[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Change by Steve Dower : -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker ___ ___ P

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread miss-islington
miss-islington added the comment: New changeset 95cc37f6b8e895a5042e2a10e5d9026429e06342 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.9': bpo-41412 and bpo-40948: Windows installer updates (GH-21656) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/95cc37f6b8e895a5042e2a10e5d9026429e06342 -- _

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: New changeset 37a06cbe5c17c2aa6ad938339fd42531a8a0bea0 by Steve Dower in branch 'master': bpo-41412 and bpo-40948: Windows installer updates (GH-21656) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/37a06cbe5c17c2aa6ad938339fd42531a8a0bea0 -- __

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread miss-islington
Change by miss-islington : -- nosy: +miss-islington nosy_count: 7.0 -> 8.0 pull_requests: +20808 pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/21661 ___ Python tracker _

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: I changed the middle paragraph to this: See what's new in this release, or find more info about using Python

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Mats Wichmann
Mats Wichmann added the comment: I still think there ought to be some pointer to https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html in there. -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Change by Steve Dower : -- keywords: +patch pull_requests: +20801 stage: needs patch -> patch review pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/21656 ___ Python tracker _

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Added a screenshot, after tweaking the spacing just a little. -- Added file: https://bugs.python.org/file49343/postinstall.png ___ Python tracker __

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

2020-07-28 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Assuming it fits, I'm going to update the 3.9+ post-install message to this (assume the HTML renders normally). Any comments? New to Python? Start with the online tutorial and [issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner
Mats Wichmann added the comment: > py.exe is preferred *if* one starts python from a command line. I'm not a habitual Windows user (a certain project is making me spend way more time there than usual), but if I start typing python to a Windows search, after the first two letters the launcher

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Mats, thank you for chiming in. py.exe is preferred *if* one starts python from a command line. Some beginners have never seen one or know what it is. This is most likely to be true of people who don't know 'installer' from 'launcher'. The installer is u

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

Mats Wichmann added the comment: "on python-list and probably elsewhere"... I can confirm these questions get mailed to webmas...@python.org :) A couple of comments since I see these fairly frequently: The "using" doc page may have too much information for beginner tastes, but at least it

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Simple is fine. How about If you want to run Python, press Start and find 'Python 3.x' under 'P', or enter 'python' in the "Search for anything" box on the taskbar. If you don't have the time right now, where should this go? -- ___

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

Steve Dower added the comment: The current "using" doc page is way too in-depth, but I'm actually okay with the idea of having a "Did you mean to launch Python? Press 'Start' and type 'Python' to find it" message on the Modify page of the installer. Perhaps the people hitting this problem wo

[issue40948] Better identify Windows installer as installer only, not runner

New submission from Terry J. Reedy : Some beginners on Windows think that python-3.8.3-amd64.exe, for instance, is for running python-3.8.3, leading to repeated and now tiresome questions on python-list and probably elsewhere. The latest example is "repair modify uninstall" with the core com