Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:21:55 -0700, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >I don't think any of it bordered on force or fraud. However, their >obligation to their shareholders requires them to do anythign that borders >on force/fraud so long as it isn't force/fraud. I avoid

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On 18 Oct 2005 06:20:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by >w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things, and mixing them up by >calling both standards is a bad thing. Because ... what are the cons

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and >>> what they understand. Standards and recommend

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [ w3c "standard" v.s. ISO ] > You haven't said why you thinbk "standards" are more valuable than > "recommendations". We apparently both agree they're no more likely to be > observed, so what is th

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and >> what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. > > Unless, of course,

Re: Hygenic Macros

David Pokorny wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one > good use case. In "R", the statistical programming language, you can > multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise > multiplication). In Python, I have to type > > import Num

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Comparing lists

"Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Christian Stapfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Christian Stapfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> This is why we would like to

Re: Question on class member in python

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Hygenic Macros

Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In "R", the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Roedy Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:44:55 -0700, "David Schwartz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >>It is not Microsoft's obligation to be "fair". It is Microsoft's >>obligation to push their vision of the future of comp

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:44:55 -0700, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >It is not Microsoft's obligation to be "fair". It is Microsoft's >obligation to push their vision of the future of computing, one with >Microsoft's products at the center, using anything short of fo

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:43:16 -0700, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >I understand why the argument is invalid. I'm presenting it as an >example of a similar invalid argument. Not every post is meant to contradict or inform the OP. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Gree

Re: Mutual module imports

"Tony Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snipped] > > I have written a Python module that uses some C functions. I wrote the > module in two parts, one Python, one Pyrex (C). They need to share some > globals. > > [snipped] > > Now the Python module imports the Pyrex module and just shoves >

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying: >Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to >> remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? > >Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is not Microsoft's obligation to be "fair". It is Microsoft's > obligation to push their vision of the future of computing, one with > Microsoft's products at the center, using anything short of force or fraud. Wrong. The only obligation Micr

Re: Vim capable IDE?

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Re: A Logging System for Python

Even better ! Thanks, Philippe Robert Kern wrote: > Philippe C. Martin wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I have been looking for a logging system and have come across >> http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html. >> >> As the site refers to PEP 282, I assume this package is a potential >> contende

Re: Mutual module imports

The trick is via something called Extending. Pyrex just makes extending a bit easier, but, depending on the complexity of the function, it might be easier just to extend it yourself. Basically you make a function that translates python into C. There are some instructions on the Python website, http

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Mutual module imports

How does one normally make a Python extension module that has some parts in Python and some functions in C share globals between the Python and C functions? Will that approach work with Pyrex? I have written a Python module that uses some C functions. I wrote the module in two parts, one Pyth

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Re: ordered keywords?

Kent Johnson wrote: > Ron Adam wrote: > >> drawshapes( triangle=3, square=4, color=red, >> polygon(triangle, color), >> polygon(square, color) ) >> >> This comes close to the same pattern used in SVG and other formats >> where you have definitions before expressions. > >

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Roedy Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:36:53 -0700, "David Schwartz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >>As for it being illegal, it was illegal only because if was Microsoft >>doing it. There's nothing illegal about a car de

Vim capable IDE?

Hello, Is there a Python-sensitive, Linux compatible IDE out there with standard bells and whistles (source browser, symbolic debugger, etc.) but with the action-per-keystroke editing capabilities of Vim? I have failed to turn up such an IDE in my Googling and IDE project-page browsing. :-( Than

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Roedy Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:29:36 -0700, "David Schwartz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >>By the way, this is based on the same flawed premise that a lot of >>post-Y2K griping was based on. It went like this, "

Re: Why asci-only symbols?

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:34:09 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengt Richter wrote: >> Well, what will be assumed about name after the lines >> >> #-*- coding: latin1 -*- >> name = 'Martin Löwis' >> >> ? > >Are you asking what is assumed about the id

Re: A Logging System for Python

Philippe C. Martin wrote: > Dear all, > > I have been looking for a logging system and have come across > http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html. > > As the site refers to PEP 282, I assume this package is a potential > contender for integration in the Python distribution. > > Am I correct

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17 Oct 2005 03:17:16 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Which standards? Again: w3c is not an official standards organization. > > What does it take in your book for a standards organisation to be > "official" -- a Swiss head

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >>> or quoted : >>> No, it's a recommendation, an advi

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:42:09 +, John Bokma wrote: > >>> When did Netscape executives perjure themselves in court? >>> >>> When did Netscape commit fraud? Astro-turfing? Patent infringement? >>> Theft of code? >> >> They got killed too soon. > >

A Logging System for Python

Dear all, I have been looking for a logging system and have come across http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html. As the site refers to PEP 282, I assume this package is a potential contender for integration in the Python distribution. Am I correct and if so is there any trend to include it i

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, an

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:37:35 -0700, Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >You've been around long enough to learn to recognize this poster and >ignore him. Sounds like your plonk filter is on the fritz then. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking ne

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:25:18 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >Actually, *any* company with a defacto monopoly pulling such a stunt >would be found in violation of the law. Such companies operate under >different legal rules than other companies. This was true when IBM was

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:36:53 -0700, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >As for it being illegal, it was illegal only because if was Microsoft >doing it. There's nothing illegal about a car dealer not selling a car >without an engine. But that is not what was happening. I

Re: ordered keywords?

Ron Adam wrote: > drawshapes( triangle=3, square=4, color=red, > polygon(triangle, color), > polygon(square, color) ) > > This comes close to the same pattern used in SVG and other formats where > you have definitions before expressions. Why is this better than the obviou

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:29:36 -0700, "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >By the way, this is based on the same flawed premise that a lot of >post-Y2K griping was based on. It went like this, "wow, we get all concerned >and spent all this money on a problem that never even

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:17:03 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >Yup. When NS was the 800 lb gorilla on they acted like MS, I think you would need to give some examples. They gave away a free browser. What other evil thing did they do? -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Gre

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On 17 Oct 2005 03:17:16 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >Which standards? Again: w3c is not an official standards organization. What does it take in your book for a standards organisation to be "official" -- a Swiss head office, a room at the UN, a branch on the US govern

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > So you think that MS, based on something that might (or might not > happen) somewhere in a future, burned a lot of money? By the way, this is based on the same flawed premise that a lot of post-Y2K griping was based

Re: win32api.FindFiles Win2003, problem with Short Name

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Re: How to get a raised exception from other thread

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Monday 17 October 2005 05:27 pm, Roel Schroeven wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > > Or do you really consider the Linux desktop (any of them) quality? > > Actually yes. Are they better than MS's desktop? Depends on one's needs. > If I didn't need MS for my job, there's a very big chance I would onl

Re: Why asci-only symbols?

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Re: override a property

On 17 Oct 2005 11:13:32 -0700, "SPE - Stani's Python Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No, you can just do it on the fly. You can even create properties >(attributes) on the fly. > >class Dummy: > property = True > >d = Dummy() >d.property = False >d.new = True > a simple attribute is not a p

Re: ordered keywords?

Ron Adam wrote: > > def lamb(args): > for v in args: print v > > def feedlamb(): > print locals() > y = 20 > lamb( (lambda x=10: (x,y,x+y))() ) > print locals() > > feedlamb() > > {} > 10 > 20 > 30 > {'y': 20} > > > Cool, this is the exact behavior I was thinking of, but

Re: override a property

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:52:19 +0100, Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need to >create >another class with the property changed? How do you need to "override" it? Care to create a toy example with a "wish I could here" comme

Re: Comparing lists

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > implementation of the components one's considering! Rough ideas of > *EXPECTED* run-times (big-Theta) for various subcomponents one is > sketching are *MUCH* more interesting and important than "asymptotic > worst-case for amounts of input tending to in

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:42:09 +, John Bokma wrote: >> When did Netscape executives perjure themselves in court? >> >> When did Netscape commit fraud? Astro-turfing? Patent infringement? Theft >> of code? > > They got killed too soon. Neither the Netscape executives nor Netscape the company h

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Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:31:38 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:32:09 -0500, l v <[EMAIL

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and > what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. Unless, of course, you want to support any compliant browser. In which case standards and recommend

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

John Bokma wrote: > Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>John Bokma wrote: >> >>>Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> But that's not the point; the point is that they have the choice. If MS had it its way, they wouldn't have that choice. >>> >>> >>>I doubt that. But e

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> or quoted : >> >>>No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they >>>would call it a stand

Re: [PIL]: Question On Changing Colour

On Thursday 13 October 2005 02:58 pm, Andrea Gavana wrote: > # that is the old colour --> GREY > rgb_old = (0.7, 0.7, 0.7) > > So, no matter what colour I choose as a "new" colour, the Hue part of the new colour doesn't change in RGB. In other words, leaving the old value for "Saturation" and "Va

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, and XML is a recommendation. >> >> And the practical differ

Re: Problem Pythoncard tutorial

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Re: override a property

Robin Becker a écrit : > Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need to > create another class with the property changed? Do you mean attributes or properties ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Run process with timeout

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Micah Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [... re problem killing children of shell script ...] > > Is there any way to enable Python's subprocess module to do (implicit?) > > group setup to ease killing of all children?

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Re: List of strings to list of floats ?

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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > So you think that MS, based on something that might (or might not > happen) somewhere in a future, burned a lot of money? Yep. Why do you think Microsoft tried to balkanize Java? >>> No: the historical fact is that

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web based, >>and the OS shouldn't matter, why do Linux distributions matter? > > The point is you make your

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:17:03 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > >> Yup. When NS was the 800 lb gorilla > > When was this? When did Netscape have a monopoly in any market? > > Netscape was never the 800 lb gorilla. > >> on they acted like MS, > > When did

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>But that's not the point; the point is that they have the choice. >>>If MS had it its way, they wouldn't have that choice. >> >> >> I doubt that. But even if you're right, do you really

Re: ordered keywords?

Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Ron Adam wrote: > >> >> Is there a way to preserve or capture the order which keywords are given? >> >> >>> def foo(**kwds): >> ...print kwds >> ... >> >>> foo(one=1, two=2, three=3) >> {'three': 3, 'two': 2, 'one': 1} >> >> >> I would love to reverse the *args, and

Re: Perl-Python-a-Day: split a file full path

Xah Lee wrote: > > In Perl, spliting a full path into parts is done like this: Dr.Ruud wrote: > And then follows Perl-code that only works with an optional .html > "extension", Thanks for the note. I've corrected it here: http://xahlee.org/perl-python/split_fullpath.html namely: Note: the second

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You don't get it. The point is, you can pick any Linux >>> distribution and >>> still use the same applicati

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, and XML is a recommendation. > > And the practical difference between the two is > > That's right, nil. If you both read them as a co

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:17:03 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: >> Yup. When NS was the 800 lb gorilla > When was this? When did Netscape have a monopoly in any market? Starting with the release of Netscape 1.0, until MS decided to take it away from them. At on

Re: [newbie]Is there a module for print object in a readable format?

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Re: Queue question

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Re: Upgrading 2.4.1 to 2.4.2

Sori Schwimmer wrote: > Hi, > > I have Python 2.4.1 and have downloaded 2.4.2. Is > there a way to avoid installing everything and, > instead, just upgrade? > Yes. Just uninstall 2.4.1 and install 2.4.2 - all your extensions and additional modules should remain (though it wouldn't hurt to do a b

Re: List of strings to list of floats ?

Erik Max Francis wrote: > Madhusudan Singh wrote: > >> Thanks. Now, a slightly more complicated question. >> >> Say I have two lists of floats. And I wish to generate a list of floats >> that is a user defined function of the two lists. > > result = [sqrt(x**2 + y**2) for x, y in zip(xs, ys)] >

Re: your mail

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Re: Perl-Python-a-Day: split a file full path

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Sori Schwimmer wrote: > I have Python 2.4.1 and have downloaded 2.4.2. Is > there a way to avoid installing everything and, > instead, just upgrade? Run the following code on your 2.4.1 installation and post the results: python -m platform Or, if you prefer: import platform platform.pl

Re: Run process with timeout

Micah Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any way to enable Python's subprocess module to do (implicit?) > group setup to ease killing of all children? If not, is it a reasonable > RFE? Not as far as I know. It might be a reasonable request in suitable dialects of Unix-like OSes, thou

Re: Comparing lists

Christian Stapfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alex Martelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Christian Stapfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> This is why we would like to have a way of (roughly) > >> estimating the reasonableness of the outlines of a > >>

Re: Stripping ASCII codes when parsing

David Pratt wrote: > I am working with a text format that advises to strip any ascii control > characters (0 - 30) as part of parsing data and also the ascii pipe > character (124) from the data. I think many of these characters are > from a different time. Since I have never seen most of these

Xml document writing

Hi, I have to append a child under a node of a Xml document: I tried to create both a text and a node element, but the child doesn't figure in the Xml document. Can anyone help me? Thank you very much! :) -- Vinci -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: List of strings to list of floats ?

Madhusudan Singh wrote: > Thanks. Now, a slightly more complicated question. > > Say I have two lists of floats. And I wish to generate a list of floats that > is a user defined function of the two lists. result = [sqrt(x**2 + y**2) for x, y in zip(xs, ys)] -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAI

Re: UI toolkits for Python

Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because everybody is capable of running a JS engine, even on > computers on which you don't have rights to install something. I don't think using JS so heavily without a compelling reason is really in the WWW spirit. Lots of browsers don't have JS. A

Re: Repost: Text not showing up

> The problem is that the changes take effect after gtk has reentered its > event-loop. Which won't happen until your programs terminate. With programs I mean of course the burning commandos. Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: UI toolkits for Python

Hallöchen! Paul Rubin writes: > Michael Ekstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> 2) Keybindings in a web application >> >> Not sure here, but JavaScript may be able to do something to >> accomplish some of this. A web-delivered XUL app can definitely >> do this. But

Re: Repost: Text not showing up

>> Hi all, I am new to python and trying to write a simple GUI that would >> call 2 growisofs processes (dvd burning) at the same time, and retrive >> the exit code to be printed on a text box (couldn't find any program >> that could use multiple dvd burners, not even k3b). Excuse me if this >>

Re: UI toolkits for Python

Michael Ekstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 2) Keybindings in a web application > > Not sure here, but JavaScript may be able to do something to accomplish > some of this. A web-delivered XUL app can definitely do this. But > that's pushing the limits of what can be considered a web applica

Re: ordered keywords?

Ron Adam wrote: > > Is there a way to preserve or capture the order which keywords are given? > > >>> def foo(**kwds): > ...print kwds > ... > >>> foo(one=1, two=2, three=3) > {'three': 3, 'two': 2, 'one': 1} > > > I would love to reverse the *args, and **kwds as well so I can use kwds

Re: UI toolkits for Python

On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Kenneth McDonald wrote: > Web interfaces are missing a lot more than this. Here are just a > few things that cannot be done with web-based interfaces (correct > me where I'm wrong): > > 1) A real word processor. > 2) Keybindings in a web application > 3) Drag and

Upgrading 2.4.1 to 2.4.2

Hi, I have Python 2.4.1 and have downloaded 2.4.2. Is there a way to avoid installing everything and, instead, just upgrade? Thanks, Sorin __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://mail.python.o

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