On 9/16/2012 8:14 PM, alex23 wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:55 am, Roy Smith wrote:
They didn't buy the service. They bought the data. Well, they really
bought both, but the data is all they wanted.
I thought they'd taken most of the historical data offline now too?
Some of it, but they still had m
On 10/30/2012 09:47 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> Let's not confound an issue here -- I am going to implement the python
> interpreter; and am not bound by optimization considerations of the
> present python interpreter -- There are things I can do which as a
> python programmer -- you can't. I
Ian,
> Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
> http://bugs.python.org/issue1501180
Absolutely bloody typical, turned down because of an idiot. Who the hell is
Tim Peters anyway?
> I don't really disagree with him, anyway. It is a rather obscure bug
> -- is it worth increasi
On 9/16/2012 10:44 AM, pandora.ko...@gmail.com wrote:
Whaen i tried to post just now by hitting sumbit, google groups told me that
the following addresssed has benn found in this thread! i guess is used them
all to notify everything!
cdf072b2-7359-4417-b1e4-d984e4317...@googlegroups.com
mailma
On 9/16/2012 8:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Νικόλαος Κούρας writes:
Iam sorry i didnt do that on purpose and i dont know how this is done.
Iam positng via google groups using chrome, thats all i know.
It is becoming quite clear that some change has happened recently to
Google Groups that makes
On 10/30/2012 04:48 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 30/10/2012 15:47, Andrew Robinson wrote:
I would refer you to a book written by Steve Maguire, Writing Solid
Code; Chapter 5; Candy machine interfaces.
The book that took a right hammering here
http://accu.org/index.php?module=bookreviews&func
On Oct 31, 1:45 am, Neal Becker wrote:
> rusi wrote:
> > On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti wrote:
> >
> >> Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why?
>
> > Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num
> > wrapper or is it about the general question of choosing mutabl
On 30/10/2012 15:47, Andrew Robinson wrote:
I would refer you to a book written by Steve Maguire, Writing Solid
Code; Chapter 5; Candy machine interfaces.
The book that took a right hammering here
http://accu.org/index.php?module=bookreviews&func=search&rid=467 ?
--
Cheers.
Mark Lawrence.
On 30/10/2012 21:47, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 30/10/2012 18:02, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
File a bug report?
Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
http://bugs.python.org/issue15
On 10/30/2012 01:17 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
By the way Andrew, the timestamps on your emails appear to be off, or
possibly the time zone. Your posts are allegedly arriving before the
posts you reply to, at least according to my news client.
:D -- yes, I know about that problem. Every time I r
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Andrew Robinson
> wrote:
>> D'Apriano mentioned the named values, start, stop, step in a slice() which
>> are an API and legacy issue; These three names must also be stored in the
>> interpreter someplace. Sinc
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Mark Lawrence
> wrote:
>> On 30/10/2012 18:02, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
File a bug report?
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like it's already been wontfixed back
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
> D'Apriano mentioned the named values, start, stop, step in a slice() which
> are an API and legacy issue; These three names must also be stored in the
> interpreter someplace. Since slice is defined at the "C" level as a struct,
> have yo
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 30/10/2012 18:02, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
>>>
>>> File a bug report?
>>
>>
>> Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
>>
>> http://bugs.python.org/issue1501180
>>
>
> Absol
On 30/10/2012 18:02, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
File a bug report?
Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
http://bugs.python.org/issue1501180
Absolutely bloody typical, turned down because of an idiot. Who the
hell is Tim Peters
Andrew Robinson wrote:
I can see that the slice() function can pass in arbitrary arguments.
I'm not sure for lists, which is what the range is applied to, why an
argument like "a" would be part of a slice.
Well, in my dbf.py Record class you can use the names of fields as the slice arguments,
On 30/10/2012 12:25, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
Hi!
I can call a staticmethod f() of class C like "C.f()" or with an
instance like "C().f()". Inside that staticmethod, I have neither the
class (at least not the original one) nor do I have an instance, so I
can't call a different staticmethod from th
On 10/30/2012 11:02 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
File a bug report?
Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
http://bugs.python.org/issue1501180
Thanks, IAN, you've answered the first of my questions and have been a
great help.
(And y
rusi wrote:
> On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti wrote:
>
>> Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why?
>
> Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num
> wrapper or is it about the general question of choosing mutable or
> immutable types?
>
> If the latter I would
Hello list,
suppose I have three packages like this:
ingredients-base/
ingredients/
__init__.py
setup.py <-- this one only references package ingredients
ingredients-spam/
ingredients/
__init__.py
spam/
__init__.py
recipe.py
setup
- Original Message -
[snip]
> I haven't figured out the justification for staticmethod,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namespace
+
"Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!"
Someone may successfully use only modules as namespaces, but classes can be
used as well.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> File a bug report?
Looks like it's already been wontfixed back in 2006:
http://bugs.python.org/issue1501180
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On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti wrote:
> Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why?
Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num
wrapper or is it about the general question of choosing mutable or
immutable types?
If the latter I would suggest you read
http://en.wi
Am 30.10.2012 14:47, schrieb Dave Angel:
I'd think the obvious solution is to move both the functions outside of
the class. I haven't figured out the justification for staticmethod,
except for java or C++ converts.
Although I come from a C++ background, I think static functions have
solid rea
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> class Spam():
> @staticmethod
> def green():
> print('on a train!')
> @staticmethod
> def question():
> print('would you, could you', end='')
> Spam.green()
>
> It can be a pain if you change the class n
On 10/30/2012 10:47 AM, andrew.macke...@3ds.com wrote:
> When formatting a float using the exponential format, the rounding is
> different in Python-2.6 and Python-2.7. See example below.
> Is this intentional?
>
> Is there any way of forcing the Python-2.6 behavior (for compatibility
> reasons w
andrew.macke...@3ds.com wrote:
> When formatting a float using the exponential format, the rounding is
> different in Python-2.6 and Python-2.7. See example below. Is this
> intentional?
>
> Is there any way of forcing the Python-2.6 behavior (for compatibility
> reasons when testing)?
>
It is
When formatting a float using the exponential format, the rounding is different
in Python-2.6 and Python-2.7. See example below.
Is this intentional?
Is there any way of forcing the Python-2.6 behavior (for compatibility reasons
when testing)?
>c:\python26\python
r:\asiData\abaObjects\lib>c:\py
Replying to skyworld because I could not find the original message
from MRAB.
skyworld wrote:
> On Oct 27, 11:02 am, MRAB wrote:
> > On 2012-10-27 03:28, skyworld wrote:> Hi,
> >
> > > I'm new to python and I'm trying to porting some scripts from v0.96 to
> > > v2.0.1. A piece of code is like thi
2012/10/30 alex23 :
> On Oct 30, 2:33 am, Johannes Bauer wrote:
>> I'm currently looking for a good solution to the following problem: I
>> have two classes A and B, which interact with each other and which
>> interact with the user. Instances of B are always created by A.
>>
>> Now I want A to ca
shannan is so good at giving head pt 22
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shannan+is+so+good+at+giving+head+pt+22+site:ryurikpiroumita.blogspot.com&btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky
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On 10/30/2012 08:25 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I can call a staticmethod f() of class C like "C.f()" or with an
> instance like "C().f()". Inside that staticmethod, I have neither the
> class (at least not the original one) nor do I have an instance, so I
> can't call a different staticme
Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
I can call a staticmethod f() of class C like "C.f()" or with an
instance like "C().f()". Inside that staticmethod, I have neither the
class (at least not the original one) nor do I have an instance, so I
can't call a different staticmethod from the same class. The obviou
On 10/30/2012 08:57 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:33:38 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
>
>> On 10/30/2012 08:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to give the user the ability to enter code which may only rebind
>>> a given set of names but not all ones.
>>> This do
Hi!
I can call a staticmethod f() of class C like "C.f()" or with an
instance like "C().f()". Inside that staticmethod, I have neither the
class (at least not the original one) nor do I have an instance, so I
can't call a different staticmethod from the same class. The obvious
solution is to
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Helmut Jarausch
wrote:
> Given spreadsheet S (Source) and D (Destination) as objects (wrapping a
> dictionary) a possible (legal) input would be
>
> D.price= D.price-S.discount
>
> No other fields of 'D' should be modifiable.
That's a bit harder. What you're des
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:33:38 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 10/30/2012 08:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to give the user the ability to enter code which may only rebind
>> a given set of names but not all ones.
>> This does NOT work
>> A=1
>> B=2
>> Code=compile('A=7','','exec
If someone comes across this posting with the same problem, the best answer
seems to be:
avoid Pythons xml.etree.ElementTree and use this library instead:
http://lxml.de/
It works like expected and supports xpath much better.
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On 10/30/2012 08:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to give the user the ability to enter code which may only rebind
> a given set of names but not all ones.
> This does NOT work
> A=1
> B=2
> Code=compile('A=7','','exec')
> exec(Code,{'A':0})
> print("I've got A={}".format(A)) # prin
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Helmut Jarausch
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to give the user the ability to enter code which may only rebind
> a given set of names but not all ones.
>
> How can 'filter' the gobal namespace such that modifying 'A' is allowed
> but any attempt to modify 'B' should g
Hi,
I'd like to give the user the ability to enter code which may only rebind
a given set of names but not all ones.
This does NOT work
A=1
B=2
Code=compile('A=7','','exec')
exec(Code,{'A':0})
print("I've got A={}".format(A)) # prints 1
How can 'filter' the gobal namespace such that modifying 'A
On Monday, October 29, 2012 3:48:09 PM UTC+1, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> On 10/29/2012 06:39 AM, ic...@tagyourself.com wrote:
>
> > That's very kind of you but I don't think it would be particularly fitted
> > to my needs. The program I'm trying to code creates an image as an 2D array
> > of "pixe
On 10/30/2012 12:20 AM, noydb wrote:
> On Monday, October 29, 2012 11:11:55 PM UTC-4, Dave Angel wrote:
>> On 10/29/2012 10:13 PM, noydb wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I get there eventually!
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> okay, I see.
> But for the user supplied date... I'm not sure of the format just yet...
> test
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> I'm not entirely certain why collection objects get this special
> treatment, but there you have it.
Thinking about it some more, this makes sense. The GC header is there
to support garbage collection for the object. Atomic types like ints
do
By the way Andrew, the timestamps on your emails appear to be off, or
possibly the time zone. Your posts are allegedly arriving before the
posts you reply to, at least according to my news client.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:34:24 -0700, Andrew Robinson wrote:
> On 10/29/2012 05:02 PM, Steven D'Apr
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
>> I don't know of a reason why one might need to use a negative start
>> with a positive stop, though.
>
> I've already given several examples; and another poster did too
I meant that I don't know of a reason to do that given the existing
s
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
> If you re-check my post to chris, I listed the struct you mention.
> The C code is what is actually run (by GDB breakpoint test) when a tuple is
> instantiated.
When you were running GDB, were you debugging the interactive
interpreter or a
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
> NOTE: The above is taken from reading the source code for Python 2.6.
> For some odd reason, I am getting that an empty tuple consists of 6
> pointer-sized objects (48 bytes on x64), rather than the expected 3
> pointer-sized (24 bytes on x64)
On 10/29/2012 11:51 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Andrew Robinson
As above, you're looking at the compiler code, which is why you're
finding things like "line" and "column". The tuple struct is defined
in tupleobject.h and stores tuple elements in a tail array.
If you
On 10/29/2012 10:53 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 10/29/2012 01:34 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote:
No, I don't think it big and complicated. I do think it has timing
implications which are undesirable because of how *much* slices are used.
In an embedded target -- I have to optimize; and I will have
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