013 14:58, wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> > This is my first post in this group and the reason why I came across here
On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:33:17 PM UTC-7, Ian wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:05 PM, wrote:
>
> > Yes I've read it. Very interesting read. There are other resources too
> > online that make it very clear, for instance the wikipedia articles is
> > pretty good.
>
> >
>
> > Though, if any
On Jun 18, 3:24 pm, Aditya Avinash wrote:
> Hi. This is the last place where I want to ask a question. I have searched
> for lots of tutorials and documentation on the web but, didn't find a
> decent one to develop extensions for Python 3 using a custom compiler
> (mingw32, nvcc). Please help me.
On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:16:02 PM UTC-7, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:15:11 -0700 (PDT), alphons...@gmail.com declaimed
>
> the following:
>
>
>
> >sorry about that. I'm new to google groups. I'm trying to make sense of
> >python's implementation of timsort through cpyth
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Joshua Landau
wrote:
> Now, as I'm probably the most new programmer here I'll point out that
> I don't agree with Chris when he says that:
>
>> One way or
>> another, you will probably spend the next week writing code you throw
>> away; if you try to tackle the pri
Please be aware, Augusto, that Rick is known to be a bit... OTT. Don't
take him too seriously (but he's not an idiot either).
On 19 June 2013 14:58, wrote:
> Hello!
> This is my first post in this group and the reason why I came across here is
> that, despite my complete lack of knowledge in th
A memory consumption by python web frameworks is relatively low. A `typical`
web site developed using wheezy.web (a lightweight full-featured web framework)
consumes about 14-23 Mb per worker on x86 platform. The django is not far from
there.
A minimal django hello world application hosted in u
On 6/19/2013 4:03 AM, Wolfgang Maier wrote:
Wolfgang Maier biologie.uni-freiburg.de> writes:
andrea crotti gmail.com> writes:
2013/6/18 Terry Reedy udel.edu>
Decorators are only worthwhile if used repeatedly. What you specified can
easily be written, for instance, as
def save_doc(db=No
On 6/18/2013 6:24 AM, Aditya Avinash wrote:
Hi. This is the last place where I want to ask a question. I have
searched for lots of tutorials and documentation on the web but, didn't
find a decent one to develop extensions for Python 3 using a custom
compiler (mingw32, nvcc). Please help me.
I w
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:58:19 AM UTC-5, augus...@gmail.com wrote:
> > This is my first post in this group and the reason why I
> > came across here is that, despite my complete lack of
> > knowledge in the programming area, I received
>All you need is the iterator version of map(). In Python 3, that's the
>normal map(); in Python 2, use this:
from itertools import imap
all(imap(lambda x: bool(x), xrange(10**9)))
>False
>It's roughly instant, like you would expect.
>ChrisA
This probably isn't the way to post a reply
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:32 AM, wrote:
>>All you need is the iterator version of map(). In Python 3, that's the
>>normal map(); in Python 2, use this:
>
> from itertools import imap
> all(imap(lambda x: bool(x), xrange(10**9)))
>>False
>
>>It's roughly instant, like you would expect.
>
>
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:47:36 AM UTC-2:30, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:47:34 PM UTC-5, andrew...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm looking at developing a program for work that can be
>
> > distributed to others (i.e. and exe file). The
>
> > application would open v
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:14 AM, wrote:
> And the following, although the same thing really as all(xrange(10**9)), is
> not as instant and will take even longer than the above.
>
all(map(lambda x: bool(x), xrange(10**9)))
>
> However if all by some chance (I don't know how this stuff works
I was mucking around, trying to code a prime sieve in one line. I don't know
about filters and bit shifting and stuff like that but I thought I could do it
with builtins, albeit a very long one line. This is the part of my stupid trick
in question that got me wondering about a key parameter for
I have deployed two Ruby on Rails sites on WebFaction, and Passenger Rack takes
up around 60 MB of memory apiece.
I was planning on replacing my Drupal web sites with Rails, but I'm now
considering replacing these Drupal sites with Django. Given that the baseline
memory consumption for a Rails
I have a table that gets new entries added to it in real time. Each entry has
an ID and I am storing the ID in a dictionary. What I am trying to do is to
have each ID in its own row and update within that row instead of adding a new
one each time.
What I've done is store the ID in a dictionary
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:58:19 AM UTC-5, augus...@gmail.com wrote:
> This is my first post in this group and the reason why I
> came across here is that, despite my complete lack of
> knowledge in the programming area, I received an order
> from my teacher to develop a visually interactive pro
On 2013-06-19, augusto...@gmail.com wrote:
> This is my first post in this group and the reason why I came
> across here is that, despite my complete lack of knowledge in
> the programming area, I received an order from my teacher to
> develop a visually interactive program, until 20th July, so we
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM, wrote:
> My goal is to learn and program it by myself, as good as the time allows me.
> That said, what I seek here is advice from people who definitively have more
> experience than me on topics like: is it possible to develop this kind of
> program in such a
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:47:34 PM UTC-5, andrew...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm looking at developing a program for work that can be
> distributed to others (i.e. and exe file). The
> application would open various dialogue boxes and ask the
> user for input and eventually perform mathematical
> cal
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> On 19 June 2013 14:14, wrote:
>> This sounds similar to what I might want. So you know of any online
>> tutorials for this?
>
> It's hard to tell what you're referring to since you haven't included
> any quoted context in your message (li
Hello!
This is my first post in this group and the reason why I came across here is
that, despite my complete lack of knowledge in the programming area, I received
an order from my teacher to develop a visually interactive program, until 20th
July, so we can participate in a kind of contest.
My
On 19 June 2013 14:14, wrote:
> This sounds similar to what I might want. So you know of any online tutorials
> for this?
It's hard to tell what you're referring to since you haven't included
any quoted context in your message (like I have above). I'll assume
you're referring to what Fábio said
> R Kantas writes:
[Cross-posting to news:comp.lang.python, news:comp.lang.scheme,
looking for more first-hand experience with these. Sadly,
there's no news:comp.lang.go as of yet.]
> I came into first contact with objects and classes programming under
> Visual Bas
Roy Smith wrote:
> Except that the complexity in regexes is compiling the pattern down to
> a FSM. Once you've got the FSM built, the inner loop should be pretty
> quick. In C, the inner loop for executing a FSM should be something
> like:
>
> for(char* p = input; p; ++p) {
> next_state =
This sounds similar to what I might want. So you know of any online tutorials
for this?
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As I've said, I'm a fairly novice. I've compiled simple VB programs previously
into exe files for use but nothing with pyton and nothing of this complexity.
This application could potentially be distributed to hundreds of people
throughout the world as our company is worldwide. Asking these peop
On Jun 18, 8:31 pm, zoom wrote:
>
> yes, that's the hing.
>
> thanks a lot
>
> FYI this happens because
> >>> shape(mean(m,1))
> (4, 1)
> >>> shape(mean(array(m),1))
> (4,)
>
> thanks again
And thank you for the 'Thank you' !!
Given the noob-questions the list is currently dealing with, your
q
On 19 Jun 2013 12:56, "Oscar Benjamin" wrote:
>
> On 19 June 2013 12:13, wrote:
> >
> > I've seen some information on Blender. Is it possible to have the
entire program contained within a single exe (or exe and some other files)
so that it can be passed around and used by others without having
On 19 June 2013 12:13, wrote:
>
> I've seen some information on Blender. Is it possible to have the entire
> program contained within a single exe (or exe and some other files) so that
> it can be passed around and used by others without having to install blender?
I don't know if Blender woul
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:30:41 AM UTC-2:30, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 19.06.13 04:47, schrieb andrewblun...@gmail.com:
>
> > However, for one part of the program I'd like to be able to create a
>
> > 3D model based on the user input. The model would be very basic
>
> > consisting of
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:50:52 AM UTC-2:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:47:34 -0700, andrewblundon wrote:
>
>
>
> > However, for one part of the program I'd like to be able to create a 3D
>
> > model based on the user input. The model would be very basic consisting
>
Op 19-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> On 06/18/2013 02:22 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> I was using the photodetector/light system as a emotion-free
> analog of the troll/troll-feeders positive feedback system for
> which you claimed it was clea
Am 18.06.2013 12:24, schrieb Aditya Avinash:
Hi. This is the last place where I want to ask a question.
You are probably not saying what you mean here. The meaning of your
sentence is more like "Here is the forum that I dislike more than any
other forum, but still I have to ask a question her
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:21:40 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> You can't reference an object without
>> somewhere having either a name or a literal to start it off.
>
> True, but not necessarily a name bound to the object you are thinking o
On 18/06/2013 11:24, Aditya Avinash wrote:
Hi. This is the last place where I want to ask a question. I have searched
for lots of tutorials and documentation on the web but, didn't find a
decent one to develop extensions for Python 3 using a custom compiler
(mingw32, nvcc). Please help me.
PS: Do
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:21:40 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You can't reference an object without
> somewhere having either a name or a literal to start it off.
True, but not necessarily a name bound to the object you are thinking of:
some_function()
gives you an object, but it's not a literal,
On 18.06.2013 22:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
> All the O() tells you is the general shape of the line.
Nitpick: it only gives an *upper bound* for the complexity. Any function
that is within O(n) is also within O(n^2). Usually when people say O()
they actually mean capital Thetha (which is the corre
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 06/19/2013 03:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
>>>
>>> Names are *one of* the ways we specify which objects are to be used. (We
>>> can
>>> also specify objects via an container and a subs
On 06/19/2013 03:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
Names are *one of* the ways we specify which objects are to be used. (We can
also specify objects via an container and a subscript or slice, or via an
attribute of another object. And probably anot
Wolfgang Maier biologie.uni-freiburg.de> writes:
>
> andrea crotti gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 2013/6/18 Terry Reedy udel.edu>
> >
> > Decorators are only worthwhile if used repeatedly. What you specified can
> easily be written, for instance, as
> > def save_doc(db=None):
> > if db is None:
Στις 19/6/2013 8:08 πμ, ο/η Tim Roberts έγραψε:
Nick the Gr33k wrote:
On 16/6/2013 4:55 ??, Tim Roberts wrote:
Nick the Gr33k wrote:
Because Python lets you use arbitrary values in a Boolean context, the net
result is exactly the same.
What is an arbitrary value? don even knwo what arbitr
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:28 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On the contrary, stereotyping is "You are-a , therefore you
>> will behave in ".
>
> I don't think that's how stereotypes usually work.
>
> "He wears a turban, therefore he's an
Hi. This is the last place where I want to ask a question. I have searched
for lots of tutorials and documentation on the web but, didn't find a
decent one to develop extensions for Python 3 using a custom compiler
(mingw32, nvcc). Please help me.
PS: Don't point me to Python Documentation. It is n
andrea crotti gmail.com> writes:
>
> 2013/6/18 Terry Reedy udel.edu>
> On 6/18/2013 5:47 AM, andrea crotti wrote:
> Using a CouchDB server we have a different database object potentially
> for every request.
> We already set that db in the request object to make it easy to pass it
> around for
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:28 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On the contrary, stereotyping is "You are-a , therefore you
> will behave in ".
I don't think that's how stereotypes usually work.
"He wears a turban, therefore he's an Arab terrorist."
"He's wearing black, has pale skin, listens to t
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> Names are *one of* the ways we specify which objects are to be used. (We can
> also specify objects via an container and a subscript or slice, or via an
> attribute of another object. And probably another way or two.)
But you always have to bo
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM, wrote:
> On 06/18/2013 01:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
>>> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
>>
>> This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that
>> you're
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