Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/11/18 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > While I'm happy that Barry has automated his part to a high degree, > my part is, unfortunately, much less automated. I could personally > automate the build process a bit more, but part of it is also testing > of the installers, which is manual.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Michael Foord
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > While I'm happy that Barry has automated his part to a high degree, > my part is, unfortunately, much less automated. I could personally > automate the build process a bit more, but part of it is also testing > of the installers, which is manual. Maybe you could dele

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Michael Foord writes: > Installer tests can definitely be automated, and there is also a Python > API to the virtualbox VM. I wonder if it would be possible to automate > testing all the installers in various scenarios - each running > simultaneously in a VM. Now that would be an impressiv

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 18, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Christian Heimes wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: Actually, I've wanted to do timed releases, though I think monthly is unrealistic. Maybe every two months is about the right time frame. Timed releases are nice because e

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 18, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: Barry Warsaw schrieb: On Nov 18, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Christian Heimes wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin suggests, and I agree, that we should release P

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: From my point of view bi-monthly release are too much. For a ?.?.1 release two months are fine because several issues are found by 3rd party authors. But after that a release every quarter is suffi

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Martin, maybe we can help you with the installers testing. Thanks for the offer. See my other message, though - this is not the point. If everything goes well, offloading testing just means that I have to wait some time for the testers to come back, and do other stuff meanwhile. For the majorit

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Installer tests can definitely be automated, and there is also a Python > API to the virtualbox VM. I wonder if it would be possible to automate > testing all the installers in various scenarios - each running > simultaneously in a VM. I do use VMs, yes. However, they don't run on my workstation

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Martin, I'm keen on figuring out a way to reduce your workload, and also > to coordinate releases better between us. I /think/ with timed releases > I can tag a little early and give you something to work on so that the > actual release is a matter of fiddling web pages and sending an > announce

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Martin, I'm keen on figuring out a way to reduce your workload, and also to coordinate releases better between us. I /think/ with timed releases I can tag a little early and give you something

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> In which case why not just hold the release until all installers are > available? That is how Anthony Baxter handled things, indeed, and I would appreciate if we would return to that procedure. > Or are the complainers Python developers who know what goes on behind > the scenes? No - typicall

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I will also try to get up early to do the release before my work day > starts, to better coordinate with Euro time. So expect me on > #python-dev tomorrow (my morning). > > Will that work for you? If you delay the announcement until the binaries are ready, you should feel free to work on it wh

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] 2.6.1 and 3.0

2008-11-19 Thread Terry Reedy
Barry Warsaw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Let's try this for 3.0rc4 then. The current release is rc2. Skipping rc3 would confuse people'-) ___ Python-Dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt