[issue17379] Zen amendment

2013-03-09 Thread Jesús Cea Avión
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2013-03-07 Thread Brett Cannon
Brett Cannon added the comment: Tim has spoken, so closing the bug as rejected. -- resolution: -> rejected status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker ___

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2013-03-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: Actually, INTERCAL mandates a certain amount of politeness (not too little, but not too much either): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTERCAL -- ___ Python tracker _

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2013-03-07 Thread Tim Peters
Tim Peters added the comment: As I just clarified on the members list, the "Zen" is about the design of Python-the-language. It's hard to imagine that a programming language _could_ be barbaric or rude, Perl notwithstanding ;-) -- ___ Python tracke

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2013-03-07 Thread Brett Cannon
Brett Cannon added the comment: How about "civility beats rudeness". That's clearly delineates it's about your discourse with others and eliminates any superiority issues people were feeling with the term "barbaric". Obviously Tim would still need to sign off on this as well. -- nosy:

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2013-03-07 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: Yeah, but in this case I think Antoine is right. This kind of "argument" is the kind of argument that is used to shut down discussion, in form whether or not in substance. Which is too bad, because it is nicely clever. -- nosy: +r.david.murray

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2013-03-07 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment: On Mar 07, 2013, at 03:58 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >Disagreed. This is the kind of sentence that cannot be correctly >understood without the (missing) original context. Plus, we fear change. ;) -- ___ Python track

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2013-03-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: Disagreed. This is the kind of sentence that cannot be correctly understood without the (missing) original context. It is also, IMHO, a rather poor wording. The categories of "civilized" and "barbarian", as any kind of binary thinking (us vs. them) are routinely

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2013-03-07 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
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2013-03-07 Thread Christian Heimes
New submission from Christian Heimes: Tim came up with a fitting amendment to the Zen of Python. It pretty much sums up our future Code of Conduct in one sentence. But see for yourself! ;) -- files: zen_amendment.patch keywords: patch messages: 183671 nosy: christian.heimes, tim_one pr