On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:13:48 -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2009-01-05, Derek Martin wrote:
>
>>> I'm sorry, but I really don't see how Python's assignment model could
>>> be considered bizarre by anybody who's familiar with more than one or
>>> two languages.
>>
>> And... what if one wasn't?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Gilles Ganault wrote:
> Hello
>
>I successfully use the email package to send e-mail from Python
> scripts, but this script fails when I fetch addresses from an SQLite
> database where data is Unicode-encoded:
>
> ==
> from email.MIMEText import MIMETex
I've found a great example on how to do threads. It compares a ping program
in regular for loop and with threaded for loop. The link is below if anyone
is interested.
http://www.wellho.net/solutions/python-python-threads-a-first-example.html
I hope my eagerness to post doesn't annoy anyone. I lik
Hello
I successfully use the email package to send e-mail from Python
scripts, but this script fails when I fetch addresses from an SQLite
database where data is Unicode-encoded:
==
from email.MIMEText import MIMEText
import smtplib,sys
import apsw
connection=apsw.Connection("test.
On 2009-01-05, Derek Martin wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but I really don't see how Python's assignment
>> model could be considered bizarre by anybody who's familiar
>> with more than one or two languages.
>
> And... what if one wasn't? The OP of this thread clearly
> didn't understand... Whereas if
Hello All,
I have a question. I'm not sure exactly as how to explain it in any other
way then the way I will explain it. So I'm sorry if it's hard to understand
exactly what it is I'm trying to do. Maybe not. Anyway. Here goes.
Lets say I have a file that looks like this.
id,name,desc,test
123,a
Forgive my indulgence, I find this rather academic discussion kind of
interesting, as it turns out.
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 10:55:09PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > You can't argue that one semantic or another is more intuitive
> > without offering evidence.
>
> I think I have though, not that i
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:56:33PM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2009-01-05, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:46AM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> One presumes that Mr. Martin finds anything different from his
> >> first computer language to be BIZARRE. He should try out
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:30:20PM -0500, Steve Holden wrote:
> > I'm going to go out on a limb and assert that there's NO POSSIBLE WAY
> > a student could intuit Python's variable assignment behavior, having
> > never been exposed to that same behavior prior. It needs to be
> > taught.
> >
> As
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:47 PM, sprad wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:41 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> The OP comes from a Perl background, which AFAIK allows you to concat
>> numbers to strings and add strings to numbers. That's probably the (mis)
>> feature he was hoping Python had.
I
In article
,
sprad wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:41 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> > The OP comes from a Perl background, which AFAIK allows you to concat
> > numbers to strings and add strings to numbers. That's probably the (mis)
> > feature he was hoping Python had.
>
> That's cor
On 2009-01-05, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:46AM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> > Or are they also "BIZARRE"!?
>>
>> One presumes that Mr. Martin finds anything different from his
>> first computer language to be BIZARRE. He should try out
>> Prolog or something genuinely
On Jan 3, 6:41 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The OP comes from a Perl background, which AFAIK allows you to concat
> numbers to strings and add strings to numbers. That's probably the (mis)
> feature he was hoping Python had.
That's correct -- and that's been one of the more difficult parts of
my
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Hussein B wrote:
> What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
I like ot use nose with it's coverage plugin.
easy_install nose
easy_install co
And I use the following in my top-level Makefile
tests:
@nosetests \
--with-coverage \
--c
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Robert Kern wrote:
>
>> Hussein B wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> > What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
>>
>> I like Titus Brown's figleaf.
>>
>> http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/figleaf/doc/
>
> I was playing with Ned
Derek Martin wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 10:15:51AM +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:39:15 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:21:29PM +, John O'Hagan wrote:
>>> What the Python community often overlooks, when this discussion again
>
In article ,
Robert Kern wrote:
> Hussein B wrote:
> > Hey,
> > What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
>
> I like Titus Brown's figleaf.
>
> http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/figleaf/doc/
I was playing with Ned Batchelder's coverage.py module today. Once I
stopped screwi
OK -- this might be a strange question.
If I do a 'full' install of Python on Windows XP, the result is a
directory 'C:\Python25'. Depending on whether I install for all users
or just me, the 'python25.dll' might end up in 'C:\Python25', or in
the Windows system directory. If I copy python25.dll t
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:46AM -0600, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > Or are they also "BIZARRE"!?
>
> One presumes that Mr. Martin finds anything different from his
> first computer language to be BIZARRE. He should try out
> Prolog or something genuinely different.
One's presumption would be mist
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 10:15:51AM +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:39:15 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:21:29PM +, John O'Hagan wrote:
> > What the Python community often overlooks, when this discussion again
> > rears its ugly head
On Jan 4, 1:47 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
> Or, I could draw a line in the sand and say, "If it's a protocol
> primitive, it stays as written. Otherwise, it's pep-8". That's a
> little uglier because it's not always obvious to the user exactly
> which names are protocol primitives and which are higher
imageguy wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:33 pm, John Machin wrote:
For some very strange definition of "works"
Well that's embarrassing ... you are correct. I need to convert from
'bgr' to 'rgb'
If that is the only issue:
>>> import Image
>>> p = Image.open('~/VPython.png')
>>> r, g, b
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Torsten Mohr wrote:
> It looks natural to me to write in a code that uses the package:
>
> import graphic
> import graphic.square
> import graphic.circle
>
> That way i'd have to structure the code like this:
>
> graphic/
> __init__,py (GraphicObject)
> square.p
Hi,
i have a question on how to structure a package best, would be great if
anybody could give me some hint on this:
Assuming i have a base class GraphicObject and derived from that some
classes like Square, Circle, ...
It looks natural to me to write in a code that uses the package:
import gra
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Here's a less verbose version which passes your test cases:
def inslice(index, slc, len):
"""Return True if index would be part of slice slc of a
sequence of length len, otherwise return False.
"""
start, stop, stride = slc.indices(len)
if stride < 0:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:05:14 +0100
Christian Heimes wrote:
> Philip Semanchuk schrieb:
> > This works for me:
> >PyModule_AddIntConstant(module, "O_CREAT", O_CREAT);
> >
> > I've had to learn a lot about writing extensions from looking at the
> > Python source code. Lots of valuable tricks t
TZMud is a Python MUD server.
http://tzmud.googlecode.com/
A MUD is a text-based virtual environment
accessed via telnet, or with a specialised
MUD client.
TZMud development is still in early stages,
focusing on API and server stability.
TZMud uses several high-quality Python
libraries to facil
> This works, but I'm not sure if PyString...() really makes a new copy of
> the data (ellowing me to use free())
See the documentation:
http://docs.python.org/c-api/string.html#PyString_FromString
# Return a new string object with a *copy* of the string v as value
> Another example (all on the
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote:
> Back when I was still using Perl, there was - and still is, I guess - a
> really nice framework called POE, that allowed you to write event-driven
> state machines in a really easy and pleasant way. Under POE, EVERYTHING was
> an eve
Hussein B wrote:
Hey,
What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
I like Titus Brown's figleaf.
http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/figleaf/doc/
--
Robert Kern
"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad atte
On Jan 4, 4:46 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
> alexus> enviroment: FreeBSD j.jothost.com 7.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD
> 7.0-RELEASE-
> alexus> p7 #6: Wed Dec 24 15:58:06 EST 2008
> ale...@j.jothost.com:/usr/obj/
> alexus> usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
>
> alexus> I installed both of Python
You might try this in qwe.py
import os,sys
sys.path.append(os.getcwd()+"../")
This will allow you to then import modules from module(dir).
Hope this helps. OTOH, there maybe a better solution.
-Alex Goretoy
http://www.alexgoretoy.com
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Torsten Mohr wrote:
> Hi,
alexus> enviroment: FreeBSD j.jothost.com 7.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD
7.0-RELEASE-
alexus> p7 #6: Wed Dec 24 15:58:06 EST 2008
ale...@j.jothost.com:/usr/obj/
alexus> usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
alexus> I installed both of Python 2 and Python 3 via source code
alexus> (compile t
On Jan 4, 4:23 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
> alexus> I wanted to try out new Python 3 on my system, so I did "make
> alexus> fullinstall" and now as promised it broke every single program
> alexus> there is that runs on my system that depends on Python.
>
> alexus> is there a way to u
Hello, list!
I use pyopenssl [0] for checking SSL certificates.
And one of such checks is if given certificate is self-signed.
I can do it using values of X509v3 extensions: the subject key identifier and
the authority key id:
X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
0E:D4:AA:B1:09:91:7C:36:60:EA:56:4E:9C:5
alexus> I wanted to try out new Python 3 on my system, so I did "make
alexus> fullinstall" and now as promised it broke every single program
alexus> there is that runs on my system that depends on Python.
alexus> is there a way to undo that? I've tried re-installing Python 2,
Hi,
in a package i use these files:
module (dir)
__init__.py
submodule
__init__.py
qwe.py
qwe.py defines a class that derives from a class defined in submodule (and by
that in submodule/__init__.py.
Is it possible somehow to write in qwe.py to import submodule (though
__init__.py
I wanted to try out new Python 3 on my system, so I did "make
fullinstall" and now as promised it broke every single program there
is that runs on my system that depends on Python.
is there a way to undo that? I've tried re-installing Python 2, yet
that didn't help me at all.
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Hello,
extending Python in C ist just the coolest thing since sliced bread (and
I'm particularly happy because I really had started to miss C when I did
more and more things in Python).
I've got one question though. Tha C/API documentation is not quite clear
(to me, anyway) on what happens exactl
I'd be interested in attending if you make it to Tulsa,OK. Are your courses
only in Colorado?
-Alex Goretoy
http://www.alexgoretoy.com
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mark Lutz wrote:
> Python author and trainer Mark Lutz will be teaching a 4-day
> Python class on January 27-30, in Longmont, C
Philip Semanchuk schrieb:
> This works for me:
>PyModule_AddIntConstant(module, "O_CREAT", O_CREAT);
>
> I've had to learn a lot about writing extensions from looking at the
> Python source code. Lots of valuable tricks to be learned there.
This trick makes it even easier:
#ifndef PyModule_A
I'm building a Python language wrapper to an network protocol which
traditionally uses camelCase function names. I'm trying to make the
new code pep-8 compliant, which means function names should be written
this_way() instead of thisWay(). I've got a couple of choices open to
me.
I could convert
Python author and trainer Mark Lutz will be teaching a 4-day
Python class on January 27-30, in Longmont, Colorado.
This is a public training session open to individual enrollments,
and covers the same topics and hands-on lab work as the onsite
sessions that Mark teaches. The class provides an in-
On Jan 4, 2009, at 7:14 PM, kleefaj wrote:
Greetings.
I want to run IDLE on my iBook running Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther).
Per the instructions on "Python on the Macintosh" [1], I downloaded
and installed TclTkAqua [2], then downloaded and installed Universal-
MacPython-2.4.3 [3].
Python launch
Ken Seehart a écrit :
Michael Yang wrote:
Hi,guys
i am a new guy for python world,i have some question want to ask
1.should i learn about python2.6 or python3k?i heard of it has some
difference from them
.
I think you should go directly to 3K to save your self the extra work of
learning the
On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Tony Houghton wrote:
I want to write python wrappers for the Linux DVB API. The underlying
structures and constants may change from time to time, and some of the
constants are generated from macros, so I think it would be better to
write the module in C rather than j
Tony Houghton wrote:
I want to write python wrappers for the Linux DVB API. The underlying
structures and constants may change from time to time, and some of the
constants are generated from macros, so I think it would be better to
write the module in C rather than just copying the constants into
I want to write python wrappers for the Linux DVB API. The underlying
structures and constants may change from time to time, and some of the
constants are generated from macros, so I think it would be better to
write the module in C rather than just copying the constants into pure
python code and u
Greetings.
I want to run IDLE on my iBook running Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther).
Per the instructions on "Python on the Macintosh" [1], I downloaded
and installed TclTkAqua [2], then downloaded and installed Universal-
MacPython-2.4.3 [3].
Python launches in Terminal. The version shown is 2.4.3.
Wh
Michael Yang wrote:
Hi,guys
i am a new guy for python world,i have some question want to ask
1.should i learn about python2.6 or python3k?i heard of it has some
difference from them
.
I think you should go directly to 3K to save your self the extra work of
learning the differences.
The mai
mario wrote:
On Jan 3, 7:16 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I was about to make a comment about this being a security hole,
Strange that you say this, as you are also implying that *all* the
widely-used templating systems for python are security holes... Well,
you would be right to say that of co
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Michael Yang wrote:
> Hi,guys
>
> i am a new guy for python world,i have some question want to ask
>
> 1.should i learn about python2.6 or python3k?i heard of it has some
> difference from them
>
If you don't have to worry about external libraries, you should prob
I'm using the multiprocessing module in Python 2.6 to run a pygame
application. When errors occur, I create a new Process with the
multiprocessing module and have it display a TKinter dialog. The
pygame application can carry on happily without waiting for the
dialog. This works fine on Windows. How
Hi,guys
i am a new guy for python world,i have some question want to ask
1.should i learn about python2.6 or python3k?i heard of it has some
difference from them
2.Do python3k has some good web framework(like web.py)?
Thanks !
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Ralf Schoenian a écrit :
> Roy Smith wrote:
>> I'm starting to play with SOAP. The zeroth question that needs
>> answering is, "Which SOAP module should I use?" There seem to be a
>> number of different ones to pick from. Any suggestions?
>>
>>
> It depends on whether you want to write a client
Ralf Schoenian wrote:
> Roy Smith wrote:
>> I'm starting to play with SOAP. The zeroth question that needs
>> answering is, "Which SOAP module should I use?" There seem to be a
>> number of different ones to pick from. Any suggestions?
>
> for the server I think you
> have to rely on the ZSI (ht
On Jan 4, 10:41 am, Ralf Schoenian wrote:
> It depends on whether you want to write a client or a server
> application.
At least for now, I'm only interesting in clients.
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Roy Smith wrote:
I'm starting to play with SOAP. The zeroth question that needs
answering is, "Which SOAP module should I use?" There seem to be a
number of different ones to pick from. Any suggestions?
It depends on whether you want to write a client or a server
application. If you only wa
I'm starting to play with SOAP. The zeroth question that needs
answering is, "Which SOAP module should I use?" There seem to be a
number of different ones to pick from. Any suggestions?
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:10:05 +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:55:17 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> I thought there was an iterator in itertools for taking the first n
>> items of an iterator, then halting, but I can't find it. Did I imagine
>> such a tool, or am
Francesco Bochicchio wrote:
[...]
> AFAIK, PYTHONPATH only works for the imported modules. For the main
> module, you have to do give the full path.
> OR you could try out the new flag -m, which allows to run directly a
> module from the standard library and - I guess - also user modules if
> PYTHO
Morgul Banner Bearer wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I was using the O'Reilly book from 1999 to look into Python and ran
> into a problem with
> the use of Pythonpath.
>
> I have Python installed under c:\python26.
> I have the module "Brian.py" that i want to run installed under c
> \python26\work
>
Manish Sinha wrote:
> Filip Gruszczyński wrote:
>> I am trying to delete a method from a class. It's easy to delete other
>> attributes, but when I try:
>>
>>
> class A:
>
>> ... def foo():
>> ... pass
>> ...
>>
> a = A()
> del a.foo
>
>>
> In Windows Vista, I have set an environment variable "Pythonpath"
> equal to c:\python26\work
> (by using the "My computer", "Properties", "Advanced", "Environment
> Variables".
I always thought pythonpath was only for imports, try adding the
location to the regular path variable.
Andrew
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:56:51 -0800, Morgul Banner Bearer wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
...
>
>
> The behaviour of the program is as follows :
> In a Dos Box, the program executes nicely when i type :
> "c\python26>python c:\python26\work\brian.py".
>
> Now i understand that- because I set the Pytho
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
> Derek Martin :
>
>> It took me about a half a second to grasp the "named bins" concept --
>> i.e. as soon as I was finished reading the words that explained it I
>> understood it, so I'd say that based on your half-hour number,
>> Python's model is substantially more compl
Hi Everybody,
I was using the O'Reilly book from 1999 to look into Python and ran
into a problem with
the use of Pythonpath.
I have Python installed under c:\python26.
I have the module "Brian.py" that i want to run installed under c
\python26\work
In Windows Vista, I have set an environment var
My gmail did that. FYI, it wasn't intentional.
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HAHAHAHA, I like your sig Ben. So much that I blogged about it.
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Oh yeah, and the info on this thread was helpful.
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On Sun, Ja
"Aaron Brady" wrote:
>No; tuples are composite. If I flip one bit in a byte somewhere, is
>it the same byte?
Yes and No and No and Others:
Yes it is the byte at the same somewhere in memory.
No it is not the same as it was a moment ago,
because the bit has flipped.
No it is one of the bytes r
Hussein> What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
Probably Ned Batchelders coverage.py. There is a trace.py module which
comes with Python as well.
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On Jan 4, 5:55 am, Paul McGuire wrote:
> Just wanted to share some experience I had in doing some memory and
> performance tuning of a graphics script. I've been running some long-
> running scripts on high-resolution images, and added memoizing to
> optimize/minimize object creation (my objects
Hey,
What is the best code coverage tool available for Python?
Thanks.
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for the solution (and effort), and for teaching me some interesting new
tricks.
Happy 2009!
Ron.
-Original Message-
From: Tim Chase [mailto:python.l...@tim.thechases.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 20:04
To: Sebastian Bassi
Cc: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Ho
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:55:17 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I thought there was an iterator in itertools for taking the first n
> items of an iterator, then halting, but I can't find it. Did I imagine
> such a tool, or am I missing something?
`itertools.islice()`
Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack'
On Jan 4, 10:38 am, "alex goretoy"
wrote:
> haha python-svn # python Lib/decimal.py
> File "Lib/decimal.py", line 683
> sign = 0 if _math.copysign(1.0, f) == 1.0 else 1
> ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> Although, It may be only because I ran it through python 2.4.3
Ah yes,
No, I know there's a typo because python told me there is. If you have svn
repo locally. then cd into Lib/ and run python decimal.py
It will tell you line 683 has syntax error, please see below.
haha python-svn # python Lib/decimal.py
File "Lib/decimal.py", line 683
sign = 0 if _math.copysi
On Jan 4, 9:52 am, "alex goretoy" wrote:
> Also, another reason why I'm posting to this thread. I noticed some
> error/typo in line 683 of decimal.py located on public svn repo. This is
> what is looks like.
>
> sign = 0 if _math.copysign(1.0, f) == 1.0 else 1
This line looks okay to me;
"Filip Gruszczyński" writes:
> Thanks, now I see, what happens, but don't exactly know why. Could
> you point me to some good explanation how object creation is
> performed in Python?
Rather than “how object creation is performed”, I would recommend
you get a better handle on how the object *mod
Filip Gruszczyński wrote:
I am trying to delete a method from a class. It's easy to delete other
attributes, but when I try:
class A:
... def foo():
... pass
...
a = A()
del a.foo
I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
Attrib
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:53:12 -0800, Bryan Olson wrote about testing
whether or not an index is in a slice:
> I'm leaning towards mmanns' idea that this should be built in.
What's the use-case for it?
> Handling
> all the cases is remarkably tricky. Here's a verbose version, with a
> little t
I've been watching this thread for couple days now. I followed the bug
report and all that stuff. It's very interesting to me how you guys talk
about this stuff. I like it alot. I a new guy to python, just fyi. I'm one
of my current projects I'm using Decimal as well and I think it be a huge
pain i
> To answer the second question: since 'foo' is an attribute of the
> class 'A', you can delete the attribute from the class.
>
>>>> class A(object):
>... def foo(self):
>... pass
>...
>>>> a = A()
>>>> 'foo' in dir(a)
>True
>>>> del A.foo
>>>> 'foo'
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