[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-24 Thread Guido van Rossum
Guido van Rossum added the comment: I have no desire or time to continue this discussion. The ASCII assumption will be ingrained as deeply or deeper in 3.0 than in 2.x, just like 8-bit bytes and 2's complement. The computer industry has chosen, and there just isn't any incentive to invent abstr

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-24 Thread Lauri Alanko
Lauri Alanko added the comment: The port is certainly not yet "complete" in any sense. I have only fixed the most obvious places where explicit conversion between ASCII/Unicode values and platform-specific characters is required. There are a number of remaining issues, some of which cannot be fix

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-23 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Martin v. Löwis added the comment: Jean-Yves, please understand that no amount of discussion can likely change Guido's or my view on this patch. We both fully understand the relevance of OS/390, and *still* reject it, for the reasons discussed. Besides, integration into 2.5.1 is not possible, as

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-23 Thread Jean-Yves MENGANT
Jean-Yves MENGANT added the comment: Let me provide my contribution to this discussion around this ZOS port topic : I initially made the Python 2.2 and 2.4 for ZOS platform and ask the python community to link to my pages as a support to ZOS at that time Lauri get in touch with me couple of wee

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Martin v. Löwis added the comment: I'm marking the patch as rejected, but leave it open. It seems clear that it cannot be incorporated into Python because of the maintenance issues (the only reasonable way to incorporate it would be if a long-time Python contributor steps forward and offers to ma

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-22 Thread Lauri Alanko
Lauri Alanko added the comment: Further comments on the port can be at: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2007-October/074991.html __ Tracker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __ __

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
Guido van Rossum added the comment: FYI, I checked the moderation queue for python-dev and didn't find your message. You might want to resend. __ Tracker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __ ___

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
Guido van Rossum added the comment: > How do you measure importance? Z/OS is not important to many > people in the world, but to those to whom it is important, it is > _very_ important, in a very tangible way. It was certainly > important enough for someone to port Python to it. :) But is it imp

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-19 Thread Lauri Alanko
Lauri Alanko added the comment: How do you measure importance? Z/OS is not important to many people in the world, but to those to whom it is important, it is _very_ important, in a very tangible way. It was certainly important enough for someone to port Python to it. :) _

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-19 Thread Lauri Alanko
Lauri Alanko added the comment: The character set of EBCDIC is a superset of the character set of ASCII. In fact CP1047, the variant used on z/OS, has the same character set as Latin-1. Only the encoding is completely different. As a non-ASCII platform, z/OS is certainly challenging for people u

[issue1298] Support for z/OS and EBCDIC.

2007-10-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
Guido van Rossum added the comment: How important is z/OS? I'm very skeptical of the viability of any OS that uses an encoding that is not a superset of ASCII. -- nosy: +gvanrossum __ Tracker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___