[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: This issue still seems to be about bad extension modules crashing CPython and we cannot fix that. -- resolution: -> wont fix stage: -> committed/rejected status: pending -> closed ___ Python tracker

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

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[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

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[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: (Note: the word is 'separate', 2 e's and 2 a's, not 'seperate') (Note: We already know that using unbound unquoted names does not work. Please do not waste our time telling us the obvious.) (Note: I am removing IDLE because this does not seem to be an IDLE issu

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

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[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: Just delete the previous message... please. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: This is an acedmic note. This is not really the place and perhaps better moved to a PEP or a forum. In my search to discover more about Python ( and its interactive interpreter and its help() function? statement? on my own) I noticed it was kind of a wart in Py

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: What about this application modal popup window appearing behind the DOS window? (See attached) That popup window may only need to have a system style flag to push it to the top of the window z-order stack. What causes that popup to appear? Is it Python source cod

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: mhammond added a recent note at: python.exe help() modules crashes - ID: 3150027 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3150027&group_id=78018&atid=551954 Scroll down below the detail and click the "Comments" link. View the note from mhammond's on 4/2

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: It was suggested that a corrupt package would be where I'm experiencing the lockup or crash of python.exe when issuing help() and then "modules". And that if I or someone could verify that a corrupt package has this effect by creating a corrupt package. I have not f

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

R. David Murray added the comment: Dev: I have no idea how what you just posted relates to the subject of this issue. Could you clarify please? -- ___ Python tracker ___ _

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: Oh I am running on an Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz/3.2Ghz. Windows XP Pro SP3 32 bit So I presume I should not have used the AMD 64 versions of course. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20214/ -- ___

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: from GetMainFrame import GetWindowText Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ImportError: No module named GetMainFrame Also, I installed from the MS-Windows installer file: pywin32-214.win32-py2.7.exe not from "pywin32-214.zip" which I think i

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: import win32ui from win32ui import GetMainFrame dir(win32ui.GetMainFrame) ['__call__', '__class__', '__cmp__', '__delattr__', '__doc__', '__eq__', '__format__', '__ge__', '__getattribute__', '__gt__', '__hash__', '__init__', '__le__', '__lt__', '__module__', '__n

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Éric, go ahead and consolidate to one issue if you can get to it. Do the other issues shows problems with 3.1 or 3.2 also? I wonder because I have never seen the box in the posted .png and wonder if that is a new 'feature' with 2.7 and possibly 3.2 that was no

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: Another thing I've noticed that makes the issue more complicated (or perhaps less complicated depending on your view). When running the python.exe at the DOS prompt (in a window on WinXP), then issuing the help() then modules commands, python.exe seems to hang at

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Éric Araujo added the comment: There are half a dozen duplicate bugs of this one, with various suggestions on each. They should be summed up and linked. I should be able to do it this week-end if no-one does it first. -- nosy: +eric.araujo ___ Py

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: The unnamed quasi-html file loaded with msg118397 was a unless, essentially unreadable duplicate of that message, hence removed. -- nosy: +terry.reedy ___ Python tracker

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[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM, R. David Murray > wrote: > R. David Murray added the comment: > Can you reproduce the problem using a pure Python 'corrupt' module? > -- > When in python.exe, and you type help() then modules, aren't you really asking fo

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

R. David Murray added the comment: What I am saying is that if an extension module (one that provides non-python code in a load module) is corrupt, then it can totally screw up Python's internal bookkeeping, and there is nothing Python can do to protect itself against that. If the "corrupt"

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

Dev Player added the comment: I believe that a 3rd party package is corrupt. Whether it is or not I don't know. However whether or not a package is corrupt or not is not what I am reporting as a bug. I am reporting that python.exe crashes when I do help() modules. In GUI wrappers around pyt

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

R. David Murray added the comment: There isn't much that Python can do if there is a sufficiently broken C-based module in sys.path. All you report about the problematic module is that it is 'bad' or 'corrupt'. Can you give more information about what makes it bad? -- nosy: +r.david

[issue10060] python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found

New submission from Dev Player : 2010-10-10 python.exe crashes or hangs on help() modules when bad modules found ### SUMMARY The python.exe command line interpreter crashes or hangs when typing first >>>help() then >modules an