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"What is standard in other linex and mac apps?"
-On Mac OS X 10.8.3 TextEdit I get the replacement behavior
-On Linux CentOS 6.4 gedit I get the replacement behavior
-On IDLE under the latest 3.4 pull I get the replacement behavior with Max OS X
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Ping!!!
I have not heard anything about this patch so I wanted to ping it to get more
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I was wondering does it make sense to commit this patch since it is similar to
http://bugs.python.org/issue14146 then put the issue in the pending state as we
wait for the TK/TCL fix? It seems more consistent to me since this issue is
basically the same
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I haver verified Roger's patch does indeed fix the problem on Linux CentOS 6.4
with IDLE 3.4.
The Linux situation is complex. Basically as I see it over the years pure X11
applications are becoming extinct and most developers either use GTK (for
GNOME)
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Patch does indeed apply and I get good results! The patch is well done and
provides a nice example on how to write unit tests.
+1 for making the commit from me
R. David Murray you used the patch command while I used "hg import --no-commit
mywork.patc
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Roger's patch works but the documentation has changed since he made the patch
back in 2011. So I patched the patch and hope this very simple patch will get
committed. I will work on a patch for 2.7 next.
Today I was teaching a student on how to use Python
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Continuing the IDLE unittest framework initiated in
http://bugs.python.org/issue15392.
A small unit test for IDLE FormatParagraph.py. This patch introduces a test
module named test_format_paragraph.py inside Lib/idlelib/idle_test, considering
the guidance in
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PING
It has been a month since Roger's last comment on the patch looking good, can
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Yes I have a Mac and I am glad to help, so I gave it a test run tonight. The
first thing I did was apply the patch then I ran idle from the console like so:
./python.exe Lib/idlelib/idle.py
For testing I used a simple print command to print to stderr
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Here is a uncompleted patch but works for the most part. I thought I would
post just in case somebody wanted to provide me comments on the general
direction of the patch. The naming might have to change but this follows Terry
Reedy's model of monkey pat
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Terry I am sorry the push didn't go smooth. I thought I had checked the patch
with 2.7 and 3.4 and it applied for me but maybe I missed something? For sure
I didn't check 3.3 but from here on out I will. Awhile ago I worked on a issue
to synch
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Terry,
Thank you for the feedback this helps me alot! I will work with Phil
Webster and will use his Text Widget and EditorWindow classes. Hopefully this
will help us converge on a strong unit test for FormatParagraph.py. Thanks for
the reminder about
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Bottom line I can't seem to get this patch to do anything for me. Before
the patch is applied IDLE seems to be handling warnings and exceptions just
fine in PyShell on the Mac. I get no crash and the output matches the normal
console. Here
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While working on a test case for Format Paragraph
(http://bugs.python.org/issue18226) I noted that format paragraph doesn't work
with comment blocks when a comment block is selected. The fix is very simple
by changing one line:
if first and last:
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Terry,
I was suffering from the classic chicken and egg problem so I was not sure
if the test case in http://bugs.python.org/issue18226 should include the small
code change. I will work with Phil Webster to get this small change added to
issue 18226 along
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As a suggestion I always use the command "make patchcheck" (before making the
patch) which catches the white space and tab problem plus it fixes other
things. Here is more information on patch check in the developer's guide.
http://docs.pyth
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This patch LGTM as well. I think it should be committed ASAP because the
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covers point 1.1) "Pressing the Home key moves the cursor before the >>>
prompt, which then makes the keyboard unresponsive."
This issues was fixed on Windows XP and Linux here
http://bugs.python.org/issue3851
On Mac OS X the "h
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This issue is still broken on Mac OS X.
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Ned,
Thanks for such a thorough comment this saved me lots of time now I don't
have to dig so deeply into the problem.
"After spending some time trying to understand how this all works or doesn't
across the various Tk's, I am coming to th
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Ezio,
I think modern editors are expected to have this sort of functionality built
into them [1]. XCode is simply amazing where it will pop up errors and quote
the C99 standard [2]. We don't expect IDLE to have all that functionality but
it seemed
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Would you prefer PyFlakes instead? Try to consider IDLE being for beginners
so they need all the help they can get. Advanced users can always turn the
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Applies to Python 3.4 in development and Python 2.7. I recently ran into a
similar conflict where I was overriding a environment variable with a command
line option and didn't realize it. I first checked the documentation and
noticed that it was not
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For Python 3.4 attached is a patch as suggested by Raymond Hettinger. My
suggestion is to put the patch in Doc/reference/datamodel.rst because if a user
searches google.com for __len__ this is the first link in the list. I think
this extra information is a
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Terry,
I would not miss the feature at all this is very old school Unix like and
most people find it confusing. At my job I tend to provide Python support to
my co-workers and have had many questions about it. In addition I think #13504
meta issue provides
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I used taleinat's patch as the start for a patch that works with 3.4. Lots of
code was changed from 2010 to 2012 so I basically hand merged the patch into
3.4. This patch was tested with Python 3.4.0a0 on both Mac OS X and Linux. As
suggested by taleina
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This time I ran make patchcheck on the patch and it corrected a single white
space.
I used taleinat's patch as the start for a patch that works with 3.4. Lots of
code was changed from 2010 to 2012 so I basically hand merged the patch into
3.4. This patc
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I used taleinat's patch as the start for a patch that works with 2.7. Lots of
code was changed from 2010 to 2012 so I basically hand merged the patch into
2.7. This patch was tested with Python 2.7.3 on both Mac OS X and Linux. As
suggested by taleina
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Nick,
I agree some documentation is better than none. But somebody could do better
I am not sure how to debug in IDLE. I have taken your file and created a 2.7
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David,
Thanks for your bug report. Indeed os.rename does not exhibit the same
behavior as the documentation describes.
For Python 3.4 here is the fix I came up with:
"Rename the file or directory src to dst. If dst is a directory that is not
empty, OS
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Same patch as before but updated the documentation and help.txt file for IDLE.
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Thanks for the feedback! Over the weekend I will make sure the documentation
and test cases cover all possibilities. I have not worked with test suite but
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Over the weekend I verified the test cases are incomplete for Python 3.4.
Inside of Lib/test/test_os.py is a class FileTests that contains a single
function test_rename which seems to only check to make sure that the reference
count for the first argument is
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While writing test cases I discovered another conflict with the documentation.
The phrase "On Unix, if dst exists and is a file, it will be replaced silently
if the user has permission and src is a file." is not correct. According to
the test cases
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Ned,
I respectfully disagree that this is not a new feature. IDLE could always
copy/cut/paste from the edit menu and it had a right click menu. All this patch
does is add options to right click menu and call the same functions as the edit
menu does. I could
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Attached is a patch for 16 test cases. All 16 test cases have been tested on
Windows 7, Mac OS X, and Linux they seem to function well. Before this patch
there was only a single test case for rename. For each test case I used
"unittest.skipUnless&quo
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Chris,
That is an excellent suggestion. I modified my OSRenameCombinations.py
program and attached. This program prints a table with the src parameters as
columns and the dst as rows. Hopefully it will show up ok in the bug tracker.
For Unix
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Here is a draft suggestion for the documentation change, not all the formatting
is worked out:
.. function:: rename(src, dst, *, src_dir_fd=None, dst_dir_fd=None)
Rename the file or directory *src* to *dst*. If *src* exists as either
a file or directory
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Attached is patch with the final formatting for the documentation updates. I
fixed the :exc:`OSError` problems that I had before and used indents to denote
Unix behavior VS Windows behavior. Please let me know if I can do anything else
to help get this issue
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This is a good patch but it is rather out of date and won't apply. I will
patch the patch and maybe somebody can apply it this time. Expect a new patch
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This patch is an extensive refactoring of help.txt and idle.rst. The first
thing I did was merge issue5066.patch from jesstess into the current idle.rst
file, because the original patch from jesstess was so old it had to be merged
by hand into the 3.4 source
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Version 2 of the patch change include:
-help.txt removed all tabs and replaced with spaces, as suggested by Roger
-help.txt re-inserted the section on running IDLE without a subprocess as
suggested by Roger
-Added a note on line 162 (idle.rst) about how the Python
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-Line 340 (idle.rst) where the Emacs bindings are rendered seemed to work fine
on my computer without the spaces but I think ezio is correct spaces should be
present so I added them
**SHOULD BE**
-Line 340 (idle.rst) where the
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A "ping" on this bug since it has not had any forward movement. Can somebody
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"To begin with, please be patient! There are many more people submitting
patches than there are people capable of reviewing your patch. Getting your
patch reviewed requires a reviewer to have the
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I agree with Meador it should be a specific amount of time. As a beginner at
contributing to Python I thought "substantial amount of time" meant one month
but it depends on interpretation. I think making it very specific makes the
documentation
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Ok I changed the time to one month...now the patch reads:
"To begin with, please be patient! There are many more people submitting
patches than there are people capable of reviewing your patch. Getting your
patch reviewed requires a reviewer to have the
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Zachary,
I like your idea about joining idle.rst with help.txt but I think that
should be covered under a separate bug issue. The way I see it this bug is
about fixing the current documentation. So I suggest you open up a new issue
and get people's ta
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Thanks for your excellent review Your feedback was very helpful for
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