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2006-10-14 Thread Sir Psycho
Hi, With web hosting, does the ISP you chose have to support the framework you work with as well? Im looking at making a site in Python, however, Im lost as to what ISPs actually support. Some ISPs say they support Python so does that mean if I wanted to use TurboGears It would just work anyway?

Re: Insert characters into string based on re ?

2006-10-14 Thread Frederic Rentsch
Frederic Rentsch wrote: > Matt wrote: >> I am attempting to reformat a string, inserting newlines before certain >> phrases. For example, in formatting SQL, I want to start a new line at >> each JOIN condition. Noting that strings are immutable, I thought it >> best to spllit the string at the key

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Gary Herron
Ben Finney wrote: > "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Oh, ok that explains it. Is that why my 16-bit calculator gives me >> 0? >> > > Your calculator is probably doing rounding without you asking for it. > Yes. Almost all calculators have 1 or 2 guard digits. These are extra dig

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Ben Finney
"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, ok that explains it. Is that why my 16-bit calculator gives me > 0? Your calculator is probably doing rounding without you asking for it. Python refuses to guess what you want, and gives you the information available. -- \ "Earth gets its pr

Re: Starting out.

2006-10-14 Thread Bill Pursell
Grant Edwards wrote: > > Perl has syntax? ROTFLMAO. In fact, that even motivated: Psychotically Engineered Random Language. -- Bill Pursell -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: .doc to html and pdf conversion with python

2006-10-14 Thread Alexander Klingenstein
> Is there some reason you really want to convert to PDF first? You can > get much better HTML right from the Word doc. You'll lose a lot of info > going from PDF to HTML. Right now, two reasons: Printing to PDF allows me to create the PDF "for the web" which means it has a much smaller filesize n

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread David Lees
Chris wrote: > sin(pi*0.5) is what I expected, but I expected to get 0 for sin(pi). > http://docs.python.org/tut/node16.html david -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Chris
Oh, ok that explains it. Is that why my 16-bit calculator gives me 0? Carsten Haese wrote: > On 14 Oct 2006 20:33:13 -0700, Chris wrote > > >>> from math import * > > >>> sin(0) > > 0.0 > > >>> sin(pi) > > 1.2246063538223773e-016 > > >>> sin(2*pi) > > -2.4492127076447545e-016 > > >>> cos(0) > > 1.0

Re: .doc to html and pdf conversion with python

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
google won't do a good job with .doc files but they may do pdf to html and back.. It's per each I just mentioned it to make fun of them here is my resume converted from a monster.com .doc file http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dftrj73t_3cfwjdv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Alexander Klingenstein w

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Chris
I don't understand what that number came from. My calculator gives me cos(pi*.5) = 0, and my interpreter gives me cos(pi*0.5) = 6.1230317691118863e-017. Max Erickson wrote: > Max Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Try sin(pi*0.5) to see similar behavior to cos(pi) or cos(pi*2). > > > >

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Carsten Haese
On 14 Oct 2006 20:33:13 -0700, Chris wrote > >>> from math import * > >>> sin(0) > 0.0 > >>> sin(pi) > 1.2246063538223773e-016 > >>> sin(2*pi) > -2.4492127076447545e-016 > >>> cos(0) > 1.0 > >>> cos(pi) > -1.0 > >>> cos(2*pi) > 1.0 > > The cosine function works fine, but I'm getting weird answers

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Chris
sin(pi*0.5) is what I expected, but I expected to get 0 for sin(pi). Max Erickson wrote: > "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from math import * > sin(0) > > 0.0 > sin(pi) > > 1.2246063538223773e-016 > sin(2*pi) > > -2.4492127076447545e-016 > cos(0) > > 1.0 > cos(

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Max Erickson
Max Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try sin(pi*0.5) to see similar behavior to cos(pi) or cos(pi*2). > Uhh, switch that, cos(pi*0.5)... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Max Erickson
"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: from math import * sin(0) > 0.0 sin(pi) > 1.2246063538223773e-016 sin(2*pi) > -2.4492127076447545e-016 cos(0) > 1.0 cos(pi) > -1.0 cos(2*pi) > 1.0 > > The cosine function works fine, but I'm getting weird answers for > sine. Is

Re: problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris wrote: > >>> from math import * > >>> sin(0) > 0.0 > >>> sin(pi) > 1.2246063538223773e-016 > >>> sin(2*pi) > -2.4492127076447545e-016 > >>> cos(0) > 1.0 > >>> cos(pi) > -1.0 > >>> cos(2*pi) > 1.0 > > The cosine function works fine, but I'm getting weird answers for sine. > Is this a bug? Am

problem with the 'math' module in 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread Chris
>>> from math import * >>> sin(0) 0.0 >>> sin(pi) 1.2246063538223773e-016 >>> sin(2*pi) -2.4492127076447545e-016 >>> cos(0) 1.0 >>> cos(pi) -1.0 >>> cos(2*pi) 1.0 The cosine function works fine, but I'm getting weird answers for sine. Is this a bug? Am I doing something wrong? -- http://mail.pyt

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Chris Johnson
spawn wrote: > but I've been struggling with this for far too long and I'm about to > start beating my head against the wall. > > My assignment seemed simple: create a program that will cacluate the > running total of user inputs until it hits 100. At 100 it should stop. > That's not the problem

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Brett Hoerner
spawn wrote: > Actually, they do end. If I > move my "guess" variable outside the outermost loop, then it becomes > infinte. I know, I tried it. Huh? When does "running" ever evaluate to false (therefore breaking either of the loops)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: What's up with the starship?

2006-10-14 Thread T. Bryan
Thomas Heller wrote: > I cannot connect to starship.python.net: neither http, nor can I login > interactively with ssl (and the host key seems to have changed as well). > > Does anyone know more? starship.python.net was compromised. It looked like a rootkit may have been installed. The volunte

Re: Bug in urllib?

2006-10-14 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
goyatlah wrote: > urllib.url2pathname("http://127.0.0.1:1030/js.cgi?pca&r=12181";) > gives IOError : Bad Url, only coz of the :1030 which should be > accurate portnumber. Is it something I did wrong, or a bug. And what > to do to avoid this (except rewriting url2pathname)? >>> help(urllib.url2pat

Re: Relative import bug or not?

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexey Borzenkov wrote: > After reading PEP-0328 I wanted to give relative imports a try: > > # somepkg/__init__.py > > > # somepkg/test1.py > from __future__ import absolute_import > from . import test2 > > if __name__ == "__main__": > print "Test" > > # somepkg/test2.py > > > But it compla

Re: a odd thing of "from __future__ import ..."

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter, thanks for the info. Peter Otten wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i can't use "from __future__ import ..." statement import two > > statesments in the same time. > > > why? python2.5/windows. > > This is a bug: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/05fdd5118638f3cd?h

Re: broken links on effbot.org

2006-10-14 Thread Rainy
Gerard Flanagan wrote: > The links here seem to be broken: > > http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm#documentation > > I'm getting: > > sorry, /zone/page.cgi?page=element does not exist > > sorry, /zone/page.cgi?page=pythondoc-elementtree-ElementTree does not > exist > > It was working two

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Rainy
spawn wrote: > > Also, you never break out of your deepest loop, why are you using two > > nested infinite-loops anyway? > > > > Regards, > > Brett Hoerner > > Umm ..because I'm new to programming? Actually, they do end. If I > move my "guess" variable outside the outermost loop, then it bec

Re: Need a function. Any built-in function or module for this?

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Rubin
"wcc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Specify direction[Left/Right/Up/Down] or : > > And if user type "L" or , the function will return "Left", if > user type "R", the function will return "Right", etc.. Hmm: def getchoice(prompt, choices, default): """prompt is a format string with a %s where

Need a function. Any built-in function or module for this?

2006-10-14 Thread wcc
Hello group, I need to write a function to get input from user. The prompt will be like this: Specify direction[Left/Right/Up/Down] or : And if user type "L" or , the function will return "Left", if user type "R", the function will return "Right", etc.. My quick search in python reference did no

Re: optparse: add trailing text in help message?

2006-10-14 Thread Steven Bethard
Duncan Booth wrote: from optparse import OptionParser usage = "usage: %prog [options] arg1 arg2" epilog = "that's all folks!" parser = OptionParser(usage=usage, epilog=epilog) parser.parse_args(['', '--help']) > Usage: [options] arg1 arg2 > > Options: > -h, --help show

Re: Starting out.

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > (according to the Urban Dictionary). > > talk about reliable sources... Well, as far as doing the research to prove them wrong, I'll give it a miss. > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread Alexey Borzenkov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but maybe it reduces code readabilty a bit for people > that have just started to program: > > mul2 = def(a, b): > return a * b > > Instead of: > > def mul2(a, b): > return a * b For such simple cases, yes. What about: button.click += def(obj): # do stuff

Bug in urllib?

2006-10-14 Thread goyatlah
urllib.url2pathname("http://127.0.0.1:1030/js.cgi?pca&r=12181";) gives IOError : Bad Url, only coz of the :1030 which should be accurate portnumber. Is it something I did wrong, or a bug. And what to do to avoid this (except rewriting url2pathname)? TIA Dolf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread bearophileHUGS
Alexey Borzenkov: > I was so attached to these "nameless" def-forms that I was even shocked > when I found that this doesn't work in python: > f = def(a, b): > return a*b > Another good feature of Boo, btw. I think Boo has some good things worth consideration (and maybe worth to copy) and so

Re: IDE that uses an external editor?

2006-10-14 Thread Ben Finney
Slawomir Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I haven't yet seen a definition of "Integrated Development > Environment" which would exclude Emacs... +1 QOTW Amen to that. -- \ "Never use a long word when there's a commensurate diminutive | `\ av

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread spawn
> Also, you never break out of your deepest loop, why are you using two > nested infinite-loops anyway? > > Regards, > Brett Hoerner Umm ..because I'm new to programming? Actually, they do end. If I move my "guess" variable outside the outermost loop, then it becomes infinte. I know, I trie

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Brett Hoerner
spawn wrote: > while running: > guess = int(raw_input('Enter an integer that I can use to add : ')) > subtotal = guess > while running: > guess = int(raw_input('I\'ll need another number : ')) > running_total = guess + subtotal You keep adding the orig

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Max Erickson
"spawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but I've been struggling with this for far too long and I'm about > to start beating my head against the wall. > -- > > I tried adding an additional "while" statement to capture the > second number, but it didn't seem to solve my proble

Re: Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Rubin
"spawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's not the problem, in fact, that part works. It's the adding > that isn't working. How can my program add 2 + 7 and come up with 14? > while running: > guess = int(raw_input('I\'ll need another number : ')) > running_to

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread Alexey Borzenkov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Compared to the Python I know and love, Ruby isn't quite the same. > However, it has at least one terrific feature: "blocks". Well, I particularly like how Boo (http://boo.codehaus.org) has done it: func(a, b, c) def(p1, p2, p3): stmts I was so attached to these

Ok. This IS homework ...

2006-10-14 Thread spawn
but I've been struggling with this for far too long and I'm about to start beating my head against the wall. My assignment seemed simple: create a program that will cacluate the running total of user inputs until it hits 100. At 100 it should stop. That's not the problem, in fact, that part work

Relative import bug or not?

2006-10-14 Thread Alexey Borzenkov
After reading PEP-0328 I wanted to give relative imports a try: # somepkg/__init__.py # somepkg/test1.py from __future__ import absolute_import from . import test2 if __name__ == "__main__": print "Test" # somepkg/test2.py But it complaints: C:\1\somepkg>test1.py Traceback (most recent c

Re: optparse: add trailing text in help message?

2006-10-14 Thread Count László de Almásy
Thanks for the help, all. Somone pointed out the 'epilogue' attribute to OptionParser that is new in Python 2.5, which does exactly what I am looking for. I did read the optparse docs for 2.5 fully before posting this question, and now that I've taken a second look, I see that epilog is NOT DOCUM

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread brenocon
Kay Schluehr wrote: > The with statement is already implemented in Python 2.5. > > http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/pep-343.html > > The main difference between the with statement and Ruby blocks is that > the with-statement does not support loops. Yielding a value of a > function decorated with a c

Re: Insert characters into string based on re ?

2006-10-14 Thread Frederic Rentsch
Matt wrote: > I am attempting to reformat a string, inserting newlines before certain > phrases. For example, in formatting SQL, I want to start a new line at > each JOIN condition. Noting that strings are immutable, I thought it > best to spllit the string at the key points, then join with '\n'. >

broken links on effbot.org

2006-10-14 Thread Gerard Flanagan
The links here seem to be broken: http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm#documentation I'm getting: sorry, /zone/page.cgi?page=element does not exist sorry, /zone/page.cgi?page=pythondoc-elementtree-ElementTree does not exist It was working two days ago, possibly yesterday (13th Oct). G

Re: File read-write mode: problem appending after reading

2006-10-14 Thread Tim Peters
[Frederic Rentsch] > Thanks a lot for your input. I seemed to notice that everything > works fine without setting the cursor as long as it stops before the end > of the file. Is that also a coincidence that may not work? "if you want to read following a write, or write following a read, on

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Boddie wrote: > hg wrote: > > > > Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the > > QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to > > understand the business model). > > There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more: >

ANN: ElementFilter - find and remove elements and attributes from ElementTree XML

2006-10-14 Thread Gerard Flanagan
An add-on for ElementTree. Info and download here: http://www.gflanagan.net/site/python/utils/elementfilter/index.html Gerard -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: .doc to html and pdf conversion with python

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexander Klingenstein wrote: > I need to take a bunch of .doc files (word 2000) which have a little text > including some tables/layout and mostly pictures and comvert them to a pdf > and extract the text and images > separately too. If I have a pdf, I can do > create the html with pdftohtml ca

Re: File read-write mode: problem appending after reading

2006-10-14 Thread Frederic Rentsch
Tim, Thanks a lot for your input. I seemed to notice that everything works fine without setting the cursor as long as it stops before the end of the file. Is that also a coincidence that may not work? Frederic Tim Peters wrote: > [Frederic Rentsch] > >>Working with read and write

Re: IDE that uses an external editor?

2006-10-14 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:01:17 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #> #> Slawomir> #> One thing that's kept me from even looking at IDEs is that #> Slawomir> #> to the best of my knowledge none of them will integrate #> Slawomir> #> properly with external editors like Emacs or vi. #> #>

Re: .doc to html and pdf conversion with python

2006-10-14 Thread Paul McNett
Alexander Klingenstein wrote: > I need to take a bunch of .doc files (word 2000) which have a little text > including some tables/layout and mostly pictures and comvert them to a pdf > and extract the text and images separately too. If I have a pdf, I can do > create the html with pdftohtml call

Re: Starting out.

2006-10-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (according to the Urban Dictionary). talk about reliable sources... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

.doc to html and pdf conversion with python

2006-10-14 Thread Alexander Klingenstein
I need to take a bunch of .doc files (word 2000) which have a little text including some tables/layout and mostly pictures and comvert them to a pdf and extract the text and images separately too. If I have a pdf, I can do create the html with pdftohtml called from python with popen. However I n

Re: IDE that uses an external editor?

2006-10-14 Thread skip
Slawomir> #> One thing that's kept me from even looking at IDEs is that Slawomir> #> to the best of my knowledge none of them will integrate Slawomir> #> properly with external editors like Emacs or vi. Slawomir> To the best of *my* knowledge, Emacs integrates pretty well Slaw

Re: Starting out.

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 8< > > > Well, I'm on vacation this week, so 5 pm means nothing to me: > > > > teetertotter > > > > from the Consolidated Word List from puzzlers.org. > > > > Yes, it's also spelled with a hyphen or a space, but as

Re: SPE for 2.5?

2006-10-14 Thread John DeRosa
On 13 Oct 2006 17:41:12 -0700, "Fuzzyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >John Salerno wrote: >> Does anyone know if SPE is compatible with Python 2.5? I don't see a >> Windows exe file for 2.5, so I wasn't sure if I should use the 2.4 version. >> > >Certainly worth trying the 2.4 version, but it's

Re: optparse: add trailing text in help message?

2006-10-14 Thread Duncan Booth
"Count László de Almásy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a standard way with optparse to include a blurb of text after > the usage section, description, and the list of options? This is > often useful to include examples or closing comments when the help > message is printed out. Many of t

Re: Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread veracon
Thanks, at least now I know I wasn't doing something wrong. Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, veracon wrote: > > > Actually, it appears to still be using the default binary > > (/usr/bin/python). Can I be sure it's actually reading the .profile > > file? I'm executing throu

Re: optparse: add trailing text in help message?

2006-10-14 Thread Steven Bethard
Count László de Almásy wrote: > Is there a standard way with optparse to include a blurb of text after > the usage section, description, and the list of options? This is > often useful to include examples or closing comments when the help > message is printed out. Many of the GNU commands do this

Re: Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, veracon wrote: > Actually, it appears to still be using the default binary > (/usr/bin/python). Can I be sure it's actually reading the .profile > file? I'm executing through regular CGI in Apache. The `~/.profile` is executed when *you* log into your account. CGI scripts

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Boddie
Kay Schluehr wrote: > > Spreading tiny function definitions all over the code > may be finally not such a good idea compared with a few generic methods > that get just called? OO might run out of fashion these days but Python > is not Java and Pythons OO is pretty lightweight. I think you've succe

Re: a odd thing of "from __future__ import ..."

2006-10-14 Thread Peter Otten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i can't use "from __future__ import ..." statement import two > statesments in the same time. > why? python2.5/windows. This is a bug: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/05fdd5118638f3cd?hl=en&; Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytho

Re: Can I set up a timed callback without Tkinter or twisted or something?

2006-10-14 Thread hg
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > Hi, > > I want to do the equivalent of the after thingy in tkinter - setting up in > effect a timed call back. > > My use case is as a "supervisory" timer - I want to set up an alarm, which I > want to cancel if the expected occurrence occurs - but its not a GUI app. >

Re: locals() and globals()

2006-10-14 Thread Kay Schluehr
Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > Hi > > this exaple: > > def lcl(): > n=1 > x=locals() > x["n"]=100 > print "n in lcl() is:" +str(n) > #This will say Name error > #x["new"]=1 > #print new > > > n=1 > x=globals() > x["n"]=100 > print "gobal n is:" +str(n) > x["new"]=1 > print "new

Re: Can I set up a timed callback without Tkinter or twisted or something?

2006-10-14 Thread Scott David Daniels
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > I want to do the equivalent of the after thingy in tkinter - setting up in > effect a timed call back. > > My use case is as a "supervisory" timer - I want to set up an alarm, which I > want to cancel if the expected occurrence occurs - but its not a GUI app. Use a thr

Re: Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread veracon
Actually, it appears to still be using the default binary (/usr/bin/python). Can I be sure it's actually reading the .profile file? I'm executing through regular CGI in Apache. veracon wrote: > Thanks a lot! > > Jerry wrote: > > /usr/bin/env just searches your PATH variable to find it, but it does

Re: PyDoc and mod_python

2006-10-14 Thread John J. Lee
Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > durumdara wrote: > > > I need to write documentation for my mod_python website, for the > > base classes, functions, modules. > > The problem, that mod_python is imported "apache" that not existing > > in the normal, pythonic way (only in Apache). > >

Re: Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread veracon
Thanks a lot! Jerry wrote: > /usr/bin/env just searches your PATH variable to find it, but it does > so in order. So, if you want it to find your python instead of a > system provided one, just alter your PATH variable and put > /home/my_username/python2.5 in front of everything else. > > example

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Boddie
Heikki Toivonen wrote: > Paul Boddie wrote: > > hg wrote: > >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was > >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? > > > > Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm > > of Eclipse, or

Re: Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread Jerry
/usr/bin/env just searches your PATH variable to find it, but it does so in order. So, if you want it to find your python instead of a system provided one, just alter your PATH variable and put /home/my_username/python2.5 in front of everything else. example in .profile: PATH=/home//python2.5:$P

Making a shorter shebang

2006-10-14 Thread veracon
Long story short, in order to use Python 2.5, I've compiled it in my own account on my hosting. It works fantastic as /home/my_username/python2.5, but the shebang is a bit long. Is there a way to shorten it (environment variables?) or, even better, make /usr/bin/env python point to it? Thanks in a

Can I set up a timed callback without Tkinter or twisted or something?

2006-10-14 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Hi, I want to do the equivalent of the after thingy in tkinter - setting up in effect a timed call back. My use case is as a "supervisory" timer - I want to set up an alarm, which I want to cancel if the expected occurrence occurs - but its not a GUI app. My googling gets a lot of stuff pointing

Re: Thread termination

2006-10-14 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"Nick Craig-Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hendrik van Rooyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > can't be done from outside without co operation of thread in question. > > google this newsgroup > > Hopefully google will discover also the thread where the above statement is > proved to be false

Re: Best IDE?

2006-10-14 Thread BartlebyScrivener
Fuzzyman wrote: > Hmm... only 31 results over a period of 8 years. That's a couple of > orders of magnitude less than I would have guessed. Well, if you take the quotes off of "best ide" then you get 342. rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to share session with IE

2006-10-14 Thread John J. Lee
"zdp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > 1. Use the cookie of IE, so I don't need to code to logon. That means I > must use ClientCookie. I found some example in the docs and the > newsgroup. Below is some code based on the docs of ClientCookie. But > the page I get is still the page told me must

Re: Motions.

2006-10-14 Thread Dr. Pastor
Thank you Sir! Gerrit Holl wrote: > On 2006-10-11 00:26:38 +0200, Dr. Pastor wrote: == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Tota

Re: How to share session with IE

2006-10-14 Thread John J. Lee
Cameron Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Another option instead of making your program run through a series of > clicks and text inputs, which is difficult to program, is to browse > the html source until you find the name of the script that processes > the login, and use python to request

Re: locals() and globals()

2006-10-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > why accessing the names dictionary globals() and locals() gives > different results? the documentation has the answer: "The contents of this dictionary should not be modified; changes may not affect the values of local variables used by the interpreter" http:

Re: IDE that uses an external editor?

2006-10-14 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:04:56 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #> One thing that's kept me from even looking at IDEs is that to the #> best of my knowledge none of them will integrate properly with #> external editors like Emacs or vi. To the best of *my* knowledge, Emacs integrates pretty well with

locals() and globals()

2006-10-14 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
Hi this exaple: def lcl(): n=1 x=locals() x["n"]=100 print "n in lcl() is:" +str(n) #This will say Name error #x["new"]=1 #print new n=1 x=globals() x["n"]=100 print "gobal n is:" +str(n) x["new"]=1 print "new is:" +str(new) lcl() produces gobal n is:100 new is:1 n

a odd thing of "from __future__ import ..."

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i can't use "from __future__ import ..." statement import two statesments in the same time. for the simple code: from __future__ import with_statement, division with file('url.txt','r') as f: for line in f: print line it can't run until i change the first sentence to below from __futur

Re: Python component model

2006-10-14 Thread Roel Schroeven
Edward Diener No Spam schreef: > It would be easier for me if you could get an NG somewhere for > Enthought, perhaps on GMane, since I always find mailing lists much more > clunky than a good NG. But that is up to Enthought. FYI: you don't necessarily depend on Enthought for that; anyone can ask

Re: Best IDE?

2006-10-14 Thread robert
Ahmer wrote: > What do you guys use? > Why? > What do you like and hate about it? > What platform(s) is it avalable on? > How much does it cost? > etc. On Windows... I uninstalled Komodo (several times; fat, crashes, slow debugger ...) I uninstalled Wing I uninstalled Boa I uninstalled PythonWork

Re: Reverse string-formatting (maybe?)

2006-10-14 Thread Peter Otten
Dustan wrote: > Is there any builtin function or module with a function similar to my > made-up, not-written deformat function as follows? I can't imagine it > would be too easy to write, but possible... > template = 'I am %s, and he %s last %s.' values = ('coding', "coded', 'week') >>>

Re: Reverse string-formatting (maybe?)

2006-10-14 Thread Tim Chase
template = 'I am %s, and he %s last %s.' values = ('coding', "coded', 'week') formatted = template % values formatted > 'I am coding, and he coded last week.' deformat(formatted, template) > ('coding', 'coded', 'week') > > expanded (for better visual): deformat('I am

Re: Reverse string-formatting (maybe?)

2006-10-14 Thread Tim Chase
template = 'I am %s, and he %s last %s.' values = ('coding', "coded', 'week') formatted = template % values formatted > 'I am coding, and he coded last week.' deformat(formatted, template) > ('coding', 'coded', 'week') > > expanded (for better visual): deformat('I am

Re: Standard Forth versus Python: a case study

2006-10-14 Thread jacko
Paddy wrote: > werty wrote: > > Apples/oranges ? programmers are making very little $$ today . > >Thats software ! No one is makin money on obsolete Forth , > > so why a comparisom ? > > > > Ultimately the best OpSys will be free and millions of lines of code > > obsoleted . Because n

Re: IDE that uses an external editor?

2006-10-14 Thread robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One thing that's kept me from even looking at IDEs is that to the best of my > knowledge none of them will integrate properly with external editors like > Emacs or vi. I know lots of tools support "Emacs-like keybindings", but > believe me, I've never found one that does

Re: Python component model

2006-10-14 Thread Steve Holden
Edward Diener No Spam wrote: > Kay Schluehr wrote: > >>val bykoski wrote: >> >>>Peter Wang wrote: >>> Edward, This isn't in response to any specific one of the 100+ posts on this thread, but I justed wanted to encourage you to continue your investigation into Python component

Re: wxPython installation interferes with win32ui/win32gui

2006-10-14 Thread robert
Gabriel Genellina wrote: > At Friday 13/10/2006 19:33, robert wrote: > >> > c:\Python23\pythonw.exe.manifest >> > c:\Python23python.exe.manifest >> > >> >> I found out that in fact when I move away these 2 files to a backup >> location after a wx installation, things go well again. >> >> What at a

Reverse string-formatting (maybe?)

2006-10-14 Thread Dustan
Is there any builtin function or module with a function similar to my made-up, not-written deformat function as follows? I can't imagine it would be too easy to write, but possible... >>> template = 'I am %s, and he %s last %s.' >>> values = ('coding', "coded', 'week') >>> formatted = template % v

Re: Attribute error

2006-10-14 Thread Max Erickson
"Teja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > What is attribute error? what causes that error, especially with COM > objects? > > To be precise : > > Attribute Error: LCAS.LabcarController.writeLogWindow() > > Here, LCAS is a COM object > > Thanks > Teja.P > LabcarController might be

Re: terminate execfile

2006-10-14 Thread Paddy
Teja wrote: > Teja wrote: > > > How to terminate execfile() in the middle of its execution. Any > > pointers ??? > > Its very urgent please > > > > > > Thanks > > Teja.P > > Can I raise an interrupt using PyErr_SetInterrupt??? Is so , does any > one know how to do it? I presume there is on

Twisted Deferreds (was: Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python)

2006-10-14 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Paul Rubin wrote: > But that's just ugly. The fetchPage function should take the > callback as an argument. In an asynchronous system it would even > be buggy. It won't, in my understanding/experience, since the local context must first terminate before the reactor takes control again and hand

Re: Python component model

2006-10-14 Thread Edward Diener No Spam
Kay Schluehr wrote: > val bykoski wrote: >> Peter Wang wrote: >>> Edward, >>> >>> This isn't in response to any specific one of the 100+ posts on this >>> thread, but I justed wanted to encourage you to continue your >>> investigation into Python component models and maybe looking for some >>> comm

Re: Python component model

2006-10-14 Thread Edward Diener No Spam
Peter Wang wrote: > Edward Diener wrote: >> It looks as if traits is an attempt to create a "property" in the >> component terminology which I originally specified. I will take a look >> at it. > > Traits is frighteningly similar to the requirements that you laid out > in your post (the example fo

Re: SOAPpy and callback

2006-10-14 Thread Paul McGuire
"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Maybe we have a misunderstanding here. I'm not a native speaker, so bear > with me. > That's okay, I'll type very, very slowly. :) > In CORBA or RMI, there is a notion of an object/interface reference passed > aro

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread James Stroud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all -- > > Compared to the Python I know and love, Ruby isn't quite the same. > However, it has at least one terrific feature: "blocks". Whereas in > Python a > "block" is just several lines of locally-scoped-together code, in Ruby > a > "block" defines a closure (an

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread Duncan Booth
Paul Rubin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> deferred = fetchPage('http://python.org') >> def _showResponse(response) >> print "fancy formatting: %s" % response.text >> deferred.addCallback(_showResponse) >> >> Lots of Twisted code has to be writ

Re: Thread termination

2006-10-14 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Hendrik van Rooyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can't be done from outside without co operation of thread in question. > google this newsgroup Hopefully google will discover also the thread where the above statement is proved to be false ;-) This might be a useful thing to search for... ctypes

Re: A friendlier, sugarier lambda -- a proposal for Ruby-like blocks in python

2006-10-14 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kay Schluehr wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Many have complained about this crippled-ness of lambda, but it >> actually makes some sense. Since Python uses colons and indentation to >> define blocks of code, it would be awkward to close a multiline lambda. >> The

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