Re: Difference between import in script and from interpreter

2010-07-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:53:56 -0400, Edward Diener wrote: > In a python script a: > > from xxx.yyy.zzz import aaa > > fails with the message: > > "ImportError: No module named xxx.yyy.zzz" > > but from within the python interpreter the same line succeeds. What > would be the causes of that ? >

Difference between import in script and from interpreter

2010-07-18 Thread Edward Diener
In a python script a: from xxx.yyy.zzz import aaa fails with the message: "ImportError: No module named xxx.yyy.zzz" but from within the python interpreter the same line succeeds. What would be the causes of that ? From within the python interpreter I have looked at sys.path and xxx.yyy.zz

Human Rights In An Islamic State

2010-07-18 Thread nais-saudi
Human Rights In An Islamic State Human Rights In An Islamic State 1. The Security Of Life And Property: In the address which the Prophet delivered on the occasion of the Farewell Hajj, he said: "Your lives and properties are forbidden to one another till you meet your Lord on the Day of Resurrecti

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread python
And don't forget the oft requested strip_tease(). Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Print file via file association using os.system or subprocess? (Windows)

2010-07-18 Thread python
Hi Mark, > You probably want to use the windows ShellExec function with a 'print' verb. Thanks Mark! And cheers for the great win32api library!! I've included a link[1] on how to do this for anyone searching the archives. Malcolm [1] Print via ShellExecute (prints to the user's default printer

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread Ethan Furman
MRAB wrote: [snip] How about 'strip_str', 'lstrip_str' and 'rstrip_str', or something similar? +1 on the names ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Print file via file association using os.system or subprocess? (Windows)

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Hammond
On 19/07/2010 3:46 AM, pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: Under Windows: Is there a way to print a file using the file's file extension association using either the os.system or subprocess modules (vs. win32 extensions)? Use case: print PDF or Office documents to default printer without having to distribu

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/07/2010 23:58, Edward A. Falk wrote: In article<334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, be.krul wrote: why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. I see little or nothing because I

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Edward A. Falk
In article , Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote: > >Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay. Or if ISPs refused to tolerate it from their customers. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Edward A. Falk
In article <334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, be.krul wrote: >why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http://thespamdiaries.blogspo

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman at KTH on emacs history and internals

2010-07-18 Thread Kenneth Tilton
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message , Nick Keighley wrote: On 16 July, 09:24, Mark Tarver wrote: On 15 July, 23:21, bolega wrote: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/stallman-kth.html RMS lecture at KTH (Sweden), 30 October 1986 did you really have to post all of this... read more »...

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Jul, 07:01, "be.krul" wrote: > why is this group being spammed? There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I don't think they are actively maintained anymore. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread News123
MRAB wrote: > News123 wrote: >> Thomas Jollans wrote: >> >>> string.rstrip( [ '-dir' ] ) or as string.rstrip( '-dir' ) >>> The former should certainly raise an exception. '-dir' is not a single >>> character ! >>> Or it should actually strip '-dir', or '-dir-dir', but not 'r--i'...

Re: [Python-Dev] Function Operators

2010-07-18 Thread Terry Reedy
Christopher Olah In mathematical notation, f*g = z->f(g(z)) and f^n = f*f*f... (n times). I often run into situations in python where such operators could result in cleaner code. Python has a general mechanism for composing functions to make new functions: the def statement. "z = f*g" is a spe

Re: [Python-Dev] Function Operators

2010-07-18 Thread Christopher Olah
Firstly, apologies for posting to the wrong list. Since I was fiddling around with a modification to the language, if the implementation details of something I'd never expect to get accepted, I'd thought python-dev might be appropriate... In retrospect, it is fairly clear that it was the wrong choi

Print file via file association using os.system or subprocess? (Windows)

2010-07-18 Thread python
Under Windows: Is there a way to print a file using the file's file extension association using either the os.system or subprocess modules (vs. win32 extensions)? Use case: print PDF or Office documents to default printer without having to distribute win32 extensions. Thanks, Malcolm -- http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Function Operators

2010-07-18 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/18/2010 05:52 PM, Reid Kleckner wrote: > Usual disclaimer: python-dev is for the development *of* python, not > *with*. See python-list, etc. Moving to python-list. Please keep discussion there. > > That said, def declares new functions or methods, so you can't put > arbitrary expressions

Re: GNU Emacs Developement Inefficiency (commentary)

2010-07-18 Thread Tom Lord
On Jul 17, 11:11 am, Emmy Noether wrote: > Well, there is a lot of resistance from the emacs community in sharing > information. Richard Stallman is a true STALLER of progress. He has > held the whole process hostage by not sharing information. He has > RENEGED on his promise to make it truly ope

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread MRAB
News123 wrote: Thomas Jollans wrote: string.rstrip( [ '-dir' ] ) or as string.rstrip( '-dir' ) The former should certainly raise an exception. '-dir' is not a single character ! Or it should actually strip '-dir', or '-dir-dir', but not 'r--i'... but that's just silly. It's silly with the

Re: Is '[' a function or an operator or an language feature?

2010-07-18 Thread python
Thomas, > In slightly related news, I just stumbled upon this: > http://catb.org/esr/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html > > Now of course, he had it tough. Tough??? Well we had it tough. Our computers[1][2] had 0 bytes of RAM and 0 bytes of ROM. We had to hand wire our logic and physically push data

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Johannes Kleese wrote: > On 18.07.2010 08:09, geremy condra wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet >> wrote: > >>> in in a social group by sharing that group's behavior and values. This >>> instinct is possibly stronger than the sex

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Emmy Noether writes: > On Jul 18, 12:27 am, David Kastrup wrote: > >> What did you ever do to _deserve_ others working for you? > > What did we do to deserve him to write that elisp manual of 800+ > pages ? NOTHING. So once one gives you something, you demand everything? > He gave it to us in

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread News123
Thomas Jollans wrote: > > >> string.rstrip( [ '-dir' ] ) >> or as >> string.rstrip( '-dir' ) > > The former should certainly raise an exception. '-dir' is not a single > character ! > Or it should actually strip '-dir', or '-dir-dir', but not 'r--i'... but > that's just silly. > It's silly wi

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Richard Heathfield
Emmy Noether wrote: On Jul 18, 1:09 am, Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: Emmy Noether writes: On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, bolega wrote: In this video, Stall man makes 4 promises to public but stalls on 2nd of them. I have no idea of the rights or wrongs of this case. But I've found th

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/18/2010 01:18 PM, News123 wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 17/07/2010 23:17, MRAB wrote: >>> Chris Rebert wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, MRAB wrote: > Jason Friedman wrote: It's a pity that str.strip() doesn't actually take a set() of length-1 string

Re: create dynamic instance

2010-07-18 Thread Ray
thanks a lot. I was really stupid. of course I should keep a references to use it later. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: rstrip()

2010-07-18 Thread News123
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 17/07/2010 23:17, MRAB wrote: >> Chris Rebert wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, MRAB >>> wrote: Jason Friedman wrote: >>> >>> It's a pity that str.strip() doesn't actually take a set() of length-1 >>> strings, which would make its behavior more obvious and

Re: Is '[' a function or an operator or an language feature?

2010-07-18 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/17/2010 04:59 AM, pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: > Tim, > >> 2.x?! You were lucky. We lived for three months with Python 1.x in a septic >> tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, write our 1.x code >> using ed, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down in machine language, >>

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Nick
Emmy Noether writes: > On Jul 18, 1:09 am, Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >> Emmy Noether writes: >> > On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, bolega wrote: >> >> "Democracy is sick in the US, government monitors your >> >> Internet"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfCJq_zIdk&feature=fvsr >> >> >>

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2010-07-18, Emmy Noether wrote: > DEFUN ("or", For, Sor, 0, UNEVALLED, 0, > "Eval args until one of them yields non-NIL, then return that value. > \n\ > The remaining args are not evalled at all.\n\ > If all args return NIL, return NIL.") > (args) > Lisp_Object args; > { > register L

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Emmy Noether
On Jul 18, 1:09 am, Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: > Emmy Noether writes: > > On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, bolega wrote: > >> "Democracy is sick in the US, government monitors your > >> Internet"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfCJq_zIdk&feature=fvsr > > >> Enjoy . > > > In this video

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Emmy Noether
On Jul 18, 12:27 am, David Kastrup wrote: > Emmy Noether writes: > >> Some entity, AKA David Kastrup , > >> wrote this mindboggling stuff: > >> (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > > Software is a puzzle and it must be explained to be able to do that, > its like a lock > > >>> There is no u

Re: Code generator and visitor pattern

2010-07-18 Thread Mick Krippendorf
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 17/07/2010 20:38, Mick Krippendorf wrote: >> >> If Java were *really* a multiple dispatch language, it wouldn't be >> necessary to repeat the accept-code for every subclass. Instead a single >> accept method in the base class would suffice. In fact, with true >> multiple d

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread Nick
Emmy Noether writes: > On Jul 7, 1:57 pm, bolega wrote: >> "Democracy is sick in the US, government monitors your >> Internet"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfCJq_zIdk&feature=fvsr >> >> Enjoy . > > In this video, Stall man makes 4 promises to public but stalls on 2nd > of them. I have no

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Johannes Kleese
On 18.07.2010 08:09, geremy condra wrote: > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet > wrote: >> in in a social group by sharing that group's behavior and values. This >> instinct is possibly stronger than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom >> fought over sex ("surrender, and

Re: Fascinating interview by Richard Stallman on Russia TV

2010-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Emmy Noether writes: >> Some entity, AKA David Kastrup , >> wrote this mindboggling stuff: >> (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > Software is a puzzle and it must be explained to be able to do that, its like a lock > >>> There is no unfreedom involved here.  Freedom does not hand you a fre