Re: [Python-Dev] [Doc-SIG] that library reference, again

2006-01-07 Thread Fredrik Lundh
M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > I haven't followed the thread, so many I'm repeating things. > > Has anyone considered using e.g. MediaWiki (the wiki used for > Wikipedia) for Python documentation ? > > I'm asking because this wiki has proven to be ideally suited > for creating complex documentation tasks

[Python-Dev] ConfigParser to save with order

2006-01-07 Thread Facundo Batista
ConfigParser saves the data in a not-predefined order. This is because it keeps, internally, the information in dictionaries. I opened a patch in SF 1399309 that orders the info to be saved in the file through the ConfigParser write() method. This patch does not let the user to specify the order,

[Python-Dev] Checking in a broken test was: Re: [Python-checkins] r41940 - python/trunk/Lib/test/test_compiler.py

2006-01-07 Thread Neal Norwitz
[moving to python-dev] > On 1/7/06, Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it is not the test that's broken... it's compiler. [In reference to: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkins/2006-January/048715.html] In the past, we haven't checked in tests which are known to

[Python-Dev] some interesting readings

2006-01-07 Thread Samuele Pedroni
because I was reminded of them recently, because they may be useful landmarks in the prospective of future discussions, because expanding one's understanding of the problem/solution space of language design is quite a good thing if one is interested in such things... 1) Gilad Bracha. Pluggable T

Re: [Python-Dev] Checking in a broken test was: Re: [Python-checkins] r41940 - python/trunk/Lib/test/test_compiler.py

2006-01-07 Thread Tim Peters
[Neal Norwitz] > ... > In the past, we haven't checked in tests which are known to be broken. It's an absolute rule that you never check in a change (whether a test or anything else) that causes ``regretst.py -uall`` to fail. Even if it passes on your development box, but fails on someone else's

Re: [Python-Dev] Checking in a broken test was: Re: [Python-checkins] r41940 - python/trunk/Lib/test/test_compiler.py

2006-01-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/7/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm proposing something like add two files to Lib/test: > outstanding_bugs.py and outstanding_crashes.py. Both would be normal > test files with info about the bug report and the code that causes > problems. I like this approach. regrtest.py wo

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler warnings for 64-bit portability problems

2006-01-07 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 1/6/06, von Löwis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just found that the intel compiler (icc 9.0) > also supports compiler warnings for portability > problems. Cool. Thanks for the info. It would be nice if Intel would provide Python developers with a permanent icc license for Python. Can

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler warnings for 64-bit portability problems

2006-01-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/7/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. Thanks for the info. It would be nice if Intel would provide > Python developers with a permanent icc license for Python. Can anyone > help with that? I'll try. A dutch friend from long ago (CWI) is now working for Intel's compiler grou

Re: [Python-Dev] ConfigParser to save with order

2006-01-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
I think it's moot unless you also preserve comments. Ideally would be something that prserved everything (ordering, blank lines, comments etc.) from how it was read in. Modifying a value should keep its position. Adding a value should add it to the end of the section it's in (unless there are cases

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft proposal: Implicit self in Python 3.0

2006-01-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/6/06, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then simply reject the PEP and the discussion can be stopped on > comp.lang.python too. Only in the most severe cases does it make sense to create a PEP specifically to be rejected. > Or why do you think it should be discussed there > again and

Re: [Python-Dev] some interesting readings

2006-01-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
Samuele Pedroni wrote: > because I was reminded of them recently, because they may be useful > landmarks in the prospective of future discussions, because expanding > one's understanding of the problem/solution space of language design > is quite a good thing if one is interested in such things...

Re: [Python-Dev] some interesting readings

2006-01-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:01 PM 1/8/2006 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >Samuele Pedroni wrote: > > 2) > > http://homepages.cwi.nl/~ralf/OOHaskell/ > > state of the art experiment on trying to reconcile object orientation, > > type inference and as much as possible expressiveness > > > > PS: I think 1 is much more relevan