anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Memory control over the stuff that Python creates is a practical feature that
compensates OS disability for tracking memory usage. If all Python scripts
could measure their memory usage, we could see more memory effective and
adaptive programs around
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
Weird bug. Attached are two files: wow.py and wy.py
When wow.py is executed - it fails with single ImportError.
But when wy.py is executed (which is a simple "import wow" statement) it fails
with one ImportError and TypeError
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...one ImportError and *two* TypeError exceptions.
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>py wy.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "wy.py", line 1, in
import wow
File "E:\scons\wow.py", line 12, in
import fail
ImportError: No module named fail
Error in atexit._run_exitfuncs:
Traceback (most recen
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But why _Cleanup is not None when wow.py is executed standalone?
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http://docs.python.org/3/library/binascii
- binascii.hexlify(data)
+ binascii.hexlify(bytes)
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Soo..
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New submission from anatoly techtonik:
The way to override defaults for setup.py commands is not documented. For
example, to change to name of build and dist dirs from setup.py, the following
entry should be added to setup parameters:
options={
'build': {'build_ba
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
In Python 2 there was no 'binary data' type - everything was a string. Now we
have string, str, bytearray, array, list of ints. If hexlify is not accepting
anything except bytes, it is better be explicit.
When porting code from Python 2 the ar
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Fact no.1: When people use docs as a reference, they don't read top notes.
Face no.2:
This is not explicit:
binascii.hexlify(data)
This is:
binascii.hexlify(bytes)
I understand that you like the wording in description, but can't understand
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The fact that array.array, bytearray and memoryview are also accepted is a
surprise for me. It will help if Python docs contained a definition of what can
be considered 'binary data' and link this term from hexlify description to this
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
This is not repeatable in Python 3. Is it possible to fix it for Python 2 as
well?
Is it possible to postpone registration until the import is finished
successfully? Or at least give atexit handler a chance to run before global
variable stack is purged
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
Currently, when interpreter is launched it returns immediately to parent
process without waiting to read the entrypoint script. This causes problem when
you need to remove this script after executing.
Is it possible to delay return to child process until
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The documentation should be fixed then:
http://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest#command-line-interface
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What about?
suite = unittest.makeSuite(SConfTestCase, 'test_')
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> The documentation already covers that "python -m unittest test_module"
> usage works only in 2.7+.
>
> "Changed in version 2.7: In earlier versions it was only possible to
> run individual test methods and not modules or c
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I don't know. I don't write C.
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I am not convinced that "won't fix" is the solution. If you're redirecting both
output streams to the same destination, you expect that the output will appear
in the final file exactly as it appears on the screen.
tag:wart
-
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Can Python detect when output file descriptor for both stderr and stdout
streams is the same and use the single buffer itself?
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I need to track issues the same way as you. You act as if the issue is resolved
while it is (or rather wasn't) until the last comment that Python is unable to
detect if stdout and stderr stream share the same output descriptor.
And your separation o
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The trace module helps to gather program flow statistics and see the
differences in patterns for large systems when program evolves. In particular,
components ported to Python 3 should still behave the same way on Python 2.
Right now the behavior under the
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
When a Python file is exec()uted, it magically fails to find names in imported
modules. The most magical thing in the examples below (b3.py in attach for
Python 3) is that first reference to wintypes.LONG in print statement is
actually successfull
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I'm 3rd to vote for reopening this issue to clarify documentation or to fix
(read below).
== Why it is important to fix
1. First personal user story. Until I saw the localstest.py I couldn't figure
out what all locals() definitions are tal
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The workaround with the best case is a magical knowledge, which many don't
possess and don't understand (I still don't get it). It's very tempting to ask
why passing explicit namespace is the best solution, but instead I'd like to
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
After a day of meditation I've come to the following definition for locals():
locals() return a dictionary that serves as a cache for current local symbol
table. This cache is updated every time locals() is called or when a trace
function is a
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Any progress on that? After a month I am inclined that this behavior should be
fixed, not only documented. The correct documentation is:
NOTE: The variable returned by locals() is sporadically updated by core
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I'd say this is a critical documentation bug that leads to head bang when you
try to figure out what does '*' in code means.
This bug is two fold:
1. Define a dedicated place in documentation for '*' operator with
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
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http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15733558/python-ordereddict-not-keeping-element-order
I wonder why OrderedDict accepts dict as parameter in a first place? OD is used
when order is important and if plain dict is supplied, the order is lost.
>&
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
I don't know if it is bug or feature. There are probably cases when order is
not important and OrderedDict is used, but I don't remember any.
Too bad Python doesn't have first class ordered mapping type, so that it could
report error if unor
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Is it possible to make strict OrderedDict an optional feature? Like `from
features import strict_ordered_dict'?
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Raymond Hettinger
wrote:
>
> In general, it is not possible for a hypothetical StrictOrderedDict to know
> whether its input was ordered or not.
Right. That's why it should not accept input that can onl
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
I always thought that subprocess is replacing all other methods of executing
external programs from Python and it is a preferred way. Perhaps I was not
attentive that people isolate:
os.system
os.spawn*
os.popen*
and
os.exec*
While subprocess
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tag:easy (meaning, please mark it as easy for OpenHatch robots)
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This is a follow up to issue #8855. Currently the security warning is
completely invisible from Python 2 docs
http://docs.python.org/2/library/shelve.html and is located under screen border
on Python 3 docs.
The proposal is to move warning out of the
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If file to be executed with os.execv on Windows is located in directory with
spaces, Python fails. This doesn't fail on Linux. To test, run:
testexecv.py spaced
testexecv.py is attached.
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The scope of warning is wrong. It is not a warning for open() call, and that's
why it is easy to miss.
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> Oh, please. It's big and red and directly below the open() description,
> how could you miss it?
>
I believe that it is pretty easy with mobile browser due to screen
constraints. Can yo
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
223 people + me out of 1422 disagree with you both.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/101268/hidden-features-of-python
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
To narrow the point of conflict, I say that argument unpacking *operators*
should have a prominent place in Python documentation that people can link
to. Current page
http://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/controlflow.html#unpacking-argument-lists is
about
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
> Georg Brandl added the comment:
>
> > I believe that it is pretty easy with mobile browser due to screen
> > constraints. Can you test this on your mobile devices?
>
> So
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
> Georg Brandl added the comment:
>
> > me[1]> open() function description is a wrong place for warning that is
> related to a whole module
> > you[2]> common, it is vi
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> > I having a snippet to fix that, should I open a new issue for patch?
>
> Please open a new issue.
>
Reference is welcome.
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http://docs.python.org/2/faq/gui.html - this page misses info about PySide.
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So, is deque a faster replacement for Queue.Queue or not?
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If only wiki had a theme like Sphinx docs.. But I agree that static FAQ look
dead compared to wiki or stackoverflow.
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New submission from anatoly techtonik:
Ctrl-D shortcut works to terminate session in Python 2 on Windows, and doesn't
work with Python 3.
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Well, it appears that installed IPython brought pyreadline, but I execute it in
standard Python shell.
I'd vote for this feature by default. Is that possible without readline?
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Here is the output of "py -v".
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It would be nice if Python supported some cross-platform standard for user
interfaces. It is rather annoying to use Ctrl-Z for Python in local window and
Ctrl-D for Python in remote console session (which is *nix of course).
It becomes even more annoying
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See http://www.python.org/dev/peps/, click Last-Modified.
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Cool. Even if it is automatically generated, it may worth to commit this file
anyway to get browsable HG history about PEP additions/removals.
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
I tested with 2.7 and 3.3, but this is true for any version.
If the bug is actual for Python 2.6, 3.1 and 3.2 why should I uncheck them?
Versions field description doesn't say that I should mark only latest change.
In addition, people (unlikely, but
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
I'll raise some points and then suggest how to fix that.
issue19060 it appeared that list of functions that subprocess replaces imbues
readers with uncertainty, because this list is not complete.
Current http://docs.python.org/devguide/documenting
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
I would like to know if the list is complete too. It would be
extremely awesome if it was complete.
This raises a side issue that there seems no guideline to write
unambiguous and complete documentation. I spammed the tracker with
this stuff in issue19121
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Terry J. Reedy wrote:
>
> If a sentence were added, I would simplify it to
> "It does not replace os.exec*." or perhaps "os.fork and os.exec*.".
I prefer list. It is easier to scan:
http://www.n
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It should be documented somehow then. At least in the field tooltip.
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os.execv() starts process in background on Windows. Because it inherits
stdin/stdout handlers from the process that launched Python interpreter, this
becomes a source of numerous weird bugs, from polluting the stdout stream of
parent to completely
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s/same behavior/same command/
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Richard Oudkerk wrote:
> See http://bugs.python.org/issue436259
I am not sure that I should see there. There is discussion of DOS,
which is not supported, also some complain about Windows execv
function, which depreca
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Richard Oudkerk wrote:
>
> _spawn*() and _exec*() are implemented by the C runtime library. spawn*()
> and execv() are (deprecated) aliases.
It is said that execv() is deprecated, but it is not said that it is
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Richard Oudkerk wrote:
>
> Richard Oudkerk added the comment:
>
> As I wrote in http://bugs.python.org/issue19066, on Windows execv() is
> equivalent to
>
> os.spawnv(os.P_NOWAIT, ...)
> os
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Hey. This ticket is about os.execv failing on spaced paths on Windows. It is
not a duplicate of issue19124.
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Richard Oudkerk wrote:
>
>> Don't we have such function already? I don't see the problem in
>> quoting the string.
>
> No one seems to know how to write such a quoting function.
Why escape qu
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Richard Oudkerk wrote:
>
> Richard Oudkerk added the comment:
>
>> Where did you get that info? MSDN is silent about that.
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/886kc0as(v=vs.90).aspx
>
> Read
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I can't use subprocess. These are official "business suite" scripts for Android
development from Google.
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A request to backport issue10730 commit to Python 2.x
Why? Google Client API uses mimetype module to detect file types when uploading
to Google Drive, and because SVG is missing, it can not be edited after
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I am not sure that policy defines anything related to datasets bundled with
Python. Even when try to adopt policy reading to this case, it doesn't look
like a feature, but a bug fix.
SVG is a registered MIME type http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/mimereg.html
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
I think we are talking about double standards.
Why the .xz and .txz are worthy including in 2.7.5 and .svg is not? See issue
#16316.
http://bugs.python.org/issue15207 will break a lot of this stuff anyway, so I
hope it will fix the issue
New submission from anatoly techtonik:
As a followup to issue19377 it would be nice if devguide contained a paragraph
to resolve the conflicting point provided by http://bugs.python.org/msg187373
and http://bugs.python.org/msg201141 arguments.
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Added issue19454 to settle this down.
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ast.dump needs an indent argument for pretty printing.
from pprint import pprint as pp
pp(ast.dump(node))
"Assign(targets=[Tuple(elts=[Name(id='d', ctx=Store()), Name(id='m',
ctx=Store())], ctx=Store())], value=Call(func=N
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How come that this CVE is still present in just released 2.7.6?
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Here is workaround, which is - patching distutils -
https://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/wiki/PatchingDistutils
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When packaging on Windows, sdist creates PKG-INFO, which is different in
linefeeds. It will be better if this is consistent between platforms.
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http://docs.python.org/2/library/ast.html
AST module doc is incomplete. To write node visitor, you need to know possible
types of parameters and expected values for every node type. They are different.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/1ee45eb6aab9
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It conflicts. =(
https://bitbucket.org/rirror/peps/pull-request/1/pep-0339txt-fix-link-to-zephyr-asdl-paper/diff
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New submission from anatoly techtonik:
http://docs.python.org/devguide/
it covers pretty much complicated stuff, which takes a lot of time to grasp.
Pictures help to save hours if not weeks. There needs to be some immediate
intro picture at the top of front page illustrating transformation of
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Thanks for the proposal, but you know perfectly that I am not a designer. I
don't believe that there are no talented people who find this ticket
interesting. You just need to add tag:easy to is (or allow others to do), so it
became visible to these p
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Implemented more advanced interface with filtering and tests - here -
https://bitbucket.org/techtonik/astdump/
Right now the output is not so detailed, but it may change if the need arises.
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anatoly techtonik added the comment:
Neither you nor docs answer the question when Assign node gets Tuple as
argument, when List and when Subscript.
While it is obvious to you, I personally don't know what a Subscript is. This
is the kind of stuff that I'd like to see
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
+1 for initiative, points that are nice to be addressed are below.
1. "Python 3.4 with modern idioms" - too Python-specific code raises the
barrier. I'd prefer simplicity and portability over modernism. Like how hard is
it to port the pars
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SO link serves a proof that a problem is actual. It is needed, because, for
example Brett doesn't think it is important.
2nd link is the same proof, and also an example of documentation wanted.
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In fact it may be the documentation that could be merged.
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It would be nice if reload() supported reloading of symbols imported with "from
module import ..." syntax. It is quite useful for development sessions, when
you patch and test your function on some set of unexpected input.
>>>
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PEP repository readme lacks information about how to send Python Enhancement
Proposal step-by-step.
1. hg clone https://bitbucket.org/rirror/peps
2. cd peps
3. # choose number
4. cp ??? pep-{{number}}.txt
5. # commit
6
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The "entrypoint" here means the point of entry for new Python Enhancement
Proposals. Christian, what you propose is a 4th order link for someone who
knows what PEPs are, and clones PEP repository to submit own proposal.
What I propose it t
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
> The process you are describing is not correct. In particular, the discussion
> happens before sending in a pull request.
Post the link to correct process into README.rst and then this issue can be
closed.
As for python-dev, I thought it is too o
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http://docs.python.org/2/library/string.html#template-strings
This class could be more useful with the following example:
>>> from string import Template
>>> t = Template('$who likes $what')
>>> who = 'tim'
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