On Monday, January 14, 2013 12:51:50 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
> I think the distinction you are trying to make here is based upon the
> submodule's actual source location on the disk. If you have a package
> folder A which contains a file B.py, then you would access that as
> A:B, correct? If on the
Joep van Delft writes:
> ...
> What puzzles me, is the amount of errors for open and stat64.
The high number of errors comes from Python's import logic:
when Python should import a module/package (not yet imported),
it looks into each member on "sys.path" for about 6 different potential
filename
On Monday, January 14, 2013 11:34:56 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Since both os and path are modules, you here say that they need a colon
> between them. This contradicts the above when you say the syntax for
> os.path won't change.
But you forgot the rule about accessing module members w
I'm trying to get an application working in Python 2.7 and wx.Python which
contains an embedded sqlite3 file. There are a few tables with foreign keys
defined. In looking at the sqlite3 documentation, it says
"Assuming the library is compiled with foreign key constraints enabled, it must
sti
On Monday, January 14, 2013 11:26:37 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:46:44 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> [...]
> Your knowledge of English has failed you. Here is the first definition
> from Webster's Dictionary (1913 edition):
>
> Class [...]
>1. A group of individua
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
> import sys
>
> PY3K = sys.version_info >= (3,)
>
>
> methods = set([
> "__iter__",
> "__len__",
> "__contains__",
>
> "__lt__",
> "__le__",
> "__eq__",
> "__ne__",
> "__gt__",
> "__ge__",
>
> "__add__",
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:00:16 -0500, Rodrick Brown wrote:
>
> > Can someone explain what's going on here.
> >
> > def _build_magic_dispatcher(method):
> > def inner(self, *args, **kwargs):
> >
On 1/14/2013 11:00 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Can someone explain what's going on here.
def _build_magic_dispatcher(method):
def inner(self, *args, **kwargs):
return self.__dict__[method](*args, **kwargs)
inner.__name__ = method
return inner
Nothing, until you run that wi
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:00:16 -0500, Rodrick Brown wrote:
> Can someone explain what's going on here.
>
> def _build_magic_dispatcher(method):
> def inner(self, *args, **kwargs):
> return self.__dict__[method](*args, **kwargs)
> inner.__name__ = method
> return inner
>
> Thank
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:50:01 +0100, Joep van Delft wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
> I am puzzled at how I borked my installation. Python loads slow on my
> machine, and I decided to use strace and /usr/bin/time to see what is
> actually happening.
Before dropping down to such a low level, I suggest you
Can someone explain what's going on here.
def _build_magic_dispatcher(method):
def inner(self, *args, **kwargs):
return self.__dict__[method](*args, **kwargs)
inner.__name__ = method
return inner
Thanks.
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On 15 Jan 2013 02:08:38 GMT
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > Rick Johnson is a well-known troll.
>
> I disagree that Rick is a troll. Trolling requires that the troll
Doesn't matter. He duck types as one.
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:57:58 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Rick Johnson is a well-known troll.
I disagree that Rick is a troll. Trolling requires that the troll makes
statements that he doesn't believe are true, simply in order to get a
response. I do not believe that Rick is doing that. I thi
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:00:13 -0600, Tim Chase wrote:
> Clearly Python should use a keyword like "Kingdom" or "Phylum" instead.
> I guess "Kingdom" should be reserved for metaclasses (or would they be
> metaphylums? or metaphyla?)
Metaphyla, of course.
>kingdom Baz:
> pass
>
>phy
Hi there,
I am puzzled at how I borked my installation. Python loads slow on my
machine, and I decided to use strace and /usr/bin/time to see what is
actually happening.
# sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
$ /usr/bin/time python2 -c ""
0.19user 0.04system 0:01.22elapsed 19%CPU (0avgtex
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:43:34 -, Peter wrote:
Real mature lot of responses here guys - shows how much you have grown
up.
Reading this thread looked more like observing a bunch of 3rd grader -
somebody offers an opinion and all you can do is ridicule it?
Now read the rest of the thread
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
> And those aren't even covering the case that a, normally non-mutating,
> method actually mutates.
If it's static analysis, I'd quietly ignore those sorts of cases.
Anything can be changed any time, including stuff that's completely
unrelated
On 1/14/2013 4:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM, wrote:
I'd like to develop a small debugging tool for python programs.In Dynamic
Slicing How can I find the variables that are accessed in a statement? And find
the type of access (read or write) for those variables
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM, wrote:
> > I'd like to develop a small debugging tool for python programs.In
> Dynamic Slicing How can I find the variables that are accessed in a
> statement? And find the type of access (read or write) f
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM, wrote:
> I'd like to develop a small debugging tool for python programs.In Dynamic
> Slicing How can I find the variables that are accessed in a statement? And
> find the type of access (read or write) for those variables (in Python).
> ### Write: A statement ca
On 15 January 2013 07:57, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> Oh, and Dennis? Mal. Bad. From the Latin. :)
>
I was about to point out the same thing, using the same quote ;)
Tim Delaney
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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Peter wrote:
> Real mature lot of responses here guys - shows how much you have grown up.
>
> Reading this thread looked more like observing a bunch of 3rd grader -
> somebody offers an opinion and all you can do is ridicule it?
>
> Real mature - certainly gives P
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:35 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:51:50 -0700
> Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Rick Johnson
>> wrote:
> ...Whatever
>
>> If you want us to understand the syntax, then you need to define
>
> If you are going to feed the troll
Unit selection doesn't work properly. Pygames event.pos returns a tuple of the
coords within the current window, so it's not possible to select units outside
of the top left corner.
from pygamehelper import *
from pygame import *
from pygame.locals import *
from vec2d import *
from math import e
I'd like to develop a small debugging tool for python programs.In Dynamic
Slicing How can I find the variables that are accessed in a statement? And find
the type of access (read or write) for those variables (in Python).
### Write: A statement can change the program state.
### Read : A statement
On 2013-01-14, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Only a fool would do "from Tkinter import *"[2].
> [2] With the exception of command line testing, learning, or playing.
I don't think those should be excepted. Habits acquired during
learning/playing will be continue when doing real work, and "Example"
code
Real mature lot of responses here guys - shows how much you have grown up.
Reading this thread looked more like observing a bunch of 3rd grader - somebody
offers an opinion and all you can do is ridicule it?
Real mature - certainly gives Python a good name having followers like this...
But then
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:51:50 -0700
Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
...Whatever
> If you want us to understand the syntax, then you need to define
If you are going to feed the trolls can I please ask that you Cc them
or send to them and Cc the list? Tha
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> Because modules and objects are not the same and someone who is reading the
>> source code NEEDS to know which "path members" are /modules/ and which "path
>> members" are /objects/. And he needs to know that very important
>> information W
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> You are missing the point of this syntax. The colon is to access MODULE
> NAMESPACE. The dot is to access MODULE MEMBERS. A module CAN BE another
> module's MEMBER.
>
> You are also unable to grasp this simple logical fact: Once you arrive
On 01/14/2013 11:09 AM, John Gordon wrote:
> In Michael Torrie
> writes:
>
>> On 01/13/2013 09:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
>>> two it with threads!" problems.
>
>> The same applies to regular expressions, which is ac
In Michael Torrie
writes:
> On 01/13/2013 09:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
> > two it with threads!" problems.
> The same applies to regular expressions, which is actually what the
> expression was first used with year
On 01/14/13 11:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Your knowledge of English has failed you. Here is the first definition
from Webster's Dictionary (1913 edition):
Class \Class\ (kl[.a]s), n. [F. classe, fr. L. classis class,
collection, fleet; akin to Gr. klh^sis a calling, kalei^n to
call, E.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Szabolcs Blága wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have an idea that the Ellipsis object could be used in function calls.
> The "..." syntax should automagically turn into an Ellipsis positional
> argument.
>
> def f(*args):
> ext_args = []
> for i, a in enumerate(args):
On 01/13/2013 09:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
> two it with threads!" problems.
The same applies to regular expressions, which is actually what the
expression was first used with years ago. Probably applies to just
about a
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:22:57 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:45:03 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:34:20 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> > [...]
>> So what do you do for, say, os.path? According to the first rule, you
>> must write it as os:pa
And I hope you don't mind I may very well "borrow" this as my e-mail
sig. Comedic gold imo.
Demian Brecht
http://demianbrecht.github.com
On 2013-01-13 8:16 PM, "Steven D'Aprano"
wrote:
>A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
>two it with threads!" problems.
I love getting that "what's up with this guy" when I start chuckling so
hard that I nearly spit out my coffee first thing Monday morning.
Thank you sir, this has given my week a bright start :)
Demian Brecht
http://demianbrecht.github.com
On 2013-01-13 8:16 PM, "Steven D'Aprano"
wrote:
>A p
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:46:44 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> I have believed for a very long time that "class" was a poor choice of
> keyword to designate an "object definition".
>
> Firstly, the word /class/ does not transform smoothly into CS from
> English. NO English definition of "class" comes
On 01/14/2013 09:44 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:31:59 -0500, Dave Angel wrote:
>
>> On 01/13/2013 11:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
>>> two it with threads!" problems.
>> ++10
> It took me a moment to figu
On Monday, January 14, 2013 9:04:00 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> The performance cost of reimporting a module is very low;
> in fact, trying to avoid it by adorning all your usage
> with an extra dot-level will probably cost you a lot more,
> since there'll be an extra lookup every time.
Most
this is what i have right now, it tells me i can't multiply a vector with a
vector, i have to find a way to multiply the speed with the updated angle
(=hoek in dutch)
code :
from visual import *
import time
import math
import random
class lunar_lander(object):
def __init__(self):
On 2013-01-14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
> two it with threads!" problems.
:)
That took a few seconds -- must be the cold.
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:54:27 +0100, zoom wrote:
> Is there any "rules" regarding importing python modules within your own
> module? I mean, how does this affects the performance of the program?
"Even the initializers are optimized!" -- Mel, the real programmer
Unless you've profiled it, and the
On 01/14/2013 04:01 PM, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:54:27 +0100, zoom wrote:
Is there any "rules" regarding importing python modules within your own
module? I mean, how does this affects the performance of the program?
"Even the initializers are optimized!" -- Mel, the real prog
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:54 AM, zoom wrote:
> Is there any "rules" regarding importing python modules within your own
> module? I mean, how does this affects the performance of the program?
>
> In short, when creating a module, is it worthwhile to be careful and import
> only necessary functions,
Is there any "rules" regarding importing python modules within your own
module? I mean, how does this affects the performance of the program?
For example, I have my own module named "sound".
At the top of the file sound.py I have:
import scipy
In the code I have:
import scipy, sound, etc
Now I
==
pyspread 0.2.3
==
Pyspread 0.2.3 is released.
The new version improves GPG integration.
About pyspread
==
Pyspread is a non-traditional spreadsheet application that is based on
and written in the programming language Python.
The goal of pyspread is to
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:56:08 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Awesome! Now, just one more step to make Python into the World's Most
> Awesome Language(tm): Replace those lengthy words with single symbols
> found in the Unicode set; compress everything down and enforce perfect
> Unicode handling. Als
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:31:59 -0500, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 01/13/2013 11:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
>> two it with threads!" problems.
>
> ++10
It took me a moment to figure it out, but in the end I smiled and I
agree:
On 01/14/13 01:56, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
I really don't like using two words ("define object", or "def obj") and using one single keyword is ambiguous ("object"
or "obj"). So the obvious solution is to combine the abbreviated words into one
Op 14-01-13 13:38, Peter Otten schreef:
> It turns out the logic of the above is correct. The problem is that the
> handler has to see the INFO-level records while the filter() method has to
> reject them. The following configuration seems to achieve that:
I see, I thought trowing away logrecord
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> A newbie programmer had a problem and thought
>
>
>
> "I'll solve it by posting on
>
>
>
> python-list@python.org and on Google Groups".
>
>
>
> And now we have the problem of two threads...
And, when faced with problems of having two threads, t
On 01/13/13 22:16, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll
solve two it with threads!" problems.
A newbie programmer had a problem and thought "I'll solve it by
posting on python-list@python.org and on Google Groups". And now we
have the proble
Hi,
I only skimmed through the code, but I think your problem resides at the "while
True" in your brandstofmeter update(). This function never stops..
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In article ,
Roy Smith wrote:
>In article ,
> Alister wrote:
>
>> Indeed due to the poor quality of most websites it is not possible to be
>> 100% accurate for all sites.
>>
>> personally I would start by checking the doc type & then the meta data as
>> these should be quick & correct, I then us
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> I have some in house code for which I am considering replacing the
> logging code with something that uses the logging module.
> However there is one thing the in-house log code does, that seems
> difficult to do with the logging module, provide some context. The
> in-hous
On Jan 14, 2:16 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
> two it with threads!" problems.
I laughed far far longer than I should have, cheers :)
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I have some in house code for which I am considering replacing the
logging code
with something that uses the logging module.
The code is typically used as a cron job with everything higher than
info logged to
a file and everything higher than warning logged to stderr.
However there is one thing
On 01/13/2013 11:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> A programmer had a problem, and thought Now he has "I know, I'll solve
> two it with threads!" problems.
>
>
++10
I've been thinking about threads lately, and have come to the tentative
conclusion that they're a solution which has outlived its use
On 13/01/2013 05:55, robey.lawre...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 8:34:01 PM UTC+11, Tim Golden wrote:
>> On 12/01/2013 06:09, email.addr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to write a short program to query the windows event
>>
>>> log.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> It needs to ask the
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