[Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Tal Einat
Context: I've been awarded a grant by the PSF to fix or replace my old MacBook Pro which recently broke, which I use mostly for developing Python. I'm considering whether to buy a Mac Mini (old, used) instead of fixing the MacBook, which would also have the advantage of being able to be on 24/7 and

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Matt Billenstein
More builders is good imo. I run the other osx builder on a previous gen macbook pro, I'll send you the script I use to set it up if that's helpful. m On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:31:25PM +0300, Tal Einat wrote: > Context: I've been awarded a grant by the PSF to fix or replace my old > MacBook Pro

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
On Aug 2, 2019, at 16:31, Tal Einat wrote: > So, would there be interest in another Mac in our fleet? Is it important > enough to be worth the (reasonable) effort? I would be willing to keep it > on an old version of macOS, or always the one-before-latest, if that would > help. Another macOS buil

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Ned Deily wrote: > I have ideas of providing a set of VM-based macOS buildbots for various > releases but that's not going to happen right away. MacOS is hard to run in virtualbox - do you have a better way of emulating it? It would be nice if these were s

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
On Aug 2, 2019, at 16:50, Matt Billenstein wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Ned Deily wrote: >> I have ideas of providing a set of VM-based macOS buildbots for various >> releases but that's not going to happen right away. > > MacOS is hard to run in virtualbox - do you have

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Tal Einat
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:02 AM Ned Deily wrote: > I 've had great success over the years running macOS VMs in VMWare Fusion. I totally depend on them on building python.org macOS installers. I have VMs for the most recent updates of all macOS releases back to 10.5 and can run them under Fusion o

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Tal Einat
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:42 PM Ned Deily wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2019, at 16:31, Tal Einat wrote: > > So, would there be interest in another Mac in our fleet? Is it important > > enough to be worth the (reasonable) effort? I would be willing to keep it > > on an old version of macOS, or always the

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
On Aug 2, 2019, at 17:22, Tal Einat wrote: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:02 AM Ned Deily wrote: > > > I 've had great success over the years running macOS VMs in VMWare Fusion. > > I totally depend on them on building python.org macOS installers. I have > > VMs for the most recent updates of al

Re: [Python-buildbots] Need for another macOS builder for the buildbot fleet?

2019-08-02 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 12:29:18AM +0300, Tal Einat wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:42 PM Ned Deily wrote: > Ideally it would be doing all of the build on tmpfs or similar, both > for speed and to avoid degrading the SSD quickly. I'd definitely need > a nice chunk of RAM for that. > > Next ste