Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-15 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
Hm, interesting. So I'm hearing lots of different opinions here, but it seems like there's not too many radical thoughts about not using snake at all and it can be pretty much summed up to 2 things 1) use a snake 2) combine snake with -some- monty python's symbolic I personally totally like the

Re: Python IDE

2004-12-15 Thread dataangel
fuzzylollipop wrote: TruStudio for Eclipse is nice for those everything must be free socialists. ActiveState Komodo is probably the best commerical Python IDE and the ActiveState Python plugin for Visual Studio is great for those that do VS. It's also great for those college students looking to

Re: Html or Pdf to Rtf (Linux) with Python

2004-12-15 Thread Axel Straschil
Hallo! However, our company's product, PDFTextStream does do a phenomenal job of extracting text and metadata out of PDF documents. It's crazy-fast, has a clean API, and in general gets the job done very nicely. It presents two points of compromise from your idea situation: 1. It only produces

libxml2/xpath

2004-12-15 Thread Maxim Khesin
I am trying to do some xpath on http://fluidobjects.com/doc.xhtml but cannot get past 'point A' (that is, I am totally stuck): >> import libxml2 >> mydoc = libxml2.parseDoc(text) >> mydoc.xpathEval('/html') >> [] this returns an empty resultlist, which just seems plain wrong. Can anyone throw a s

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread Dave Benjamin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adam DePrince wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 18:27, Roy Smith wrote: >> Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I did not really 'get' OOP until after learning Python. The >> > relatively simple but powerful user class model made more sense to >> > me than C++.

Re: How do I convert characters into integers?

2004-12-15 Thread Binu K S
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:59:13 -0500, Adam DePrince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > message = [chr( (ord( x ) + 3 )%256) for x in message] > Minor correction: message = ''.join([chr( (ord( x ) + 3 )%256) for x in message]) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: >> how about: >> >> http://vpython.org/ > > hi, > > thanks, I didn't know about that. > > do you (or anyone else) have a recommendation for 2D type > graphics? WCK, Tk's Canvas, wxPython (do they have a canvas-style widget available these days), any other self-respec

Re: Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Doug Holton
Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: First of all, I *really* like Python ;-) I need some help with the graphical side of things. I would like to do some basic graphics with Python, but I am not sure what the best/most effective way for me to do what I want. Basically, I would like to be able to create some b

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:56:50 -0500, Jeremy Bowers wrote: > editing with the object representing the GUI widget; I actually give each > editable object a guaranteed unique id on creation, never changed, and I > define __eq__(self, other) as "return self is other". Before anybody asks why I don't u

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:08:09 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: > And I think that is a stupid reason. There are enough other situations > were people work with mutable objects but don't wish to mutate specific > objects. Like objects in a sorted sequence you want to keep that way > or objects in a heap

RE: Python compiler method

2004-12-15 Thread Delaney, Timothy C (Timothy)
Lady_Valerie wrote: > hello guys! i just want to ask favor, coz i want to know how python > compiler method could be done? im really clueless of this programming > language hope anyone coule help me with this topic... im just focusing > only on the compiler of the python.thanks a lot!!! This shou

Re: Python 3.0

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 12 December 2004 09:27 pm, duane osterloth wrote: > I'm looking for a stand alone email program which is not browser based. > I simply want to write, send and receive email without accessing the > internet. Is Python 3.0 that kind of program? I'd appreciate your > response. The fa

Re: Python vs. Perl

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Saturday 11 December 2004 04:10 pm, Michael McGarry wrote: > I intend to use a scripting language for GUI development and front end > code for my simulations in C. I want a language that can support SQL, > Sockets, File I/O, and shell interaction. In my humble opinion, anything complicated en

Re: Python vs. Perl

2004-12-15 Thread Dan
I'm inexperienced in both languages, and am toying around with both now, so I offer these comments with warnings of the blind leading the blind. As far as regular expressions go I can't offer much information. They both meet my needs. I prefer the Python syntax, however: it is possible in both lan

Python compiler method

2004-12-15 Thread Lady_Valerie
hello guys! i just want to ask favor, coz i want to know how python compiler method could be done? im really clueless of this programming language hope anyone coule help me with this topic... im just focusing only on the compiler of the python.thanks a lot!!! lady valerie -- http://mail.python.

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
In reply to the OP, I think the snake mascot drawing is cute and pretty compelling. On Sunday 12 December 2004 05:49 pm, Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: > 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. > If we use a mascot as its image, we would be giving the wrong idea: > that Python is a "toy"

Re: Html or Pdf to Rtf (Linux) with Python

2004-12-15 Thread Chas Emerick
I haven't seen any solid responses come across the wire, and I suspect there isn't a product or package that will do exactly what you want. However, our company's product, PDFTextStream does do a phenomenal job of extracting text and metadata out of PDF documents. It's crazy-fast, has a clean

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Adam DePrince
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 10:26, Jp Calderone wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:18:21 GMT, Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Antoon Pardon wrote: > > > Op 2004-12-15, Fredrik Lundh schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>sorry, but I don't understand your reply at all. are you saying that > > >>d

Re: Efficient grep using Python?

2004-12-15 Thread Tim Peters
[Jane Austine] > fromkeys(open(f).readlines()) and fromkeys(open(f)) seem to be > equivalent. Semantically, yes; pragmatically, no, in the way explained before. > When I pass an iterator instance(or a generator iterator) to the > dict.fromkeys, it is expanded at that moment, I don't know what "e

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread Adam DePrince
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 18:27, Roy Smith wrote: > Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did not really 'get' OOP until after learning Python. The > > relatively simple but powerful user class model made more sense to > > me than C++. So introducing someone to Python, where OOP is a > > choic

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Jp Calderone
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:38:04 -0500, Adam DePrince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 10:26, Jp Calderone wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:18:21 GMT, Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Antoon Pardon wrote: > > > > Op 2004-12-15, Fredrik Lundh schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Adam DePrince
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:23, jfj wrote: > Yo. > > Why can't we __setitem__ for tuples? > The way I see it is that if we enable __setitem__ for tuples there > doesn't seem to be any performance penalty if the users don't use it > (aka, python performance independent of tuple mutability). > > On t

Re: How do I convert characters into integers?

2004-12-15 Thread Adam DePrince
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 18:18, Paul Rubin wrote: > Markus Zeindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Now I get every character with a loop: > > > > buffer = "" > > for i in range(len(message)): > >ch = message[i-1:i] > > You mean > ch = message[i] > what you have does the wrong thing when i =

Re: NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Eric Pederson
> "Jive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> taunted: > > > Subject: NO REALLY > > > > Isn't there a comp.lang.flame or something? > Oh, my, don't you have BIG CAPS! Someone should wash them, thoroughly! Why don't you come up to my room, big boy. -DIRK [is that flaming enough?] -- http://mail.python.or

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Adam DePrince
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:23, jfj wrote: Yo. Why can't we __setitem__ for tuples? The way I see it is that if we enable __setitem__ for tuples there doesn't seem to be any performance penalty if the users don't use it (aka, python performance independent of tuple mutability). On the other ha

Efficient grep using Python?

2004-12-15 Thread Jane Austine
[Fredrik Lundh] >>> bdict = dict.fromkeys(open(bfile).readlines()) >>> >>> for line in open(afile): >>>if line not in bdict: >>>print line, >>> >>> [Tim Peters] >> Note that an open file is an iterable object, yielding the lines in >> the file. The "for" loop exploited that above, bu

Re: Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Robert Kern
Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: Fredrik Lundh wrote: how about: http://vpython.org/ hi, thanks, I didn't know about that. do you (or anyone else) have a recommendation for 2D type graphics? I like Kiva (but then, I also help develop it). The best place to get it right now is the SVN repository, but

Re: Zope side-by-side with Python 2.4

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
On Friday 03 December 2004 02:04 pm, Robert wrote: > If I have Python 2.4 installed and I want to install the latest stable > Zope, will Zope have problems or does Zope looks to its own setup and > not my install of Python 2.4? The latest version of Zope (2.7 or later) runs fine with Python 2.3 an

Re: Performance (pystone) of python 2.4 lower then python 2.3 ???

2004-12-15 Thread Dan
Skip Montanaro wrote: Dan> I also see an 8-10% speed decrease in 2.4 (I built) from 2.3.3 Dan> (shipped w/Fedora2) in the program I'm writing (best of 3 trials Dan> each). Memory use seems to be about the same. How do you how the compiler flags were the same if you didn't compile both

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread Andrew Dalke
Peter Hansen: > (Darn those Norwegians, influencing people's ideas of how a > name like Hansen ought to be spelled, grumble, grumble. And then there's my sister, a Nelson, who drove with friends of their's, the Olsons, to visit our aunt and uncle, the Larsons, and my grandmother, born a Hanson. S

Re: from string to raw string

2004-12-15 Thread Dan Perl
This is not what I meant. My posting was a judgement error. You are right though that my intuition was leading me to something like this. However, I didn't realize that it was not necessary for what I was doing. But this is very educational too. It made me look up string decode, encode, and

Re: ftp

2004-12-15 Thread Binu K S
Try retrbinary instead of retrlines in the original script (the one without write('\n')). retrlines fetches the file in ASCII mode and that must be altering the line terminations. On 15 Dec 2004 15:49:31 -0800, hawkmoon269 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to write a small ftp script that

Re: spawn* or exec* and fork, what should I use and how ?

2004-12-15 Thread Lingyun Yang
Peter Hansen wrote: Lingyun Yang wrote: I want to use python as a "shell like" program, and execute an external program in it( such as mv, cp, tar, gnuplot) os.execv("/bin/bash",("/usr/bin/gnuplot",'-c "gnuplot < plot.tmp"')) I would suggest checking out the "subprocess" module, new in Python 2.

Re: spawn* or exec* and fork, what should I use and how ?

2004-12-15 Thread Binu K S
exec calls will replace the script process with the new process. >From the execv documentation: "These functions all execute a new program, replacing the current process; they do not return. On Unix, the new executable is loaded into the current process, and will have the same process ID as the ca

Re: spawn* or exec* and fork, what should I use and how ?

2004-12-15 Thread Jp Calderone
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 03:00:45 GMT, Lingyun Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >I want to use python as a "shell like" program, > and execute an external program in it( such as mv, cp, tar, gnuplot) > I tried: > > os.execv("/bin/bash",("/usr/bin/gnuplot",'-c "gnuplot < plot.tmp"')) > > s

spawn* or exec* and fork, what should I use and how ?

2004-12-15 Thread Lingyun Yang
Hi, I want to use python as a "shell like" program, and execute an external program in it( such as mv, cp, tar, gnuplot) I tried: os.execv("/bin/bash",("/usr/bin/gnuplot",'-c "gnuplot < plot.tmp"')) since it's in a for-loop, it should be executed many times, but It exits after the first time runn

Re: spawn* or exec* and fork, what should I use and how ?

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Lingyun Yang wrote: I want to use python as a "shell like" program, and execute an external program in it( such as mv, cp, tar, gnuplot) os.execv("/bin/bash",("/usr/bin/gnuplot",'-c "gnuplot < plot.tmp"')) I would suggest checking out the "subprocess" module, new in Python 2.4. It subsumes the f

Re: NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Brian van den Broek wrote: Peter Hansen said unto the world upon 2004-12-15 17:39: I could easily see this thread descending into a flame war in, oh, about another ten posts. That would be so freaky... Without a doubt that is the most ignorant and small-minded thought that ever has been, and ever

Unpacking Binary Data - not using struct module

2004-12-15 Thread Geoffrey
I am working on a file conversion project that reads data from a one file format, reformats in and writes in out to another. The data is records of informations - names address, account number,statistics. The numeric values in the original file are stored in what appears to be a "packed" data for

Re: Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Esmail Bonakdarian
Fredrik Lundh wrote: how about: http://vpython.org/ hi, thanks, I didn't know about that. do you (or anyone else) have a recommendation for 2D type graphics? Thanks, Esmail -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why are tuples immutable?

2004-12-15 Thread Jeff Shannon
Antoon Pardon wrote: Demanding that users of dictioanaries somehow turn their mutable objects into tuples when used as a key and back again when you retrieve the keys and need the object [...] But, you generally don't "retrieve" _keys_ from dicts. You *use* keys to retrieve *values* from a dict.

Re: Module question

2004-12-15 Thread Jeff Shannon
Mike Meyer wrote: Grumman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill Turczyn wrote: Does python have a module similiar to the perl Spreadsheet::WriteExcel In a pinch, you can output an HTML table, give the file an .xls extension, and Excel will read it just fine. Welll, someone pointed ou

Re: A beginner's problem...

2004-12-15 Thread DogWalker
"Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Amir Dekel wrote: > >> When I import a module I have wrote, and then I find bugs, it seems that >> I can't import it again after a fix it. It always shows the same >> problem. I try del module but it doesn't work. >> (

Re: Python IDE

2004-12-15 Thread limodou
Try NewEdit if you have time. http://wiki.wookpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/NewEdit Chris wrote: What IDE's do y'all recommend for Python? I'm using PythonWin atm, but I'd like something with more functionality. Chris -- I love python! My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: How do I convert characters into integers?

2004-12-15 Thread Scott David Daniels
Markus Zeindl wrote: Hello, I want to write a simple encrypter, but I've got a problem: How can I convert characters into integers? Check this out, you'll like it even more than ord/chr: import array def mangle(message): a = array.array('B') a.fromstring(message)

Re: Module question

2004-12-15 Thread Mike Meyer
Grumman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bill Turczyn wrote: >> Does python have a module similiar to the perl Spreadsheet::WriteExcel >> Thanks, >> Bill >> > In a pinch, you can output an HTML table, give the file an .xls > extension, and Excel will read it just fine. Welll, someone pointed out a t

Dejavu 1.2.6, a Python ORM

2004-12-15 Thread Robert Brewer
The Dejavu Object-Relational Mapper (version 1.2.6) is now available and in the public domain. Get it at svn://casadeamor.com/dejavu/trunk. Dejavu is an Object-Relational Mapper for Python applications. It is designed to provide the "Model" third of an MVC application. Dejavu avoids making decisio

ftp

2004-12-15 Thread hawkmoon269
I would like to write a small ftp script that I could use in place of DOS. So far I have this -- from ftplib import FTP server = 'xxx' username = 'xxx' password = 'xxx' file = 'xxx' ftp = FTP(server) ftp.login(username, password) ftp.retrlines('RETR ' + file, open('C:\My Documents\' + file, 'w'

Re: Module question

2004-12-15 Thread Grumman
Bill Turczyn wrote: Does python have a module similiar to the perl Spreadsheet::WriteExcel Thanks, Bill In a pinch, you can output an HTML table, give the file an .xls extension, and Excel will read it just fine. There's probably a better option in python (under win32, you could use win32com and

Re: NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Brian van den Broek
Peter Hansen said unto the world upon 2004-12-15 17:39: Martijn Faassen wrote: Jive wrote: Isn't there a comp.lang.flame or something? I've doublechecked, but I didn't see any significant flaming in this article (and I'm generally not very tolerant of it). My PSU posting was certainly not intend

Re: Module question

2004-12-15 Thread elbertlev
Goggle: keyword pyXLWriter - ported from Perl. Does not support newer exel files. F.e. if you create a table and write headers (names) they will be in the table as row 0. But it is fast and it works. Has a lot of examples. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

OmniORB(py) compared to ICE? (was: ANNOUNCE: Ice 2.0 released)

2004-12-15 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> "The Internet Communications Engine (Ice) is a modern alternative to > object middleware such as CORBAâ or COM/DCOM/COM+. Ice is easy to learn, > yet provides a powerful network infrastructure for demanding technical > applications. Ice shines where technologies such as SOAP or XML-RPC are >

Re: NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jive wrote: Isn't there a comp.lang.flame or something? I've doublechecked, but I didn't see any significant flaming in this article (and I'm generally not very tolerant of it). My PSU posting was certainly not intended as a flame, in case that was misinterpreted. What'd I

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Peter Hansen wrote: Well, in any case, thanks for setting the record straight, Martjin. That of course also happens to me once every while. I can take care of myself though -- Dijkstra however needs an advocate for the correct spelling of his name in this earthly realm. The

Re: How can i send 8-bit data or binary data with pyserial?

2004-12-15 Thread Scott David Daniels
Fredrik Lundh wrote: "ouz as" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i have an electronic module which only understand binary data. i use python pyserial. for example the module starts when 00100 8-bit binary data sent.but ... in computers, bits are combined into bytes (or longer machine words). the strin

Re: OmniORB(py) compared to ICE? (was: ANNOUNCE: Ice 2.0 released)

2004-12-15 Thread Joshua Adam Ginsberg
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 22:48 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > "The Internet Communications Engine (Ice) is a modern alternative to > > object middleware such as CORBAâ or COM/DCOM/COM+. Ice is easy to learn, > > yet provides a powerful network infrastructure for demanding technical > > applicati

Re: I DECLARE THIS THREAD FINISHED

2004-12-15 Thread Paul McGuire
"Jive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Everyone keep moving. There is nothing to see here. Move along. > You wish! If only ending a thread were that easy - we wouldn't be hearing about "Why is Python slower than Java?" anymore! But I agree with Martijn (note spell

Re: from string to raw string

2004-12-15 Thread Scott David Daniels
Dan Perl wrote: Is there a way to convert a regular string to a raw string so that one could get from '\bblah' to r'\bblah' other than parsing the string and modifying the escapes? Assuming you might mean something else, that something else might be: s = r'no_tab_\t_here' len(s.split()) ==

Re: subprocess vs. proctools

2004-12-15 Thread Keith Dart
Nick Craig-Wood wrote: There are many ways for a program to fail (non-zero exit codes) but only one way for it to succeed (zero exit code). Therefore rc should be 0 for success. Exactly. And as a convenience the ExitStatus object of proctools handles that for you. As a general rule, I believe Py

Re: NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jive wrote: Isn't there a comp.lang.flame or something? I've doublechecked, but I didn't see any significant flaming in this article (and I'm generally not very tolerant of it). My PSU posting was certainly not intended as a flame, in case that was misinterpreted. What'd I miss? Regards, Martijn

Re: AsmL/Python relationship? Anyone using AsmL? What for?

2004-12-15 Thread Michel Claveau - abstraction méta-galactique non triviale en fuite perpétuelle.
Hi ! There are many ideas with same type than Python. Indentation, set, sequences (list), parallel (zip), sequential (iter), map (dictionnary), I had see : Set comprehension :A = {1..20} C = {i | i in A where 2 * i in A} Map comprehension (god) etc. etc. --

Re: Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > Basically, I would like to be able to create some basic animations > where I can help visualize various sorting algorithms (for instance > http://ciips.ee.uwa.edu.au/~morris/Year2/PLDS210/sorting.html#insert_anim) > or graph searches (coloring nodes as each gets visited

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Peter Hansen wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Paul McGuire wrote: "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message Yikes! (or better, "Jikes!" or even "Yijkes!"?) - my bad. And he was on faculty at UT right here in Austin, too. It's a very common mistake I've seen so often that for a while I

Re: while 1 vs while True

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Reedy
> >>> import pdb > >>> pdb.x = "Darn writeable module dictionaries" > >>> from pdb import x > >>> x > >>>'Darn writeable module dictionaries' > If Python really does behave that way, that bug should be fixed > immediately. The fact that the attributes of Python modules, like those of classes (a

Is Python good for graphics?

2004-12-15 Thread Esmail Bonakdarian
First of all, I *really* like Python ;-) I need some help with the graphical side of things. I would like to do some basic graphics with Python, but I am not sure what the best/most effective way for me to do what I want. Basically, I would like to be able to create some basic animations where I ca

Re: Performance (pystone) of python 2.4 lower then python 2.3 ???

2004-12-15 Thread Mark Asbach
Hi Lucas, > No,the reason that you see 2 times as many processors as really are > installed is the hyperthreading feature of the Xeon (see > http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/02/02/25/020225plxeon_1.html) > > I turned it off (in the BIOS). The machine I tested on has 2 (pysical) > proc

Re: getopt: Make argument mandatory

2004-12-15 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frans Englich wrote: >> > In my use of getopt.getopt, I would like to make a certain parameter >> > mandatory. >> >> Isn't a *mandatory option* a contradiction? Why don't you turn it into an >> argument? You already called it argument in the subject of your post. > > I p

Re: change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Fredrik Lundh wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How can a python, or even a .bat script modify the system PATH? It doesn't appear to be in the registry. did you look under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\Environment And see also this helpful recipe: http://aspn.activ

Re: Step by step: Compiling extensions with MS Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 - msvccompiler-patch.txt (0/1)

2004-12-15 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Martin Bless wrote: ... Two things first - not to forget: (1) In contrast to what Mike writes I had to use a different registry key (see step 9) Which is expected (even noted on the page), particularly if you have a different version of the SDKs. The keys in the patch were extracted from an E

RE: Dynamically passing variables to unittest

2004-12-15 Thread Tom Haddon
Great, works a treat. Thanks -Original Message- From: Jim Sizelove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dynamically passing variables to unittest Tom Haddon wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Yeah, you're right, the term "ConnectSt

Re: New versions breaking extensions, etc.

2004-12-15 Thread David Bolen
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can you elaborate? To me, that problem only originates from > the OS lack of support for deleting open files. If you could > delete a shared libary that is still in use (as you can on > Unix), the put the new version of the DLL in the place, (...) N

Re: A beginner's problem...

2004-12-15 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Amir Dekel wrote: > When I import a module I have wrote, and then I find bugs, it seems that > I can't import it again after a fix it. It always shows the same > problem. I try del module but it doesn't work. > (I use Python 2.4 with the ActivePython pack (PythonWin IDE)

Module question

2004-12-15 Thread Bill Turczyn
Does python have a module similiar to the perl Spreadsheet::WriteExcel Thanks, Bill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A beginner's problem...

2004-12-15 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Amir Dekel wrote: > Hello everyone, > > First, I have to say that Python is one of the coolest programing languages I > have seen. > And now for the problem (must be a silly one): > When I import a module I have wrote, and then I find bugs, it seems that I > can't import it ag

A beginner's problem...

2004-12-15 Thread Amir Dekel
Hello everyone, First, I have to say that Python is one of the coolest programing languages I have seen. And now for the problem (must be a silly one): When I import a module I have wrote, and then I find bugs, it seems that I can't import it again after a fix it. It always shows the same proble

Re: getopt: Make argument mandatory

2004-12-15 Thread Frans Englich
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 20:12, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frans Englich > > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > In my use of getopt.getopt, I would like to make a certain parameter > > mandatory. > > Isn't a *mandatory option* a contradiction? Why don't you turn it into

NO REALLY

2004-12-15 Thread Jive
Isn't there a comp.lang.flame or something? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE

2004-12-15 Thread fuzzylollipop
TruStudio for Eclipse is nice for those everything must be free socialists. ActiveState Komodo is probably the best commerical Python IDE and the ActiveState Python plugin for Visual Studio is great for those that do VS. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: getopt: Make argument mandatory

2004-12-15 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frans Englich wrote: > > Hello, > > In my use of getopt.getopt, I would like to make a certain parameter > mandatory. Isn't a *mandatory option* a contradiction? Why don't you turn it into an argument? You already called it argument in the subject of your post. Ciao,

Re: change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to write some kind of install script for my python app that > will add c:\cygwin\usr\bin to the system path. I don't want > to walk around to 50 PC's and twiddle through the GUI to: > > My Computer --> Control Panel --> System --> Advanced --> Environment > > >

Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Matthew Moss wrote: >> >>> data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']] >> >>> [e for l in data for e in l] >> ['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail'] > > Okay, I tried this in an interactive Python session and it works as > stated. My question is, why? How is the inte

Re: Dynamically passing variables to unittest

2004-12-15 Thread Jim Sizelove
Tom Haddon wrote: Hi Peter, Yeah, you're right, the term "ConnectString" is a little confusing. Perhaps I should change that. Here's a valid call to DB: conn=DB.DB('pg','test','localhost',5432,'test','test') In the context of this unittest, a valid syntax would be (except that this unittest would

Re: change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread Jason Tishler
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 06:43:35PM +, Jeff Lindholm wrote: > The only issue with this is you will have to reboot for it take > effect. The above is not quite true -- at least under NT/2000/XP. The reboot is only necessary for the SCM (and services) to notice the change. Otherwise, you just ne

Re: lies about OOP

2004-12-15 Thread H. S. Lahman
Responding to Beliavsky... Les Hatton "Does OO sync with the way we think?", IEEE Software, 15(3), p.46-54 "This paper argues from real data that OO based systems written in C++ appear to increase the cost of fixing defects significantly when compared with systems written in either C or Pascal. It

Re: Efficient grep using Python?

2004-12-15 Thread Tim Peters
[Fredrik Lundh] >>> bdict = dict.fromkeys(open(bfile).readlines()) >>> >>> for line in open(afile): >>>if line not in bdict: >>>print line, >>> >>> [Tim Peters] >> Note that an open file is an iterable object, yielding the lines in >> the file. The "for" loop exploited that above, bu

Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 15)

2004-12-15 Thread Cameron Laird
QOTW: "[Python demands more thought in optimization, because i]n other languages, by the time you get the bloody thing working it's time to ship, and you don't have to bother worrying about making it optimal." -- Simon Brunning "One of the best features of c.l.py is how questions phrased in the m

Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-15 Thread Matthew Moss
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > >>> data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']] > >>> [e for l in data for e in l] > ['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail'] Okay, I tried this in an interactive Python session and it works as stated. My question is, why? How is the interpre

Re: Small Problem P 2.4 (line>2048 Bytes)

2004-12-15 Thread Michel Claveau - abstraction méta-galactique non triviale en fuite perpétuelle.
Hi ! You are a very good soothsayer (*) ! With # -*- coding: cp-1252 -*-it's bugging With # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- it's OK ! (*) soothsayer is the masculine of pythoniss (good english term ?) -- Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

Re: Fill a Server

2004-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think you solved it Fredrik. The first ten folders looked like this: D:\0\1\2\3\4\5\6\7\8\9 22 Chars long. The rest looked like this: \10\11\12\13\82\83\84 ~ 222 CHars long. Subdir 84 had one file in it named XXX.bat That file broke the 255 limit, then subdir 85 wasn't created

Re: change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread Jeff Lindholm
> > I want to write some kind of install script for my python app that > will add c:\cygwin\usr\bin to the system path. I don't want > to walk around to 50 PC's and twiddle through the GUI to: > > My Computer --> Control Panel --> System --> Advanced --> Environment > > > How can a python, or even

Re: Performance (pystone) of python 2.4 lower then python 2.3 ???

2004-12-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
Dan> I also see an 8-10% speed decrease in 2.4 (I built) from 2.3.3 Dan> (shipped w/Fedora2) in the program I'm writing (best of 3 trials Dan> each). Memory use seems to be about the same. How do you how the compiler flags were the same if you didn't compile both versions yourself?

Re: change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread Harlin Seritt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [Windows XP Pro, cygwin python 2.4, *nix hacker, windows newbie] > > I want to write some kind of install script for my python app that > will add c:\cygwin\usr\bin to the system path. I don't want > to walk around to 50 PC's and twiddle through the GUI to: > > My Com

change windows system path from cygwin python?

2004-12-15 Thread gry
[Windows XP Pro, cygwin python 2.4, *nix hacker, windows newbie] I want to write some kind of install script for my python app that will add c:\cygwin\usr\bin to the system path. I don't want to walk around to 50 PC's and twiddle through the GUI to: My Computer --> Control Panel --> System --> A

Multithreading tkinter question

2004-12-15 Thread Mark English
Is there a safe way to run tkinter in a multithreaded app where the mainloop runs in a background thread ? Here's some test code demonstrating the problem. I'm running Python2.4 under Windows 2000. Code snip starts- from Tkinter import * def GetTkinterThread(): im

Re: Python IDE

2004-12-15 Thread Grig
I use PyDev (pydev.sf.net), an Eclipse plug-in. I may be biased, since I contributed some code to the project, but it works great for me. An article talking about using PyDev and ant within Eclipse is available at http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecant/?ca=drs-tp2604. Grig Chris w

Re: Fill a Server

2004-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are correct Peter, the exception read something like this: "Folder 85 not found." I am paraphrasing, but that is the crux of the error. It takes about an hour to produce the error so if you want an exact quote from the exception, let me know and give me awhile. I looked through the nested dir

Re: Efficient grep using Python?

2004-12-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Tim Peters wrote: >> bdict = dict.fromkeys(open(bfile).readlines()) >> >> for line in open(afile): >>if line not in bdict: >>print line, >> >> > > Note that an open file is an iterable object, yielding the lines in > the file. The "for" loop exploited that above, but fromkeys() can >

Re: Fill a Server

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip code involving copyfile:] shutil.copyfile(os.path.join(root, f), The problem with this is that it only copies about 35 GB/hour. I would like to copy at least 100 GB/hour... more if possible. I have tried to copy from the IDE CD drive to the SATA array with the same r

RE: Dynamically passing variables to unittest

2004-12-15 Thread Tom Haddon
Hi Peter, Yeah, you're right, the term "ConnectString" is a little confusing. Perhaps I should change that. Here's a valid call to DB: conn=DB.DB('pg','test','localhost',5432,'test','test') In the context of this unittest, a valid syntax would be (except that this unittest would fail, as this

Fill a Server

2004-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this is a silly task, but I have to do it. I have to fill a file server (1 TB SATA RAID Array) with files. I wrote a Python script to do this, but it's a bit slow... here it is: import shutil import os import sys import time src = "G:" des = "C:scratch" os.chdir(src) try: for x in xrange

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