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This is essentially a duplicate of #7391 where it is already agreed that a
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The issue is not the specific warnings Rusi got but how, in general, one can
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One response might be that DeprecationWarnings should be much wordier than they
are -- a paragraph of a few
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http://svn.python.org/view/python/branches/release27-maint/Grammar/Grammar?view=markup
should that Benjamin just removed it from 2.7.
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This is not a security issue, so removal of 2.6 was right the first time.
Changing the one line would be easy, but I know nothing about what is correct
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Added tweak to .__chain_b to avoid creating list of b2j.keys and .items be
deleting from b2j in separate loop after creating sets. Test with timeit
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I do not have much to add, but second the idea of inquiring on python-list or
the gmane mirror, especially about alternatives (other than Notepad, which is
what I started with). Happily, IDLE has nearly always worked fine on my xp
machine, so I have not
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This issue is actually a request to add .svg to the types map and the the
abbreviation .svgz for .svg.gx to the suffix_map.
I believe Scalable Vector Graphics are well on the way to becoming *the*
standard vector graphics format for the web, especially with
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Separate issue: from the mimetypes doc ...
"MimeTypes.types_map
Dictionary mapping filename extensions to MIME types. This is initially a copy
of the global types_map defined in the module."
But on Windows, I get a *tuple*, not a dict, of two
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Patch attached.
The instructions, after editing the url, are
# Before adding new types, make sure they are either registered with IANA,
# at http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types
# or extensions, i.e. using the x- prefix
Since there is no
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I verified the looping behavior of the testcase in both 2.7.1 and, with minor
mods, 3.1.3 and 3.2b1, so this is a valid issue.
The HTMLParcer docs (2.7, 3.2) do not mention the .error method. The default is
def error(self, message):
raise
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I obviously misunderstood the instruction about 'x-' and will remove that.
Should I leave the entry where it is or move as Éric suggested?
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2.6 is closed except for security fixes, which this does not seem to be. If the
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According to the linked doc, Opera has '-noraise' but not '-raise' as a command
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It does have '"raise()"' (with quotes and parens, but not "n
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I agree with addition. Patch look OK to my limited .rst knowledge.
To be more parallel to the other entries, the text might say
"A bool indicating whether ..."
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I verified problem with 3.2b1 on 32-bit winxp machine.
IDLE restarts after pythonw crashes.
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Since 'methods' is converted to a set in the next line, there is no need for
lists. Instead, use | and delete the conversion.
methods = vars(Pack).keys() + vars(Grid).keys() + vars(Place).keys()
methods = set(methods).difference(text_meth
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A request limited only to fixing the current field for attribute may get more
traction than a request for a new field. Can you dig into to code to get any
idea why the difference between attributes versus indexes and parameters?
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FWIW, I find the current behavior for attributes to be surprising, to the point
where at first glance it almost looks like a bug. Which is to say, I would have
expected 'col' to point to the first non-whitespace column after the '.'. If
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3.2,3.1,2.7: r87553, r87554, r87555
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jmfauth notes that
compile('print(999)\r\n', '', 'exec')
works in 2.7 but not 3.1 (and 3.2 not checked) because 3.1 sees '\r' as
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According to Ronald (msg92914) and Ned (msg92923) this particular issue is 2.6
only (and fixed in 2.7 because of patches not backported).
2.6 is in security fix only mode.
So unless someone claims that this is a security issue (and Barry agrees) or
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This is otherwise a duplicate of similar issues.
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webbrowser.open (and two aliases):
1. document return value, which seems to be: True if a browser tab or window is
opened, regardless of whether or not the url is found; False otherwise.
2. document that (on Windows, at least) the default browser only gets
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webbrowser appears to be designed to return True/False if it does/or not open a
browser window (regardless of site response). (I opened #10799 for a doc
addition.) I believe an exception would likely indicate a bug therein. So I
only wrapped the Windows
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For future reference, the 'trunk' branch was frozen with the release of 2.7 in
June 2010. However, this particular text is unchanged since in 2.7.1 and still
in 3.2b2 (except for removal of 'new style'.)
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Requests for information should go to python-list or other support forums. That
said, does the response settle this issue, so that it can be closed, or is
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Since the current behavior matches the current doc,
"class unittest.TextTestRunner(stream=sys.stderr, descriptions=True,
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A basic test runner implementation which prints results on standard error. ..."
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>From reading the Wikipedia article, I might conclude that beta = 1/theta, but
>from reading random.py, beta=theta. I think this much should be clarified, but
>without giving the formula in a hard to read text form. Perhaps the random doc
>
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Since threading is written in Python, one might expect Lock to be written in
Python and its methods to accept keywords. However, threading.py (3.2) has
_acquire_lock = _thread.acquire_lock
Lock = _aquire_lock
so threading.Lock objects are C-coded
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I verified the bug by creating a copy of idlelib/help.txt, making the new help
entry, testing it, deleting the copy, and retesting -- IDLE silently
disappears. (A copy is necessary because IDLE checks that the file exists and
gives a similar message as in
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Bug and fix also apply to missing Idlelib/help.txt.
r87601 News entry for 3.2. Thanks Scott.
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OK, I will add defaults in the texts and condense them a bit at the same time.
Will post patches for review.
"Arguments that can't be given as kwargs are presented with brackets."
I think this should be stated in the introduction to the Lib man
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I think that the warning that things are not always as they seem should be
repeated in the front of the library manual where the pseudo-arg names are
actual used, so the library manual stands on its own. In any case, I believe a
lot of people use the lib ref
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If there is no indication in the lib manual as to which parameter names and
defaults are real and which are fake, then the safe guideline is to never use
keywards for library functions and methods and always pass everything
positionally.
Slightly more
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On xp, changing from -m test to -m test.regrtest removed the extra craziness
during and after the test run that I reported on pydev.
I think making at least a tempory fix to whatever -m test runs should be a
release blocker so only individual tests and not
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You might try running test suite, 'python -m test.regrtest' from Command Window
in python27 directory on both this and other system. (It takes about 20 min, so
minimize and do somet
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My understanding is much like Toshio's: ambiguous (typically, undocumented or
omitted from __all__) non-underscored names should be resolved, with the three
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The possible downside, as with any new feature, is that code using the new
feature will not run on on previous micro (x.y.z) releases. In this case, one
can run the tests using the new feature.
>>> from test import __main__
== CPython 3.2b2 (r32b2:8
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(Ingemar: one can easily test import statements without pyqt, let alone qt ;-)
With 3.2b2 on our Win7, 64 bit machine, files with a Japanese name run but
apparently cannot be imported.
a.py: print('something')
^|.py: print('other')
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If I edit a file with IDLE, save it, and successfully run it (perhaps to test
it), then when I edit a second file that imports the first, I expect the import
to work. It does not always (see #10828).
Import is part of the core definition of the language
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ANSI code page? I have no idea how to find out and many would not even know
what such a thing exists. It is an HP laptop sold in the US.
I think bugs in core syntax should have high priority. I appreciate your work
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If the source will not compile with __INSURE__ defined, then perhaps no one has
ever tried to do that with 3.x. That would suggest that the ifdef could be
removed. In any case, the non-function call should be removed.
Is the other function called anywhere
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I think this needs at least two patches: one to change comments, another to
remove two fields. Can you prepare something?
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0. Does 'Release 0.05' at the top have any useful current meaning?
or could it be deleted?
1. Introduction:
The history paragraph "The re module was added in Python 1.5, and provides
Perl-style regular expression patterns. Earlier versions
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As I understand this, your patch would fix numerous errors in the docs, but has
not been applied. It would be nice to get the fixes into 3.2. What sort of
feedback do you want? Proofreading of text? Recheck of doctest?
Does sphinx suppress doctest comments
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I agree that the .rst should not have two copies and that any windows.chm
specific fixup should be in the tool. Right now, right clicking gives a context
menu with one item: Properties. Clicking that brings up a dialog box with a url
that can be copied. Good
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Since I think I know how to do it, easily, I will try to derive the 2.7 patch.
In Matching Characters, I think
"The following predefined special sequences are available:"
should be expanded to
"The following predefined special sequences
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Given that sys.path includes ".../python32" adding the requisite empty
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>>> from Tools.demo.redemo import main; main()
to work (I tried it with Scripts instead of demo in b2). No
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I applied patch to 3.2, 3.1 in r87904, r87905. Thanks.
I had to re-edit for 2.7: r87909.
I made a separate small patch for my suggested addition to Matching Characters.
Could someone check that it is correct, given that re.rst contains the target
directive
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Doctest runs on .rst files, which are plain text files, finds and reports
errors, and reports no errors when the errors are fixed. See #10875 where is
was very helpful. So your last comment puzzles me.
In any case, your patch is too big to digest at once. I
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There are two reasons I forward ported the changes.
1. Without running doctest on doc examples, they sometimes have errors either
originally, after patches to the doc, or after patches to Python. On other
issues, I found 4 errors in the json doc (probably
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This can be reopened if the problem ever appears in a current issue.
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http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/ says
Name: Win9x, WinME, NT4
Unsupported in: Python 2.6 (warning in 2.5 installer)
Code removed in: Python 2.6
Only xp+ now. email sent to webmaster@...
Even if the best fix only applies to win7
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I took a look at an example of each type.
Sign-compare, Parser/node.c, 94
if (required_capacity > PY_SIZE_MAX / sizeof(node))
I presume PY_SIZE_MAX and sizeof(node) are both unsigned.
So is, conceptually, required_capacity, but it is defined as an
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What happens if you run your program without IDLE?
(either with right-click and run or run from Command Prompt window?)
I would not be surprised if your problems go away. IDLE runs a saved file in a
separate pythonw process. Printing (or writing) to stdout
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I see there is already something similar for true division.
I find
+q_max, shift_max = 1 << sig_bits, sys.float_info.max_exp - sig_bits
easier to read as two lines
+q_max = 1 << sig_bits
+shift_max = sys.float_info.max_exp - sig_bits
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FWIW, I downloaded, edited for 3.2, and ran. 45 minutes later, with counter in
box near 16000, and output sequence looking about the same as initially, I
killed with Task Manager (also on winxp). You might try same on your system.
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In general, the website is separate from Python code and documentation and
website issues should be sent to webmas...@python.org, not here, as code/doc
committers cannot change web pages.
However, this particular page (dev/faq) has being pulled into the (hg
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Failing when passed a bytesIO object seems reasonable.
I question the bit about newlines though. The doc does not specify that
newlines='' is needed on output. While is says it is needed for input, why? Why
is a mix of '\n', '\r
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The docs do not say that the result should be exactly, byte-for-byte, the same.
base64 module refers to RFC 3548. Both our doc and the RFC describe variations.
The base64 codec does '
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I ran the 2.7 file (on 2.7) and after several minutes, threadA stopped
printing, but no error message.
Antoine, could improvement from 2.7 to 3.2 have anything to new with the new
implementation of the Global Interpreter Lock?
Scott, if you can do your
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