Re: What's wrong with this code?

On 24/07/2012 02:19, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 23/07/2012 15:50, Stone Li wrote: I'm totally confused by this code: Code: a = None b = None c = None d = None x = [[a,b], [c,d]] e,f = x[1] print e,f c = 1 d = 2 print e,f e = 1

Re: Using Python packaging tools to maintain source distributions in other languages?

On Jul 23, 11:16 pm, eric.lemi...@gmail.com wrote: > Greetings all, > > I would like to leverage the Python packaging tools (e.g. distutils, > setuptools, distribute, et. al.) to maintain (i.e. download, extract, > configure, make, install, package) source distributions other than Python > modul

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > > When people boycott a product, it isn't because not having the product > > is better than having the product. That's clearly untrue: despite the > > reasons for the boycott, the product has some value. They boycott it > > because by

Re: python package confusion

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:22:45 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > Also adding . to the import search path is probably a bad diea. I don't know about a bad idea or not, but it is certainly redundant, because Python automatically adds '' (equivalent to '.') to the very start of the search path. --

Re: My first ever Python program, comments welcome

On Jul 22, 10:23 pm, Lipska the Kat wrote: > Heh heh, Nothing to do with Eclipse, just another thing to get my head > around. For work and Java IMHO you can't beat eclipse... > at the moment I'm getting my head around git, Bumped into this yesterday. Seems like a good aid to git-comprehension ht

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >>> Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, >>> my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers >>> freely available, not eve

Re: Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

On Jul 24, 9:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, rusi wrote: > > "How many of you use Linux?" I ask. > > The awkwardness is in the definition of the question. Many of the > products that I buy will have, at some point, been carried by a truck, > but I would answer "No"

Re: Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, rusi wrote: > "How many of you use Linux?" I ask. The awkwardness is in the definition of the question. Many of the products that I buy will have, at some point, been carried by a truck, but I would answer "No" if someone asked me if I use a truck. Would you say t

Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

On Jul 24, 7:51 am, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > >> Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my > >> opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers > >> freely available, not even an abstra

Re: A thread import problem

I'm happy to report that Robin Dunn, the developer of wxPython, showed me how to solve my VPython architectural problem, using wxPython. I attach a test program based on wxPython that has all of the properties I was looking for (though it needs some minor cleanups, including quitting gracefully, an

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my >> opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers >> freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask for valuable >> free data from fr

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:44:27 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/23/2012 8:51 AM, Alexander Serebrenik wrote: >> Do you participate in StackOverflow discussions? >> >> As a part of a joint on-going research effort of the Brunel University >> (UK) and Eindhoven University of Technology (The Netherland

Re: What's wrong with this code?

On 23/07/2012 15:50, Stone Li wrote: > I'm totally confused by this code: > > Code: > > a = None > b = None > c = None > d = None > x = [[a,b], > [c,d]] > e,f = x[1] > print e,f > c = 1 > d = 2 > print e,f > e = 1 > f = 2 > print c,d >

Re: the meaning of r’.......‘

On Monday, July 23, 2012 1:59:42 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie wrote: > > the meaning of r’...‘？ > > It's a raw string. > > http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/introduction.html#strings > > Chris Angelico Since this

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

This assignment works: import win32com.client oOutlook = win32com.client.Dispatch("Outlook.Application") appt = oOutlook.CreateItem(0) appt.BodyFormat = win32com.client.constants.olFormatHTML But this assignment does not work: import win32com.client oOutlook = win32com.client.Dispatc

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On Monday 23 July 2012 19:42:29 Alexander Serebrenik did opine: > 1) The paper referenced contains 4 pages, so it should be available via > IEEXplore. Moreover, you can find a copy on > http://www.win.tue.nl/~aserebre/MSR2012.pdf > > 2) Since the survey is only one of the techniques we intend to

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

1) The paper referenced contains 4 pages, so it should be available via IEEXplore. Moreover, you can find a copy on http://www.win.tue.nl/~aserebre/MSR2012.pdf 2) Since the survey is only one of the techniques we intend to use, and it will be augmented by analysing the data publicly available i

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On 7/23/2012 6:01 PM, Evan Driscoll wrote: Leaving aside questions of relevance to the email list and the quality of results from a self-selected survey, the PDF is linked directly from the Google Scholar link in the original post: "[PDF] from tue.nl". You're right, off to the side where I mis

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

Terry Reedy wrote: Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask for valuable free data from freely donated time. Thanks, Terry! Save me s

Re: Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On 01/-10/-28163 01:59 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: This is a deceptive and time-wasting link Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask for

Re: the meaning of r’.......‘

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/23/2012 3:59 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie wrote: >>> >>> the meaning of r’...‘？ >> >> >> It's a raw string. >> >> http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/introduction.html#strings > > St

Re: Basic question about speed/coding style/memory

Chris Angelico於 2012年7月21日星期六UTC+8下午5時04分12秒寫道： > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jan Riechers > wrote: > > Block > > #-- > > if statemente_true: > > doSomething() > > else: > > doSomethingElseInstead() > > > > #--

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

On 7/23/2012 8:51 AM, Alexander Serebrenik wrote: Do you participate in StackOverflow discussions? As a part of a joint on-going research effort of the Brunel University (UK) and Eindhoven University of Technology (The Netherlands) on the impact of collaboration sites on the developers communit

Re: Basic question about speed/coding style/memory

Jan Riechers於 2012年7月21日星期六UTC+8下午3時33分27秒寫道： > Hello Pythonlist, > > I have one very basic question about speed,memory friendly coding, and > coding style of the following easy "if"-statement in Python 2.7, > but Im > sure its also the same in Python 3.x > > Block > #-

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

These do not work: appt.BodyFormat = olBodyFormat.olFormatHTML ... appt.BodyFormat = olBodyFormat.olFormatHTML NameError: name 'olBodyFormat' is not defined appt.BodyFormat = win32com.client.constants.olFormatHTML ... appt.BodyFormat = win32com.client.constan

Re: can someone teach me this?

On 7/23/2012 9:32 AM, E. wrote: On 2012-07-21, Menghsiu Lee wrote: Hi, I have tried 1000 times to compile this python file to be an exe file by using py2exe and gui2exe But, it does not work out. You should show what happened. I am thinking if there can be some genius teaching me how to ma

Re: the meaning of r’.......‘

On 7/23/2012 3:59 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie wrote: the meaning of r’...‘？ It's a raw string. http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/introduction.html#strings Strictly speaking, it is a raw string literal, which should be parsed as raw (str

Re: What's wrong with this code?

In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Stone Li wrote: > > > > I'm totally confused by this code: > > > > Code: > > Boiling it down to just the bit that matters: > > c = None > d = None > x = [c,d] > e,f = x > c = 1 > d = 2 > print e,f > > When you assign "e,

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

On 7/23/2012 11:33 AM bruceg113...@gmail.com said... I tried something similar to the example at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4312687/how-to-embed-images-in-email . Problem is, this line is not understood: mail.BodyFormat = OlBodyFormat.olFormatHTML If I read the example properl

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > I tried something similar to the example at > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4312687/how-to-embed-images-in-email . > > Problem is, this line is not understood: >mail.BodyFormat = OlBodyFormat.olFormatHTML > > Traceback (most recent call

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

> Problem is, this line is not understood: > > mail.BodyFormat = OlBodyFormat.olFormatHTML Try olBodyFormat (lower case 'o') Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ANN: dbf.py 0.94

Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: I'll support 3.3+, but not with the same code base: I want to use all the cool features that 3.3 has! :) The trouble with double-codebasing is that you have double maintenance. But sure. So long as your time isn't un

socket

hey guys i have a question i have not programmed in python for about 8 years now. i am trying to set up a simple password protected server. i have tried to research information but am not lucky. can someone point me in the right direction? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

Steven D'Aprano wrote: >Hey, if the Japanese and Chinese can manage it, English speakers can >surely find a way to enter π or ∞ without a keyboard the size of a >battleship. Japanese and Chinese programmers don't use (and don't seem to want to) use non-ASCII characters outside of strin

Re: ANN: dbf.py 0.94

Ethan Furman wrote: Alex Strickland wrote: "Not supported: index files": I have been using http://sourceforge.net/projects/harbour-project/ for years where a guy called Przemyslaw Czerpak has written an absolutely bullet proof implementation of NTX and CDX for DBF. Maybe it will interest you

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 16:55, Henrik Faber wrote: On 23.07.2012 15:52, Henrik Faber wrote: but I would hate for Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure this is not planned anytime soon. Dear Lord. Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 Type "h

Re: How to print stdout before writing stdin using subprocess module in Python?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:01:23 -0700, Sarbjit singh wrote: > proc = subprocess.Popen("cp -i a.txt b.txt", shell=True, > stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, > stderr=subprocess.STDOUT,) > stdout_val, stderr_val = proc.communicate() > print stdout_val b.txt? > > proc.communicate("y") >

Using Python packaging tools to maintain source distributions in other languages?

Greetings all, I would like to leverage the Python packaging tools (e.g. distutils, setuptools, distribute, et. al.) to maintain (i.e. download, extract, configure, make, install, package) source distributions other than Python modules (e.g. zlib, openssl). Are there any open-source packages/t

Re: Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:19 AM, wrote: > All, > > I am trying to figure out how to send a image in the body of a email when > Making a Meeting Request. You need to use html in the body with an tag that references the attachment. See: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4312687/how-to-embed-

Python and Outlook, sendinf an image in the body of email

All, I am trying to figure out how to send a image in the body of a email when Making a Meeting Request. Below is my current code. Thanks, Bruce # code below is mainly from http://harunprasad.blogspot.com/2012/01/python-make-meeting-request-appointment.html #

Re: Initial nose experience

Does nose run all of its collected tests in a single process? I've got a test which monkey-patches an imported module. Will all of the other tests collected in the same run of nosetests see the patch? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:29:33 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 23/07/2012 15:43, Henrik Faber wrote: [...] >> I might wait until April 1st next year with that ;-) >> >> Best regards, >> Henrik >> >> > Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? As a Brit (or at least s

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:52:32 +0200, Henrik Faber wrote: > If you allow for UTF-8 identifiers you'll have to be horribly careful > what to include and what to exclude. Is the non-breaking space a valid > character for a identifier? Technically it's a different character than > the normal space, so

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:24:21 +0200, Henrik Faber wrote: > I disagree. Firstly, Python could already support the different types of > strings even with the ASCII character set. For example, the choice could > have made to treat the apostophe string 'foo' differently from the > double quote string "

Re: Encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism

In article , Erik Max Francis wrote: >Anything's trivial to "write down." Just say "the number such that ..." >and you've written it down. Even "numbers" that aren't really numbers, >such as transfinite cardinals! Now it isn't trivial to write down. It has been proven (of course in an anti-in

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......��

Roy Smith wrote: >When I first started writing C code, it was on ASR-33s which did not >support curly baces. We wrote ¥( for { and ¥) for } (although I think the >translation was >handled entirely in the TTY driver and the compiler was never in on the >joke). 20 or 30 years from now,

Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (Although if you think about the implementation of dicts as hash tables, > it does seem likely that it is trivial to enforce this -- one would have > to work *harder* to break that promise than to keep it.) However, it would be quite reaso

Re: Encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > Example from recipee's: > > Stirr until the egg white is stiff. > > Alternative: > Stirr egg white for half an hour, > but if the egg white is stiff keep your spoon still. > > (Cooking is not my field of expertise, so the wording may >

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators > > Only one? Pfft. > > What's the difference between >> "Strictly greater than" and < "Greater > than"? The non-strict forms strip trailing spaces off strings before comparing. I can't remember

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:06:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage >> of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII >> and creating silly digrams/trigrams

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

In Mark Lawrence writes: > Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? In the United States, April 1st (also known as April Fool's Day) is an occasion for practical jokes, faked 'news' stories, and general silliness. I don't know if it is observed outside the U.S.

Re: the meaning of r.......ïŸ

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:55:22 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage > of the full unicode character set. I don't know about the full Unicode character set, since there are many more than 1 characters, and few languages require that m

Re: the meaning of r?.......ï¾

On 23/07/2012 14:24, Henrik Faber wrote: [snip] And if I think of PHP's latest fiasco that happened with unicode characters, it makes me shudder to think you'd want that stuff in Python. If I remember correctly, it was the Turkish locale that they stuggled with: Turkey apparently does not have a

Re: Converting a list of strings into a list of integers?

On Jul 23, 7:27 pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > That said, "map" seems to be frowned upon by the Python community for > reasons I've never really understood,... Maybe the analogy: comprehension : map:: relational calculus : relational algebra In particular map, filter correspond to project and

Re: What's wrong with this code?

On 7/23/2012 7:50 AM Stone Li said... I'm totally confused by this code: Code: a = None b = None c = None d = None x = [[a,b], [c,d]] e,f = x[1] print e,f This prints the first None,None c = 1 d = 2 print e,f And nothing has happened to e

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23/07/2012 15:43, Henrik Faber wrote: On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have domino tiles are identifier characters? 🀻 = 9 File "", line 1 🀻 = 9 ^ SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier

Re: Encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism

In article <5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the function >when you already have the result? When your calculation is done, it's >done, just return for goodness sake. You wouldn't write a sear

Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:58:37 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Philipp Hagemeister, 23.07.2012 13:40: >> On 07/23/2012 01:23 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: >>> With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() guaraneed >>> to be in the same order? >> >> Yes. From the documentation[1]: >> >> If i

Re: What's wrong with this code?

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Stone Li wrote: > > I'm totally confused by this code: > > Code: Boiling it down to just the bit that matters: c = None d = None x = [c,d] e,f = x c = 1 d = 2 print e,f When you assign "e,f = x", you're taking the iterable x and unpacking its contents. There's

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Henrik Faber wrote: > No, you misunderstood me. I didn't say people are going to write > gibberish. What I'm saying is that as a foreigner (who doesn't know most > of these characters), it can be hard to accurately choose which one is > the correct one. This is es

What's wrong with this code?

I'm totally confused by this code: Code: > a = None > b = None > c = None > d = None > x = [[a,b], > [c,d]] > e,f = x[1] > print e,f > c = 1 > d = 2 > print e,f > e = 1 > f = 2 > print c,d > > Output: None None > None None > 1 2 > I'm expecting the code as: > None None > 1 2 > 1 2 > > W

Re: A thread import problem

Bruce Sherwood writes: > ... > There's nothing wrong with the current VPython architecture, which > does use good style, but there are two absolute, conflicting > requirements that I have to meet. > > (1) The simple program API I've shown must be preserved, because there > exist a large number of

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Henrik Faber wrote: > No, you misunderstood me. I didn't say people are going to write > gibberish. What I'm saying is that as a foreigner (who doesn't know most > of these characters), it can be hard to accurately choose which one is > the correct one. This is es

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have >> domino tiles are identifier characters? >> > 🀻 = 9 >>File "", line 1 >> 🀻 = 9 >> ^ >> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier >> >> I think there ne

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 16:10, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Henrik Faber wrote: >> If you allow for UTF-8 identifiers you'll have to be horribly careful >> what to include and what to exclude. Is the non-breaking space a valid >> character for a identifier? Technically it's a d

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 16:19, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: >> What about × vs x? Or Ì vs Í vs Î vs Ï vs Ĩ vs Ī vs ī vs Ĭ vs ĭ vs Į vs >> į vs I vs İ? Do you think if you need to maintain such code you'll >> immediately know the difference between the 13 (!)

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23/07/2012 14:59, Henrik Faber wrote: On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: Dear Lord. Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. fööbär = 3 fööbär 3 I didn't know this. How awful.

Re: Converting a list of strings into a list of integers?

On 2012-07-22, Jan Riechers wrote: > I am not sure why everyone is using the for-iterator option over a > "map", but I would do it like that: > > MODUS_LIST= map(int, options.modus_list) > > "map" works on a list and does commandX (here "int" conversion, use > "str" for string.. et cetera) on s

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: > What about × vs x? Or Ì vs Í vs Î vs Ï vs Ĩ vs Ī vs ī vs Ĭ vs ĭ vs Į vs > į vs I vs İ? Do you think if you need to maintain such code you'll > immediately know the difference between the 13 (!) different "I"s I just > happened to pull out ran

Re: reloading code and multiprocessing

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM, andrea crotti wrote: > Anyway the only other problem which I found is that if I start the > subprocesses after many other things are initialised, it might happen > that the reloading doesn't work correctly, is that right? > > Because sys.modules will get inherited

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

Henrik Faber writes: > On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > >> Dear Lord. >> >> Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) >> [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > fööbär = 3 > fööbär >> 3 >> >> I didn't know thi

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Henrik Faber wrote: > If you allow for UTF-8 identifiers you'll have to be horribly careful > what to include and what to exclude. Is the non-breaking space a valid > character for a identifier? Technically it's a different character than > the normal space, so why

Re: A thread import problem

Thanks much for the useful suggestion, and also thanks for your sympathy and understanding of my plight! Bruce Sherwood On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Bruce Sherwood > wrote: >> (2) My hand is forced by Apple no longer supporting Car

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > Dear Lord. > > Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) > [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. fööbär = 3 fööbär > 3 > > I didn't know this. How awful. Apparently, not all c

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:52, Henrik Faber wrote: > but I would hate for > Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure > this is not planned anytime soon. Dear Lord. Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "licens

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote: > That said, though, there's good argument in allowing full Unicode in > *identifiers*. If I'm allowed to name something "foo", then a German > should be allowed to name something "foö". And since identifiers are > case sensitive (at least, they are in a

Re: reloading code and multiprocessing

2012/7/20 Chris Angelico : > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM, andrea crotti > wrote: >> We need to be able to reload code on a live system. This live system >> has a daemon process always running but it runs many subprocesses with >> multiprocessing, and the subprocesses might have a short life..

Re: can someone teach me this?

On 2012-07-21, Menghsiu Lee wrote: > Hi, > I have tried 1000 times to compile this python file to be an exe file > by using py2exe and gui2exe But, it does not work out. I am thinking > if there can be some genius teaching me how to make this happen. The > link in below is the complete code wi

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: > And if I think of PHP's latest fiasco that happened with unicode > characters, it makes me shudder to think you'd want that stuff in > Python. If I remember correctly, it was the Turkish locale that they > stuggled with: Turkey apparently doe

Re: How to print stdout before writing stdin using subprocess module in Python?

Sarbjit singh wrote: > I am writing a script in which in the external system command may > sometimes require user input. I am not able to handle that properly. I > have tried using os.popen4 and subprocess module but could not achieve the > desired behavior. > > Below mentioned example would show

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 14:55, Roy Smith wrote: > Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage > of the full unicode character set. Plus, if I may add this: It's *your* newsreader that broke the correctly declared ISO-8859-7 encoded subject of the OP. What a bitter irony that de

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 14:55, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491...@news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used >> some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashion

Re: the meaning of r�.......?3�4

In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with > ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you > get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly > generally available keyboards that have those key

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On 07/23/2012 09:06 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage >> of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII >> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 2012/07/23 02:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line strings). Not to

Re: default repr?

On 23 July 2012 01:24, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:54:00 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Dan Stromberg > > wrote: > >> If a class has defined its own __repr__ method, is there a way of > >> getting the default repr output for that class any

Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage > of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII > and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and > triple-quotes for multi-line >

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Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......��

In article <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used > some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashioned > typewriter-style quotes r'' or r"". > > If

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Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

On 23.07.2012 13:40, Philipp Hagemeister wrote: > On 07/23/2012 01:23 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: >> With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() >> guaraneed to be in the same order? > > Yes. From the documentation[1]: > > If items(), keys(), values(), iteritems(), iterkeys(), and ite

Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

Philipp Hagemeister, 23.07.2012 13:40: > On 07/23/2012 01:23 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: >> With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() >> guaraneed to be in the same order? > > Yes. From the documentation[1]: > > If items(), keys(), values(), iteritems(), iterkeys(), and itervalues()

Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

Henrik Faber, 23.07.2012 13:23: > I have a question of which I'm unsure if the specification guarantees > it. With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() > guaraneed to be in the same order? I.e. what I mean is: > > # For all dictionaries d: > assert({ list(d.keys())[i]: list(d.val

Re: python package confusion

On 23/07/12 12:16, David wrote: On 23/07/2012, Lipska the Kat wrote: Hello again pythoners [snip] > Any help much appreciated. Hi Lipska Glad you got it sorted. In case you are not aware of this: Tutor maillist - tu...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

On 07/23/2012 01:23 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: > With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() > guaraneed to be in the same order? Yes. From the documentation[1]: If items(), keys(), values(), iteritems(), iterkeys(), and itervalues() are called with no intervening modifications to th

dict: keys() and values() order guaranteed to be same?

Hi group, I have a question of which I'm unsure if the specification guarantees it. With an arbitrary dictionaty d, are d.keys() and d.values() guaraneed to be in the same order? I.e. what I mean is: # For all dictionaries d: assert({ list(d.keys())[i]: list(d.values())[i] for i in range(len(d))

Re: python package confusion

On 23/07/2012, Lipska the Kat wrote: > Hello again pythoners [snip] > Any help much appreciated. Hi Lipska Glad you got it sorted. In case you are not aware of this: Tutor maillist - tu...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor The tutor list caters specifically for

Re: python package confusion

On 23/07/12 11:22, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote: The PYTHONPATH ev is set to /home/lipska/python/dev/mods:. in .bashrc Did you export it? Show us your .bashrc, or the relevant line in it exactly. (And make sure that it isn't defined multiple ti

Re: python package confusion

On 23/07/12 11:19, Dave Angel wrote: On 07/23/2012 06:02 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote: Hello again pythoners snip That line isn't the way you showed it in the source. You showed us source as fibo.fib(1000), and the error message shows it as fib(1000) So you're either cutting& pasting wrong,

Re: python package confusion

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote: > The PYTHONPATH ev is set to /home/lipska/python/dev/mods:. > in .bashrc Did you export it? Show us your .bashrc, or the relevant line in it exactly. (And make sure that it isn't defined multiple times). Also adding . to the import search p

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