On 7/11/2010 3:26 AM, rantingrick wrote:
Another source of asininity seems to be the naming conventions of the
Python language proper! True/False start with an upper case and i
applaud this. However str, list, tuple, int, float --need i go
on...?-- start with lowercase.
This is an anomaly, kno
On 7/11/10 10:59 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> I just came across this, a python tutorial purportedly intended for
>> beginning programmers. I only read the first few pages and I'm not
>> crazy about the approach, but I haven't seen it mentioned
On 7/11/2010 1:48 PM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
2. How can I write a function, "def swap(x,y):..." so that "x = 3; y
= 7; swap(x,y);" given x=7,y=3??
(I want to use Perl's Ref "\" operator, or C's&).
(And if I cannot do this [other than creating an Int class], is this
behavior limited to string
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:52:17 -0700, sturlamolden wrote:
> On 11 Jul, 21:37, "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" +use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I wouldn't give that advice. It's meaningless mumbo-jumbo. Python
>> works like Java in this respect, that's all; neither Java nor Python
>> support 'swap'.
>
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> I just came across this, a python tutorial purportedly intended for
> beginning programmers. I only read the first few pages and I'm not
> crazy about the approach, but I haven't seen it mentioned here, and some
> folks might like it:
>
> htt
* sturlamolden, on 12.07.2010 06:52:
On 11 Jul, 21:37, "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" wrote:
Oh, I wouldn't give that advice. It's meaningless mumbo-jumbo. Python works like
Java in this respect, that's all; neither Java nor Python support 'swap'.
x,y = y,x
We're talking about defining a 'swa
On 7/11/10 7:25 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
> The alleged facts etc. you're referring are just that, alleged, by you.
Two people come together and have a debate. Both present arguments. Both
present cases. In the end, they are still in disagreement.
You declare us, "religious", and theref
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Nathan Rice
wrote:
> Yeah, I long ago filed the in place place in the same folder as
> all() returning True for an empty iterable
If you weren't taught about vacuous truth (or even identity elements)
in Discrete Mathematics, someone fscked up. Said behavior is t
On 7/11/10 10:03 PM, Nathan Rice wrote:
> Yeah, I long ago filed the in place place in the same folder as
> strings-as-sequences, all() returning True for an empty iterable and any
> returning True rather than the thing which triggered it.
You know, the latter two I can see an argument for, and co
I just came across this, a python tutorial purportedly intended for
beginning programmers. I only read the first few pages and I'm not
crazy about the approach, but I haven't seen it mentioned here, and some
folks might like it:
http://learnpythonthehardway.org/home
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Yeah, I long ago filed the in place place in the same folder as
strings-as-sequences, all() returning True for an empty iterable and any
returning True rather than the thing which triggered it. Almost always
annoying and worked around, but that's the price you pay for the other nice
stuff :) It j
On 11 Jul, 21:37, "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" wrote:
> Oh, I wouldn't give that advice. It's meaningless mumbo-jumbo. Python works
> like
> Java in this respect, that's all; neither Java nor Python support 'swap'.
x,y = y,x
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> On Jul 12, 2:14 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:13 PM, The Danny Bos wrote:
>> > Thanks gang,
>> > I'm gonna paste what I've put together, doesn't seem right. Am I way
>> > off?
>>
>> > Here's my code.
>> > - It goes through a table Item
>> > - Matches that Item ID to an
Thanks Chris,
Agreed some of the code is a lot useless, I need to go through that
stuff.
So something like this (apologies for asking for some details, I'm not
good at catching):
items = Item.objects.all().filter(cover='').order_by('-reference_id')
for item in items:
url = "http://someaddre
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Carl M. Johnson
wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>
>> The availability of "nonlocal" binding semantics also makes the
>> semantics much easier to define than they were in those previous
>> discussions (the lack of clear semantics for
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:13 PM, The Danny Bos wrote:
> Thanks gang,
> I'm gonna paste what I've put together, doesn't seem right. Am I way
> off?
>
> Here's my code.
> - It goes through a table Item
> - Matches that Item ID to an API call
> - Grabs the data, saves it and creates the thumbnail
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:12:10 +0200, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
>
>> * MRAB, on 12.07.2010 00:37:
> [...]
>>> In Java a variable is declared and exists even before the first
>>> assignment to it. In Python a 'variable' isn't declared a
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:18 PM, dk wrote:
> I have been going round and round trying to configure python 2.6
> running on osx 10.6.x to work with mySQL 5.1.44.
> Python seems to work ... i have an installation of mysql 5.1.44
> running and have used it in conjunction for other php/apache projects
Thanks gang,
I'm gonna paste what I've put together, doesn't seem right. Am I way
off?
Here's my code.
- It goes through a table Item
- Matches that Item ID to an API call
- Grabs the data, saves it and creates the thumbnail
- It dies due to Timeouts and Other baloney, all silly, nothing code
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:48:40 -0700, joblack wrote:
> I get sometimes a
>
> Errno 9 Bad file descriptor
>
> the code is too long to show it here
You can at least show the actual line that fails. Are you trying to open
a file, a named socket, a pipe or a device?
> but what are the circumstanc
* MRAB, on 12.07.2010 04:09:
Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* MRAB, on 12.07.2010 00:37:
Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* Stephen Hansen, on 11.07.2010 21:00:
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have
the
by
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:40:07 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:31:14 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Well said Steven, or is it Stephen, or Stephan, or Stefen, or what?
>
> For some reason, when I answer the phone and say "Hello, Steven
> speaking?" I often get called Peter
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:31:14 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Well said Steven, or is it Stephen, or Stephan, or Stefen, or what?
For some reason, when I answer the phone and say "Hello, Steven
speaking?" I often get called Peter.
--
Steven
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:12:10 +0200, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
> * MRAB, on 12.07.2010 00:37:
[...]
>> In Java a variable is declared and exists even before the first
>> assignment to it. In Python a 'variable' isn't declared and won't exist
>> until the first 'assignment' to it.
>
> That is
It seems like seeing the code, or at least the bit in question, would
be easier, but what about:
for img in range(0, len(imagesToUpload:))
try:
#do the thumbnail / upload thing on images[i]
exceptIOError:
i=0
This will duplicate a lot of the images already processed, but you
said you are ju
The Danny Bos wrote:
Heya,
I'm running a py script that simply grabs an image, creates a
thumbnail and uploads it to s3. I'm simply logging into ssh and
running the script through Terminal. It works fine, but gives me an
IOError every now and then.
I was wondering if I can catch this error and
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, The Danny Bos wrote:
> Heya,
>
> I'm running a py script that simply grabs an image, creates a
> thumbnail and uploads it to s3. I'm simply logging into ssh and
> running the script through Terminal. It works fine, but gives me an
> IOError every now and then.
>
>
* Stephen Hansen, on 12.07.2010 04:02:
On 7/11/10 6:12 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
However, as stated up-thread, I do not expect facts, logic or general
reasoning to have any effect whatsoever on such hard-core religious
beliefs.
Grow up, and/or get a grip, and/or get over yourself.
E
Heya,
I'm running a py script that simply grabs an image, creates a
thumbnail and uploads it to s3. I'm simply logging into ssh and
running the script through Terminal. It works fine, but gives me an
IOError every now and then.
I was wondering if I can catch this error and just get the script to
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:35:18 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Come back when you have profiled your code and can prove that the cost
>> of building empty tuples is an actual bottleneck.
>
> Did you even read this thread, i mean from
Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* MRAB, on 12.07.2010 00:37:
Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* Stephen Hansen, on 11.07.2010 21:00:
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have the
bytecode compiler optimize away
On 7/11/10 6:12 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
> However, as stated up-thread, I do not expect facts, logic or general
> reasoning to have any effect whatsoever on such hard-core religious
> beliefs.
Grow up, and/or get a grip, and/or get over yourself.
Everyone who disagreed with you, disa
On 7/11/10 6:10 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:31 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>
> You said about macs...
>> Copying a file without the resource fork on a mac, *can* result in
>> essential data being lost (This is less common then it used to be). As
>> simple a task as chown/chmod for posix s
"i had once considered you one of the foremost intelligent minds
within this group. However, after your display within this thread i am
beginning to doubt my original beliefs of you."
"Oh ... grow a spine already, really. I can't help but thinking of the
spineless Robert Ford every time you open y
On 7/11/10 5:51 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:22:41 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 1:19 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>>
Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
"0 ==
* MRAB, on 12.07.2010 00:37:
Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* Stephen Hansen, on 11.07.2010 21:00:
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have the
bytecode compiler optimize away expressions like:
if is_my_extra
On Jul 11, 7:31 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
You said about macs...
> Copying a file without the resource fork on a mac, *can* result in
> essential data being lost (This is less common then it used to be). As
> simple a task as chown/chmod for posix systems to take ownership of a
> file and make it
On Jul 11, 8:59 am, dhruvbird wrote:
> Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
> that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
Because Guido thinks that having those methods return None is the best
way to communicate that the underlying object has been mutated
Hello,
After reading 'Practical Django Projects' I decided that I want to
implement the VirtualEnv tip suggested in order to properly segregate
code/modules in different projects. I am however having problems with
my django installations not using site-packages within the virtualenv
but rather att
On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:22:41 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 1:19 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>
> >> Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
> >> "0 == False"?
>
> > No because all integers should bool True. An inte
I get sometimes a
Errno 9 Bad file descriptor
the code is too long to show it here but what are the circumstances
this could happen? A web search showed nothing.
I have especially the feeling Python 2.6 has some problems with
Unicode ... and might not find the file. Is that possible?
--
http://
On Jul 11, 7:18 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> +1
Oh mark grow a spine already, really. I can't help but thinking of the
spineless Robert Ford every time you open your mouth.
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On Jul 11, 7:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Come back when you have profiled your code and
> can prove that the cost of building empty tuples is an actual bottleneck.
Did you even read this thread, i mean from head to tail. I NEVER said
building EMPTY tuples was the cause of my rant. My complai
dhruvbird wrote:
>
> On a side note, is there any other way to append to a list using
> slices (apart from the one below):
> x[len(x):len(x)] = [item to append]
dy you mean
x.extend([1,2,3])
?
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On 12/07/2010 01:06, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:26:36 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
Another source of asininity seems to be the naming conventions of the
Python language proper! True/False start with an upper case and i
applaud this. However str, list, tuple, int, float --need i
On 7/11/10 5:01 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 11:57 am, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>> On 7/11/10 9:31 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>>> trying to
>>> support both UNIX and Windows is NOT a good idea.
>>
>> And you can't lump the Mac in with "UNIX" here, even though it really is
>> UNIX at the foundat
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:59:06 -0700, dhruvbird wrote:
> Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
> that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods? I found this link
> (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python- class/lists.html)
> which suggests that this i
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:22:41 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:19 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>
>> Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
>> "0 == False"?
>
> No because all integers should bool True. An integer is a value that IS
> NOT empty
Integers aren'
On Jul 11, 5:28 pm, Fuzzyman wrote:
> But why hijack someone else's announcement to do that? Congratulations
> alone would have been great. However good your intentions your message
> came across as "but it would really have been better if you had been
> doing something else instead...".
Micheal
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:31:39 +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> Cross platform file manager. Hmm. Does "cross platform" involve UNIX and
> something that isn't UNIX, say, Windows? Erm, no. No, no, no. It won't
> work. Well, it would work, but it wouldn't be any good. The UNIX and
> Windows concepts of
On 12/07/2010 01:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:50:05 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
You do realize that
Python must build a tuple for ever conditional that uses this semantic?
This is more bad, bad, bad than integer bool-ing! My bin packer could
potentially compute millions of pa
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:26:36 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> Another source of asininity seems to be the naming conventions of the
> Python language proper! True/False start with an upper case and i
> applaud this. However str, list, tuple, int, float --need i go on...?--
> start with lowercase.
>
>
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:30:36 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 3:03 am, "Günther Dietrich" wrote:
>
>> So, it is not a disadvantage that the functions you listed above are
>> named in this way. In the contrary, it is an advantage, as it keeps
>> newcomers from using stupid variable names.
>
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:50:05 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> You do realize that
> Python must build a tuple for ever conditional that uses this semantic?
> This is more bad, bad, bad than integer bool-ing! My bin packer could
> potentially compute millions of parts. I do not want to waste valuable
>
On Jul 11, 11:57 am, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> On 7/11/10 9:31 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> > trying to
> > support both UNIX and Windows is NOT a good idea.
>
> And you can't lump the Mac in with "UNIX" here, even though it really is
> UNIX at the foundation, because there's some very fundamental
>
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:22 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:19 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>
>> Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
>> "0 == False"?
>
> No because all integers should bool True. An integer is a value that
> IS NOT empty and IS NOT None. Ther
On Jul 11, 11:31 am, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/11/2010 07:44 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> > Congratulations on this effort Luke. However you know what project i
> > would really like to see the community get around? ...dramatic pause
> > here... a cross platform Python file browser!
>
> Cross pla
On Jul 11, 1:19 pm, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
> "0 == False"?
No because all integers should bool True. An integer is a value that
IS NOT empty and IS NOT None. Therefore the only logical way to handle
integer bool-ing is to say
John Bokma wrote:
Thomas Jollans writes:
On 07/11/2010 07:44 AM, rantingrick wrote:
On Jul 10, 10:59 pm, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
source at:http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser
$ python grail.py (note the lack of "python1.5" or "python2.4")
conversion of the 80 or so regex's to
On 07/11/10 04:59, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
source at:
http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser
$ python grail.py (note the lack of "python1.5" or "python2.4")
conversion of the 80 or so regex's to re has been carried out.
entirely successfully or not is a matter yet to be determined. al
On Jul 11, 12:23 pm, MRAB wrote:
> If you're so unhappy with Python, why don't you create your own
> language. I suggest the name "Rantthon".
Ah yes, then i can finally assume my worthy title of the "Ranting
Dictator For Life"! ;-)
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Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
* Stephen Hansen, on 11.07.2010 21:00:
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have the
bytecode compiler optimize away expressions like:
if is_my_extra_debugging_on: print ...
when
On Jul 11, 5:16 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 11, 9:01 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
>
> > As usual, you would rather tell other people what to do instead of doing
> > any work yourself.
>
> Dear God! My statement was intended to fetch responses like...
>
> "Hey, that sounds like a gr
You could probably:
cd to dir1
getcwd
cd to dir2
getcwd
repeat
cd ..
getcwd
if getcwd == dir1's cwd, then under
until at /
cd to dir1
repeat
cd ..
getcwd
if getcwd == dir2's cwd, then under
until at /
This should deal with symlinks and junctions, as long as you aren't worried
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM, wrote:
> I have a complex object with attributes that contain lists, sets,
> dictionaries, and other objects. The lists and dictionaries may themselves
> contain complex objects.
>
> I would like to provide a read-only version of this type of object for other
> de
Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, News123 wrote:
>> Carl Banks wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 10:48 am, wheres pythonmonks
>>> wrote:
I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python.
>>> Welcome to the light.
>>>
>>>
I have some
easy issues (Python 2.6)
wh
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, News123 wrote:
> Carl Banks wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 10:48 am, wheres pythonmonks
>> wrote:
>>> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python.
>>
>> Welcome to the light.
>>
>>
>>> I have some
>>> easy issues (Python 2.6)
>>> which probably can be answered
Carl Banks wrote:
> On Jul 11, 10:48 am, wheres pythonmonks
> wrote:
>> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python.
>
> Welcome to the light.
>
>
>> I have some
>> easy issues (Python 2.6)
>> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>>
>> 1. Why is it that I cannot use prin
On Jul 11, 11:45 am, wheres pythonmonks
wrote:
> On #4: So there are some hacks, but not something as easy as "import
> unimportable" or an @noexport decorator. The underscore works, so
> does "del".
Careful. If you have a module that looks like this:
def foo():
bar()
def bar():
pri
On Jul 11, 10:48 am, wheres pythonmonks
wrote:
> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python.
Welcome to the light.
> I have some
> easy issues (Python 2.6)
> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>
> 1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
>
> >>> True a
Thomas Jollans writes:
> On 07/11/2010 07:44 AM, rantingrick wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 10:59 pm, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>> wrote:
>>> source at:http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser
>>>
>>> $ python grail.py (note the lack of "python1.5" or "python2.4")
>>>
>>> conversion of the 80 or so regex's
I have been going round and round trying to configure python 2.6
running on osx 10.6.x to work with mySQL 5.1.44.
Python seems to work ... i have an installation of mysql 5.1.44
running and have used it in conjunction for other php/apache projects.
I want to learn python and think i need a better
* Stephen Hansen, on 11.07.2010 21:00:
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have the
bytecode compiler optimize away expressions like:
if is_my_extra_debugging_on: print ...
when "is_my_extra_debugging" is set t
On 07/11/2010 08:45 PM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> Thanks for your answers -- it is much appreciated.
>
> On #1: I had very often used chained logic with both logging and
> functional purposes in Perl, and wanted to duplicate this in Python.
> "It reads like english" Using the print_ print wrap
On 7/11/10 11:45 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> Follow-up:
> Is there a way to define compile-time constants in python and have the
> bytecode compiler optimize away expressions like:
>
> if is_my_extra_debugging_on: print ...
>
> when "is_my_extra_debugging" is set to false? I'd like to pay no
Thanks for your answers -- it is much appreciated.
On #1: I had very often used chained logic with both logging and
functional purposes in Perl, and wanted to duplicate this in Python.
"It reads like english" Using the print_ print wrapper works for me.
Follow-up:
Is there a way to define compi
On 7/11/10 10:48 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python. I have some
> easy issues (Python 2.6)
> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>
> 1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
True and print "It is true!"
Becau
On Jul 11, 6:38 am, rantingrick wrote:
> Seems kinda dumb to build a tuple just so a conditional wont blow
> chunks! This integer bool-ing need to be fixed right away!
Okay. What fix do you propose? Would your fix maintain the identity
"0 == False"? For bonus points, explain how you'd deal with
wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python. I have some
> easy issues (Python 2.6)
> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>
> 1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
True and print "It is true!"
>
> I found a nice work-
On 07/11/2010 11:48 AM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python. I have some
> easy issues (Python 2.6)
> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>
> 1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
True and print "It is true!"
Th
On Jul 11, 9:19 pm, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/11/2010 05:59 PM, dhruvbird wrote:
>
> > Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
> > that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
> > I found this link (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-
> > cl
On 07/11/2010 07:48 PM, wheres pythonmonks wrote:
> I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python. I have some
> easy issues (Python 2.6)
> which probably can be answered in two seconds:
>
> 1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
True and print "It is true!"
pr
I'm an old Perl-hacker, and am trying to Dive in Python. I have some
easy issues (Python 2.6)
which probably can be answered in two seconds:
1. Why is it that I cannot use print in booleans?? e.g.:
>>> True and print "It is true!"
I found a nice work-around using eval(compile(.,"","exec"))
Thomas Jollans wrote:
On 07/11/2010 05:59 PM, dhruvbird wrote:
Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
I found this link (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-
class/lists.html) which suggests that th
rantingrick wrote:
Another source of asininity seems to be the naming conventions of the
Python language proper! True/False start with an upper case and i
applaud this. However str, list, tuple, int, float --need i go
on...?-- start with lowercase.
Q: Well what the hell is your problem Rick. Who
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
dhruvbird wrote:
> Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
> that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
> I found this link (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-
> class/lists.html) which suggests that t
On 7/11/10 9:31 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> Cross platform file manager. Hmm. Does "cross platform" involve UNIX and
> something that isn't UNIX, say, Windows?
> Erm, no. No, no, no. It won't work. Well, it would work, but it wouldn't
> be any good. The UNIX and Windows concepts of "file system" ar
I have a complex object with attributes that contain lists, sets,
dictionaries, and other objects. The lists and dictionaries may
themselves contain complex objects.
I would like to provide a read-only version of this type of
object for other developers to query for reporting.
Is there a way to p
On 07/11/2010 06:28 PM, Nathan Rice wrote:
> Do list(reversed(list(reversed([1, 2, 3, 4])) + [[]]))
>
> Though TBH sometimes get annoyed at this behavior myself. There are a
> lot of people who are very vocal in support of returning none, and it
> makes sense in some ways. Since reversed returns
On 11 jul, 13:28, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
> 2010-07-11 02:12, Ritchy lelis skrev:
>
> > On 7 jul, 08:38, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
>
> > About the plot draw it's a curve that it's a set of points wich it's
> > the result of the comput of the Vref and Vi together. I don't know if
> > i had to make a b
On 07/11/2010 07:44 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jul 10, 10:59 pm, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
>> source at:http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser
>>
>> $ python grail.py (note the lack of "python1.5" or "python2.4")
>>
>> conversion of the 80 or so regex's to re has been carried out.
>> ent
Do list(reversed(list(reversed([1, 2, 3, 4])) + [[]]))
Though TBH sometimes get annoyed at this behavior myself. There are a lot
of people who are very vocal in support of returning none, and it makes
sense in some ways. Since reversed returns an iterator though, it makes
this code horrible and
On 07/11/2010 05:59 PM, dhruvbird wrote:
> Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
> that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
> I found this link (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-
> class/lists.html) which suggests that this is done to mak
On Jul 11, 9:01 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
> As usual, you would rather tell other people what to do instead of doing
> any work yourself.
Dear God! My statement was intended to fetch responses like...
"Hey, that sounds like a great idea" or \
"Hey, lets get hacking on this".
I
On 07/11/2010 12:50 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> Ah yes, when nothing else seems to work fall back to you default
> programming... FUD and ad hominem attacks
Please stop calling things what they are not. Stephen's post was not an
ad hominem attack, nor was it FUD. Someone who is countering your
pre
Why doesn't python's list append() method return the list itself? For
that matter, even the reverse() and sort() methods?
I found this link (http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-
class/lists.html) which suggests that this is done to make sure that
the programmer understands that the l
Folks:
I have been (I admit it) a Python 3 skeptic. I even speculated that
the Python 3 backward-incompatibility would lead to the obsolescence
of Python:
http://pubgrid.tahoe-lafs.org/uri/URI:DIR2-RO:ixqhc4kdbjxc7o65xjnveoewym:5x6lwoxghrd5rxhwunzavft2qygfkt27oj3fbxlq4c6p45z5uneq/blog.html
Howev
Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
>
> Having capitalized boolean values ... that is a bit odd, but as long as
> children are starving in Africa, this isn't very high on my gripe-list.
>
+1
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Hi Thomas,
Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/11/2010 03:37 PM, Gelonida wrote:
>> #
>> import os
>> def is_below_dir(fname,topdir):
>> relpath = os.path.relpath(fname,topdir)
>> return not relpath.startswith('..'+os.sep)
>>
>> print is_below_dir(
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:46:40 +0200 News123 wrote:
> Andre Alexander Bell wrote:
> > On 07/11/2010 10:30 AM, rantingrick wrote:
>
> >>> So, it is not a disadvantage that the functions you listed above
> >>> are named in this way. In the contrary, it is an advantage, as it
> >>> keeps newcomers fr
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