I don't see how this immediately helps the OP, who wants a *literal*
expression that automatically invokes the translation machinery as
well as the interpolation machinery.
Actually, no, I do not want the expression to be automatically
translated at compile time. It should be translated at run
On 17/09/18 19:42, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> That's why I would like to see a parameter that can be passed to
> the f-string.
This doesn't make sense to me.
If I get a request in English, I need to return English.
If I get a request in French, I need to return French.
# At the start of
On 17/09/18 20:10, Eric V. Smith wrote:
See also PEP 501, which could be used for i18n.
My first idea was to propose a t-string (for translatable string).
Cheers,
Hans
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:06:28 -0400
"Franklin? Lee"
wrote:
> Monty Python had the goal of making people laugh, while python-ideas
> has the goal of improving Python. With those priorities, we can have
> fun, but not at the expense of potential contributions and
> contributors.
You are right.
Rega
Mike Miller writes:
> A decent mail program can thread discussions and ignore the boring
> ones.
+100, but realistically, people aren't going to change their MUAs,
especially on handhelds. The advantage of something like Discourse is
that the server side controls the UX, and that's what people
Hello Everyone,
Please excuse my being late for properly responding to the last thread
on "Pattern Matching Syntax" [1]. As Robert Roskam has already
pointed out at the beginning of that thread, there has been much
previous discussion about adding pattern matching to Python, and
several
Needless to say it's interesting to see what others language have (pros and
cons), I'm thinking about Scala for example (but I'm sure perl can show us
a long list of pros and cons).
Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 13:38, Tobias Kohn a écrit :
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Please excuse my being late for properl
As said 100 times in the list, email is powerful, configurable but needs a
lot of configuration (especially hard on mobile) and has a lot of rules
(don't top post, reply to the list, don't html, wait, html is alright)
whereas a web based alternative is easier to grasp (more modern) but adds
more ab
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:49 AM Robert Vanden Eynde
wrote:
> About moderation, what's the problem on the list ?
>
The biggest moderation issue I see with mailing lists is the inability to
lock threads and delete posts (i.e. those that are spam or a Code of
Conduct violation). Both of those are
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 04:48:18PM +0200, Robert Vanden Eynde
wrote:
> As said 100 times in the list, email is powerful, configurable but needs a
> lot of configuration (especially hard on mobile) and has a lot of rules
> (don't top post, reply to the list, don't html, wait, html is alright)
> wh
> I propose Python register a trial of Stack Overflow Teams. Stack Overflow
Teams is essentially your own private Stack Overflow. (I will address the
private part later.) Proposals would be questions and additions or
criticism would be answers. You can express your support or dissent of a
proposal
PEP 581 proposes the migration of bug tracking to GitHub issues. I have
done a project to collect all issues in https://bugs.python.org. I have
parsed the HTML data and migrated the issues to GitLab along with labels
for issues and comments which is pretty much similar to GitHub issues. I
have
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:02 AM Jonathan Goble wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:49 AM Robert Vanden Eynde
> wrote:
>>
>> About moderation, what's the problem on the list ?
>
>
> The biggest moderation issue I see with mailing lists is the inability to
> lock threads and delete posts (i.e.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:00 PM Franklin? Lee
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:02 AM Jonathan Goble
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:49 AM Robert Vanden Eynde <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> About moderation, what's the problem on the list ?
> >
> >
> > The biggest moderat
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:37 PM Jonathan Goble wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 2:00 PM Franklin? Lee
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:02 AM Jonathan Goble wrote:
>> >
>> > The biggest moderation issue I see with mailing lists is the inability to
>> > lock threads and delete posts (i.
On 09/18/2018 12:05 PM, Franklin? Lee wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:37 PM Jonathan Goble wrote:
Perhaps not, but part of that might be because stopping an active
>> discussion on a mailing list can be hard to do, so one might not even
>> try. Some discussions, I suspect, may have gone on i
> But there's no evidence that such tools would help. Software
> enforcement powers are only necessary if verbal enforcement isn't
> enough. We need the current moderators (or just Brett) to say whether
> they feel it isn't enough.
These systems work radically differently. You don’t get notificat
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 11:02 -0400, Jonathan Goble wrote:
> The biggest moderation issue I see with mailing lists is the
> inability to lock threads
That actually wouldn't be hard to implement in a mailing list software
as a semi-automatic moderation feature...
--
Jan Claeys
Since 1972, there have been hundreds of reinventions of a means of carying
on electronic conversations intended to be "better than email." The one
thing they all have in common is that they are vastly worse than email.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 6:04 PM Jan Claeys wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 11:02
> Is that really an issue here? I personally haven't seen threads where
> Brett tried to stop an active discussion, but people ignored him and
> kept fighting.
Not personally with Brett, but I have seen multiple people try to stop the
“reword or remove beautiful is better than ugly in Zen of Pytho
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:07 -0400, David Mertz wrote:
> Since 1972, there have been hundreds of reinventions of a means of
> carying on electronic conversations intended to be "better than
> email." The one thing they all have in common is that they are vastly
> worse than email.
I don't 100% agre
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:21 AM James Lu wrote:
>
> Not personally with Brett, but I have seen multiple people try to stop the
> “reword or remove beautiful is better than ugly in Zen of Python.” The
> discussion was going in circles and evolved into attacking each other’s use
> of logical fal
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:43 AM Jan Claeys wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:07 -0400, David Mertz wrote:
> > Since 1972, there have been hundreds of reinventions of a means of
> > carying on electronic conversations intended to be "better than
> > email." The one thing they all have in common
It would be nice if there was a guide on using Python-ideas and writing PEPs.
It would make it less obscure.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:57 PM Chris Angelico wrote:
> For any proposal that actually has currency, this system does work
The trouble is the ambiguity of knowing what "actually has currency"
is and how to get it. PEP 1 states, "Following a discussion on
python-ideas, the proposal should be submi
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:05 AM James Lu wrote:
>
> It would be nice if there was a guide on using Python-ideas and writing PEPs.
> It would make it less obscure.
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0001/
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:17 AM Michael Selik wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:57 P
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 8:43 PM Jan Claeys wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:07 -0400, David Mertz wrote:
> > Since 1972, there have been hundreds of reinventions of a means of
> > carying on electronic conversations intended to be "better than
> > email." The one thing they all have in common is t
On 9/18/18 11:02 AM, Jonathan Goble wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:49 AM Robert Vanden Eynde
> mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> About moderation, what's the problem on the list ?
>
>
> The biggest moderation issue I see with mailing lists is the inability
> to lock threads and dele
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:21 PM James Lu wrote:
>
> > Is that really an issue here? I personally haven't seen threads where
> > Brett tried to stop an active discussion, but people ignored him and
> > kept fighting.
> Not personally with Brett, but I have seen multiple people try to stop the
> “r
On 18/09/2018 08:59, Hans Polak wrote:
>
>>> I don't see how this immediately helps the OP, who wants a *literal*
>>> expression that automatically invokes the translation machinery as
>>> well as the interpolation machinery.
> Actually, no, I do not want the expression to be automatically
> t
Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 13:39, Tobias Kohn a écrit :
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Please excuse my being late for properly responding to the last thread on
> "Pattern Matching Syntax" [1]. As Robert Roskam has already pointed out at
> the beginning of that thread, there has been much previous discussio
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 3:55 PM Steve Barnes wrote:
> Surely the simpler solution is to specify in I18n any items within
> un-escaped {} pairs is excluded from the translation, lookups, etc., and
> that translation needs to take place, also leaving the {} content alone,
> before f string processin
> How about this: Have a script that runs over your code, looking for
> "translatable f-strings":
>
> _(f'Hi {user}')
>
> and replaces them with actually-translatable strings:
>
> _('Hi %s') % (user,)
> _('Hi {user}').format(user=user)
>
> Take your pick of which way you want to spell it. Eit
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:52 PM Anders Hovmöller wrote:
>
>
> > How about this: Have a script that runs over your code, looking for
> > "translatable f-strings":
> >
> > _(f'Hi {user}')
> >
> > and replaces them with actually-translatable strings:
> >
> > _('Hi %s') % (user,)
> > _('Hi {user}').fo
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