Am 20.04.2011 01:54, schrieb Grant Edwards:
> I guess the problem is that I expected to receive a packet on an
> interface anytime a packet was received with a destination IP address
> that matched that of the the interface. Apprently there's some
> filtering in the network stack based on the _sou
Am Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:28:50 -0700 (PDT)
schrieb Jean-Paul Calderone :
> It is completely insecure. Do not use pickle and
> sockets together.
Yes pickle is like eval, but that doesnt mean that one should never
ever use it over a socket connection.
What about ssl sockets where client and server
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> What is the scope the code is running in? If this is part of a class
> definition, that could explain why the lambda is not seeing the type /
> posttype closure: because there isn't one.
It's inside an if, but that's all. The body of the code h
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
>> Built-ins aren't quite the same as globals, but essentially yes:
>
> Sure. That might explain some of the weirdness, but it doesn't explain
> why things were still weird with the varia
On 4/19/2011 11:39 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
If one is new to Python and perhaps not sure, or should not be sure,
then I prefer that one ask here for a second opinion.
Thanks Terry. I am not new to Python, but I am new to Python3, and I'm
also relatively new to IDLE. Typically
Passiday wrote:
I think Python is a very important language to learn - both easy and advanced,
with very wide support in different platforms, with loads of great applications
that can be scripted by it, and great community support.
Yes. In my opinion, Python is the new BASIC. I date back to
Of course, I meant the "tinkering, playing with, etc." meaning. That would be
quite strange to look for an advice "how to break the Pentagon's systems" in
public forum :) And while I plan to tell them about the "practical
programming" (ie, typical tasks what they would be doing when hired), I t
Passiday wrote:
I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
I am looking for some good material, what I could use as a basic guide when
preparing the classes plan for the course - website or book, what would roll
ou
On 20/04/2011 12:40 AM, Eric Frederich wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to get an installer built with distutils to recognize
multiple installations.
The installer currently finds my installation at C:\Python27
I have a custom Python27 built myself with Visual Studio sitting
somewhere else, say C:\MyPy
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sourav wrote:
> Hacking??
1) Tinkering, programming, building furniture with an axe.
2) Breaking and entering in the electronic world.
I assume the OP meant #1, although when I talk about "hacking" in this
sort of sense, I'm thinking more in terms of tinkering w
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> Built-ins aren't quite the same as globals, but essentially yes:
Sure. That might explain some of the weirdness, but it doesn't explain
why things were still weird with the variable named posttype. However,
since the list comp appears to work
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>> "Rhodri James" writes:
>>
>>> Language abuse: it's not just Python. A donation of just $5 will keep
>>> a programmer in prepositions for a month. $50 will supply enough
>>> articles to keep a s
Lot of tutorials on net. Specially Python's own site.
Dive into Python seems a good start
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> type=lst[0]["type"].lower()
>>
>> Tangent: Don't call it "type"; you're shadowing the built-in class of
>> the same name
Terry Reedy wrote:
If one is new to Python and perhaps not sure, or should not be sure,
then I prefer that one ask here for a second opinion.
Thanks Terry. I am not new to Python, but I am new to Python3, and I'm
also relatively new to IDLE. Typically I edit with vi, test on the
terminal, and
In article ,
Grant Edwards wrote:
> I'm trying to implement a device discovery/configuration protocol that
> uses UDP broadcast packets to discover specific types of devices on
> the local Ethernet segment. The management program broadcasts a
> discovery command to a particular UDP port. All d
On Apr 19, 8:23 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM, ray wrote:
> > I wonder if there is a solution to provide remote connections between
> > two computers similar to Remote Desktop. The difference I am looking
> > for is to be able to deliver speech/audio from the local ma
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> type=lst[0]["type"].lower()
>
> Tangent: Don't call it "type"; you're shadowing the built-in class of
> the same name.
By "shadowing" you mean that the global variable still exists
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> type=lst[0]["type"].lower()
Tangent: Don't call it "type"; you're shadowing the built-in class of
the same name.
Cheers,
Chris
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> type=lst[0]["type"].lower()
>
> lst=filter(lambda x: x["type"].lower()==type,lst) # Restrict to that one type
After posting, I realised that "type" is a built-in identifier, and
did a quick variable name change to "posttype" which shouldn't
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> I agree though that you're kind of pushing IP in a direction it wasn't
> intended to go.
It just occurred to me: You might get some additional mileage out of
popping the network adapter into promiscuous mode. In fact, it Might
be necessary
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Or can you simply use a stupid netmask like /1 that picks up all the
>> IP ranges? That way, the source-IP check wouldn't fail.
>
> That would require that the device somehow knows that it's not
> configured correctly and should change the
Context: Embedded Python interpreter, version 2.6.6
I have a list of dictionaries, where each dictionary has a "type"
element which is a string. I want to reduce the list to just the
dictionaries which have the same "type" as the first one.
lst=[{"type":"calc",...},{"type":"fixed",...},{"type":"c
On 2011-04-20, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>>> Or can you simply use a stupid netmask like /1 that picks up all the
>>> IP ranges? That way, the source-IP check wouldn't fail.
>>
>> That would require that the device somehow knows that it's no
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
"Rhodri James" writes:
Language abuse: it's not just Python. A donation of just $5 will keep
a programmer in prepositions for a month. $50 will supply enough
articles to keep a small company understandable for over a year. With
your generous help, w
On Apr 19, 6:27 pm, Roger Alexander wrote:
> Thanks everybody, got it working.
>
> I appreciate the help!
>
> Roger.
It's too bad none of the other respondents pointed out to you that you
_shouldn't do this_! Pickle is not suitable for use over the network
like this. Your server accepts arbitr
Here are a few tutorials which may be helpful for notes &etc:
Author,Series,Lectures,Slides/Documentation,Assignments,Difficulty
MIT,A Gentle Introduction to Programming Using Python,on iTunes
Uÿhttp://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/introduction-to-computer-science/id341597455,http://stuff.mit.edu/i
Hi all,
Is there a compatible way to use meteclasses
in both Python 2.x (2.6 to 2.7) and Python 3.x
(3.0 to 3.2).
Python 2.x:
class Foo(object):
__meteclass__ = MyMetaClass
Python 3.x:
class Foo(metaclass=MyMetaClass):
pass
Thanks,
cheers
James
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Author
Series
Lectures Slides/Documentation
Assignments
Difficulty
MIT
A Gentle Introduction to Programming Using Python
on iTunes U
http://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/introduction-to-computer-science/id341597455
http://stuff.mit.edu/iap/python/
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engi
Passiday writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who
> have in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
>
> I am looking for some good material, what I could use as a basic guide
> when preparing the classes plan for the course - website or book,
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Or can you simply use a stupid netmask like /1 that picks up all the
>> IP ranges? That way, the source-IP check wouldn't fail.
>
> That would require that the device somehow knows that it's not
> configured correctly and should change the
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM, ray wrote:
> I wonder if there is a solution to provide remote connections between
> two computers similar to Remote Desktop. The difference I am looking
> for is to be able to deliver speech/audio from the local machine to
> the remote machine which will process
On 2011-04-20, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> The management program can then send another broadcast packet to
>> configure the IP address of a device. After that, the management
>> program switches over to normal unicast TCP and UDP protocols
I wonder if there is a solution to provide remote connections between
two computers similar to Remote Desktop. The difference I am looking
for is to be able to deliver speech/audio from the local machine to
the remote machine which will process the audio via Dragon Naturally
Speaking.
As an addit
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> The management program can then send another broadcast packet to
> configure the IP address of a device. After that, the management
> program switches over to normal unicast TCP and UDP protocols (HTTP,
> TFTP, etc.) to set up the device.
>
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM, andrew cooke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been staring at this problem, in various forms, all day. Am I missing
> something obvious, or is there some strange hardwiring of isinstance? This
> is with Python 3.2.
>
> class A(metaclass=ABCMeta):
> @clas
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> If I send a packet to ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff--255.255.255.255, it's because
> I want everybody on the Ethernet segment to receive it. If I wanted
> only people on a particular subnet (e.g. 10.0.0.0/8) to receive it, I
> would have sent it to the
OK, sorry, I see the mistake. I'm confusing __class__ on the instance and on
te class (the latter being the metaclass). Sorry again, Andrew
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On 2011-04-19, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote:
>> On 20-4-2011 1:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> If I don't call bind(), then the broadcast packets go out the wrong
>>> interface on the sending machine.
>>>
>>
>> Fair enough.
>>
>> Next issue then: as
Dan Stromberg writes:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, geremy condra wrote:
> > When you say 'hacking', you mean ?
>
> Presumably he meant the real meaning of the word, not what the press
> made up and ran with.
To be fair, the press already had its own pejorative meaning of “hack”
before
On 2011-04-19, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> I'm have problems figuring out how to receive UDP broadcast packets on
>> Linux.
>>
>> Here's the receiving code:
>>
>> --receive.py---
>
>> Bu
Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
Also boolean xor is the same as !=.
Only if you have booleans. Even without short circuiting,
a boolean xor operator could provide the service of
automatically booling things for you (is that a word?).
Jean-Paul
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Also, there's something strange about the number of arguments (they're not
consistent between the two examples - the "A" to __instancecheck__ should not
be needed). Yet it compiles and runs like that. Very confused :o(
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On 2011-04-19, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 20-4-2011 1:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> If I don't call bind(), then the broadcast packets go out the wrong
>> interface on the sending machine.
>
> Fair enough.
>
> Next issue then: as far as I know, broadcast packets are by default
> not routed across
Hi,
I've been staring at this problem, in various forms, all day. Am I missing
something obvious, or is there some strange hardwiring of isinstance? This is
with Python 3.2.
class A(metaclass=ABCMeta):
@classmethod
def __instancecheck__(cls, instance): return F
How about this. http://inventwithpython.com/
thanks,
Allan
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:35 PM, geremy condra wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Dan Stromberg
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, geremy condra
> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Passiday wrote:
> >>>
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 20-4-2011 1:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> If I don't call bind(), then the broadcast packets go out the wrong
>> interface on the sending machine.
>>
>
> Fair enough.
>
> Next issue then: as far as I know, broadcast packets are by default
We have been teaching game programming using python in my school district for a
few years now. We started out using python programming for the absolute
beginner. It was good, but didn't use pygame and was mostly text based until
the
last 2 chapters. Another book for reference is Game Programmi
On 20-4-2011 1:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> If I don't call bind(), then the broadcast packets go out the wrong
> interface on the sending machine.
>
Fair enough.
Next issue then: as far as I know, broadcast packets are by default not routed
across
subnets by gateways. Which is a good thing.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I'm have problems figuring out how to receive UDP broadcast packets on
> Linux.
>
> Here's the receiving code:
>
> --receive.py---
> But, the receiving Python program never sees any pac
"Rhodri James" writes:
> Language abuse: it's not just Python. A donation of just $5 will keep
> a programmer in prepositions for a month. $50 will supply enough
> articles to keep a small company understandable for over a year. With
> your generous help, we can beat this scourge!
I lately lost
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Passiday wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
>>> in-depth interest in programming, h
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Passiday wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
> in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
>
> I am looking for some good material, what I could use as a basic guide when
> preparing the classes plan f
On 2011-04-19, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 20-4-2011 0:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I'm have problems figuring out how to receive UDP broadcast packets on
>> Linux.
>>
> [...]
>
>> Here's the sending code:
>>
>> send.py---
>> #!/usr/bin/py
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, geremy condra wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Passiday wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
>> in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
>>
>> I am looking for some good material, what I
On 20-4-2011 0:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I'm have problems figuring out how to receive UDP broadcast packets on
> Linux.
>
[...]
> Here's the sending code:
>
> send.py---
> #!/usr/bin/python
> import sys,socket,time
>
> host = sys.arg
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Passiday wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
> in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
>
> I am looking for some good material, what I could use as a basic guide when
> preparing the classes plan f
Hello,
I am planning to teach Python to a group of high school students, who have
in-depth interest in programming, hacking etc.
I am looking for some good material, what I could use as a basic guide when
preparing the classes plan for the course - website or book, what would roll
out the topi
Thanks everybody, got it working.
I appreciate the help!
Roger.
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I'm have problems figuring out how to receive UDP broadcast packets on
Linux.
Here's the receiving code:
--receive.py---
#!/usr/bin/python
import socket
host = ''
port = 5010
s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
s.setsockop
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Rhodri James
wrote:
> Language abuse: it's not just Python. A donation of just $5 will keep a
> programmer in prepositions for a month. $50 will supply enough articles to
> keep a small company understandable for over a year. With your generous
> help, we can be
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:47:40 +0100, Gerald Britton
wrote:
Gerald Britton wrote:
I now understand the Python does
not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for
function definitions. That is a helpful understanding.
That is not correct. Classes are separate namesp
> I tried to create another 2.7 key but regedit wouldn't let me.
> So, if I can only have one 2.7 key, it would seem that the routine
> GetPythonVersions will only ever get 1 version of 2.7.
> Does this mean that it is unsupported to have more than one Python 2.7
> installation on Windows?
Exactly
> Thanks Martin, I'm glad these older releases are still getting important
> fixes.
>
> I notice http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5.6/NEWS.txt says the
> release date was 17 Apr 2010. Presumably that should have said 2011.
Thanks for pointing it out. I fixed it in the repository, so it
On 19-4-2011 19:06, cjblaine wrote:
> What breaks if I remove lib/python2.7/test/* ? What purpose does it serve?
>
> It is 26MB for me.
>
> I am trying to trim my Python install for good reason.
>
> Thanks for any info!
Terry answered what it is for. Personally, I also once used some functions
Announcing
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The 2.8.12.0 release of wxPython is now available for download at
http://wxpython.org/download.php. This release has no major new
features or enhancements, but there have been plenty of bug fixes
since the last stable release.
Source code is available as a tarball, and bina
Try this on your *nix command line: echo ">$100"
On a *nix command line, the '$1' part of ">$100" will be seen as 'give me the
value of the shell variable "1"', and since it has no value, will result in an
empty string. So it's not optparse, or Python, because the literal string you
intend to
tazz_ben wrote:
> So, I'm using optparse as follows:
>
> Command line:
> python expense.py ">$100" -f ~/desktop/test.txt
> ['>00']
>
>
> In Main:
>
> desc = ''
> p = optparse.OptionParser(description=desc)
>
> utilities = optparse.OptionGroup(p, 'Utility Options')
> utilities.add_option('--fi
In
tazz_ben writes:
> So, any ideas? Why is including a $ eating both the dollar signa and the 1?
Unix command lines tend to assume any $ inside double-quotes is a shell
variable name. Try enclosing in single-quotes instead.
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So, I'm using optparse as follows:
Command line:
python expense.py ">$100" -f ~/desktop/test.txt
['>00']
In Main:
desc = ''
p = optparse.OptionParser(description=desc)
utilities = optparse.OptionGroup(p, 'Utility Options')
utilities.add_option('--file', '-f', dest="file", help="Define
Yes, Dan is right, it looked for the sources, and you have only binaries on
your system. Look in your distribution repositories for the *-devel or alike
for the 5 that failed and try again.
2011/4/19 Dan Stromberg
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Rob McGillivray
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> I played around with it until something worked, and ended up with the
> below. The most significant change was probably using sc.makefile
> instead of s.makefile in the server...
Oh! I didn't notice that in the OP. Yep, that would do it!
C
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roger Alexander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to pickle Python objects over a TCP
> socket.
>
> In the example below (based on code from Foundations of Python Network
> Programming), a client creates a dictionary (lines 34-38) and uses
> pickle.dum
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Roger Alexander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to pickle Python objects over a TCP
> socket.
>
> In the example below (based on code from Foundations of Python Network
> Programming), a client creates a dictionary (lines 34-38) and uses
> pickle.dump
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Roger Alexander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to pickle Python objects over a TCP
> socket.
>
> In the example below (based on code from Foundations of Python Network
> Programming), a client creates a dictionary (lines 34-38) and uses
> pickle.dum
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Rob McGillivray
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm new to Python, and trying to get python 3.2 installed on Centos 5.6. When
> I run 'make test', I receive several errors. The readme states that you can
> generally ignore messages about skipped tests, but as you can see be
On 4/19/2011 1:33 PM, Rob McGillivray wrote:
I am trying to install from an RPM downloaded from python.org.
That puzzles me. For *nix, I do not see .rpm, just tarballs, on
http://python.org/download/releases/3.2/
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Hi,
I'm trying to understand how to pickle Python objects over a TCP
socket.
In the example below (based on code from Foundations of Python Network
Programming), a client creates a dictionary (lines 34-38) and uses
pickle.dump at line 42 to write the pickled object using file handle
make from a s
Is there a way to make distutils use --install-layout=deb
but only on systems where that makes sense?
I just noticed that if someone installs without that switch,
my app will not be able to find its data files, because
sys.prefix = /usr but the installation is actually in to
/usr/local
I suppo
Hi Terry,
Much appreciate the pointers! :-)
I am trying to install from an RPM downloaded from python.org. I'm pretty new
to Linux etc (very pleased to be finally getting into the wide world of OSS),
so I'm double-challenged on a number of fronts right now.
I will run the failed tests in verbo
On 4/19/2011 1:06 PM, cjblaine wrote:
What breaks if I remove lib/python2.7/test/* ? What purpose does it serve?
It allows you to run the test suite. Some people like to run it when
they install. Or they may run a module test if they have a problem with
a specific module or edit the Python c
On 4/19/2011 10:58 AM, Gerald Britton wrote:
serve method unless it is qualified. I now understand the Python does
not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for
function definitions.
Class namespaces are separate namespaces but not in the same way as for
functions. C
What breaks if I remove lib/python2.7/test/* ? What purpose does it serve?
It is 26MB for me.
I am trying to trim my Python install for good reason.
Thanks for any info!
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Gerald Britton wrote:
>>
>> I now understand the Python does
>> not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for
>> function definitions. That is a helpful understanding.
>
> That is not correct. Classes are separate n
On 4/19/2011 10:55 AM, Rob McGillivray wrote:
I'm new to Python, and trying to get python 3.2 installed on Centos
5.6. When I run 'make test', I receive several errors.
Welcome to Python.
Newbie lesson 1: write an informative subject line that will catch the
attention of people who can answe
>Gerald Britton wrote:
>> I now understand the Python does
>> not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for
>> function definitions. That is a helpful understanding.
>That is not correct. Classes are separate namespaces -- they just
>aren't automatically searched. The o
I have a great solution : stop using reload. It often dangerous and more
often silly.
On Apr 7, 2011 5:44 AM, "harrismh777" wrote:
All right... somebody is sacked (er, fired) !
Who moved reload()?
This kinda stuff is driving me bonkers... there was no need to move reload()
anyplace...
... so
Gerald Britton wrote:
I now understand the Python does
not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for
function definitions. That is a helpful understanding.
That is not correct. Classes are separate namespaces -- they just
aren't automatically searched. The only name
In article ,
Yogesh Gupta wrote:
> I am trying to run a python based program on MacOSX, which needs following
> packages
>
> numpy
> PIL
> matplotlib
>
> I can successfully import all 3 using python2.5 (only using /sw64/bin/python
> or /sw64/bin/python2.5) , although i have python2.6 and 2.7 in
On Apr 19, 10:23 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
> > Am 18.04.2011 21:58, schrieb John Nagle:
> >> ?? ?? This is typical for languages which backed into a "bool" type,
> >> rather than having one designed in. ??The usual result is a boolean
> >>
Hello,
I am trying to run a python based program on MacOSX, which needs following
packages
numpy
PIL
matplotlib
I can successfully import all 3 using python2.5 (only using /sw64/bin/python
or /sw64/bin/python2.5) , although i have python2.6 and 2.7 installed. I get
following error when in run ex
Hi All,
I'm new to Python, and trying to get python 3.2 installed on Centos 5.6. When I
run 'make test', I receive several errors. The readme states that you can
generally ignore messages about skipped tests, but as you can see below, some
of the tests failed and a number were 'unexpected skips
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:20:05AM -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Timo Schmiade wrote:
> > Just one question remains now: What is a "Borg" in this context?
>
> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/66531/
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Thank
Ethan -- I'm just getting back to this question. If you recall, you asked:
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"script with possible name clashes"
eggs = 'scrambled eggs'
meat = 'steak'
class Breakfast():
meat = 'spam'
def serve(self):
print("Here's
Hello,
I am trying to get an installer built with distutils to recognize
multiple installations.
The installer currently finds my installation at C:\Python27
I have a custom Python27 built myself with Visual Studio sitting
somewhere else, say C:\MyPython27.
I looked at PC/bdist_wininst/install.c
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
> Am 18.04.2011 21:58, schrieb John Nagle:
>> ?? ?? This is typical for languages which backed into a "bool" type,
>> rather than having one designed in. ??The usual result is a boolean
>> type with numerical semantics, like
>>
>> ??>>> Tru
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Timo Schmiade wrote:
> Just one question remains now: What is a "Borg" in this context?
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/66531/
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I do not have a DLLs folder.
I created this installation of Python myself since I needed it built
with Visual Studio 2005.
I followed instructions under PC\readme.txt
This file mentioned nothing about a DLLs folder.
>From PC\readme.txt .
The best installation strategy is to put the Py
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 19:00 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> > but I don't see how
> >
> > (arbitrary expression) + (another expression) + ... + (last expression)
> >
> > can have any guarantees applied. I mean, you can't even guarantee tha
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