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There is no mechanism as the entire concept of a namespace package is
implemented in importlib.machinery.PathFinder itself and not the generic import
system (see
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/652bfdee9495dca241d48278742fe035b7a82bdb/Lib/importlib
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> I'm not sure where namespace packages are documented
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/import.html#namespace-packages
> I'm not at all sure what would happen if we have meta path finders A and B
> on sys.meta_path in that order, and A
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Essentially:
1. Check if parent is imported; if not then import (working your way all the
way back to the top if necessary)
2. Ask the sys.meta_path finders if they can ha
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The following module's have preexisting deprecations with no slated removal
version. Since so much of import is getting cleaned up in Python 3.12, these
should finally go as well so the APIs are consistent across Python.
- imp
- pkgutil
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> would you accept a PR that changes the changelog entry to contain the
> ".find_spec() not found; falling back to find_module()" message, for better
> search-ability?
Sure!
> Also, could you please explain how to migrate to f
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Much like the question about load_module(), replacing find_module() with
find_spec() can be helped with things like
importlib.util.spec_from_file_location() and .spec_from_loader()
(https://docs.python.org/3/library/importlib.html
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Darn, forgot about Windows when I hunted down all the warnings on macOS.
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> Has there been any resolution regarding `sortTestMethodsUsing`?
My suspicion is if the docs don't suggest there's something else then nothing
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The existing --with-lto argument could be extended to pass through a value to
select non-default lto compiler options:
CC=clang ./configure --with-lto=thin
This would allow default behavior to remain unchanged, while allowing those
that want to use thin
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Did you mean to link to a fork, Irit?
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> After so long a reason came up that prevents the movement of tests of ctypes,
> lib2to3, and idlelib (which even continues in the same folder, only the
> nomenclature was changed)?
Time and energy.
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> Maybe this can be revisited now.
I've started the work already (albeit rather slowly 😄). Importlib has been
updated to prefer __spec__.parent of __package__ and warns when the values are
not equal. Next step will be to raise an ImportWarn
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So first, don't import from threads. It's non-deterministic as you have seen.
You should do all imports **before** you start running multi-threaded code if
multiple threads are going to access the
Second, tossing in pickle is just asking for more t
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Add Lukasz to get his opinion on this idea.
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> set __file__ (and __path__) on frozen modules?
See https://bugs.python.org/issue21736
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No progress as I've been swamped with higher-priority things and the bigger
discussion about how we want to manage the stdlib going forward has not started
yet (once again, not had the time to start
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branch 'main':
bpo-42135 Correct version slated for importlib.find_loader removal (GH-28312)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/9f93018b69d72cb48d3444554261ae
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New changeset a390bb6d66027517498e75b6b91a91be5f136d28 by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.10':
bpo-42135 Correct version slated for importlib.find_loader removal (GH-28312)
(GH-28321)
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The proposed fix seems to be the right one based on my reading of the code.
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zipimport.zipimporter.find_spec() when the zip file is missing and the internal
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I decided that find_spec() saying something wasn't available in a finder made
sense even though it was because a zip file no longer existed as the loader
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Should pro
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a self-contained CPython build where there is no concept of a file location on
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> What benefit would be gained?
The ABCs are broader than what the import system actually requires due to their
helper methods. So for typing purposes they are actually not a perfect fit.
> That should probably be a separate issue/PR in either case.
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> The spec identifies how a module should be loaded (or how it was loaded and
> should be reloaded). We should be careful to preserve that identify and not
> invite uses to modify the spec after (or while) the module is loaded.
But they may want to
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`Modules/Setup` is currently incomplete/broken. Some things are completely
missing from it, while others won't work if you uncomment them in the file.
When trying to compile a completely static CPython interpreter I ran into the
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Status is now:
- math/cmath conflict with a build rule in Makefile.pre.in
- _dbm needs more logic/comments (at least on macOS)
- nis needs more logic/comments (at least on macOS)
And the following modules are completely missing from the file:
- _bz2
- _ctypes
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It's an interesting question. Probably should add the new APIs. As for dropping
the old ones, we would have to check if we have been raising deprecation
warnings as appropriate or if it's just a documenta
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This was taken care of by https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/29049/.
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bpo-45548: Make `Modules/Setup` easier to read (GH-29143)
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> One thing I would strongly suggest for consistent terminology: Make
> "iterator" mean an object that has both "__next()__" and "__iter()__".
The point of this issue, though, is to not make that claim as it's in
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You didn't specify the path to search in to find `a`.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/importlib.html#importlib.machinery.PathFinder.find_spec
says that PathFinder only has class methods, which means find_spec() won't
know where 'namespace
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create_module() being empty is on purpose:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/importlib.html#importlib.abc.Loader.create_module
. You only define create_module() if you need a specific type of object for
the module instance
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> I am curious, what is `fullname` supposed to mean then? "full" in what sense?
You can still specify the full name of the module you're trying to import, but
you also need to pass in the location information for that module.
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The full name argument approach comes from PEP 302.
But you want the full name as you are otherwise missing potentially key
information for the finder. For instance, if you manipulate __path__, then it's
just some random directory you're searchi
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> Could Brett or you please add those notes back ? There's no other place
where such details are documented.
It really depends on what "details" you're referring to. Most of what I removed
were things like "Module by "
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> Wouldn't a nicer resolution for this be to change `iter`
Unfortunately that isn't backwards-compatible. Some people may explicitly want
their iterators to not be iterables to guarantee that people who want an
iterator get a fresh/new one inste
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FYI the long-term plan is to deprecate pkgutil, so I would use newer APIs as
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> Is traditional cross-compiling work still useful these days anyway?
Yes for things like WebAssembly where there is no equivalent of an emulated CPU
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> I'd love it if we could make this happen for Python 3.11. What can I do to
> help, e.g. would it be helpful if I drafted a PEP?
A PEP isn't necessarily required right now as
https://discuss.python.org/t/how-do-we-want-to-manage-additions
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> Hopefully tomli being less than a year old should not be a blocker, after
> all, TOML v1.0.0 is itself less than a year old.
It's actually rather important as the semantics of how things work will
effectively be locked in once a module is added to
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required by CPython (GH-29170)
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inconsistently required by CPython (GH-29170) (GH-29650)
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LLVM considers `was32-wasi` an alias for `wasm32-unknown-wasi`. Verified on the
WebAssembly Discover server at
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totally ignorant question based on
https://github.com/WebAssembly/wasi-sdk#notes-for-autoconf mentioning
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