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There's already a bug / pending patch for this behavior here:
http://bugs.python.org/issue8713
No need to take it to -ideas.
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On Wednesday, December 21, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Charles-François Natali wrote:
While I would tend to agree with you in theory - I don't think we should make
it the default - at least not without a LOT of lead time. There's a surprising
amount of code
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Antoine is correct, as he usually is. This is more of a documentation issue
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Charles and Antoine's votes match my own, therefore closing the bug wont fix
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No one is currently working on a patch AFAIK
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> I can't seem to reproduce this under 3.3. Should it be closed?
I don't think so; it's still applicable to 2.x, and a fix shoul
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Charles; you have +commit, it seems. I would welcome the patch and test (just
as long as the aforementioned reliance on /etc/fstab was removed).
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Yes, Charles - the test is not only welcome, but needed - it just can't rely on
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I agree derek, I think that would be a fine addition, however we lack a patch
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Do things like this in the REPL are known not to work. Things are not protected
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Dupe of issue10517
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> Note: I noticed that there are some thread-unsafe operations (the cache that
> can be modified from different threads, and thread states are modified also
> from different threads). While this isn't an issue with the current cPython
> implem
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Agreed; I'm not personally the windows expert that should handle that
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Nothing jumps out at me at initial review; I've asked other
contributors/interested parties to take a look too. Thanks a ton Antoine for
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> Possible plan for POSIX, where a connection uses a pipe() or socketpair():
> exploit the fact that an endpoint becomes ready for reading (indicati
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> Speaking of which, I wonder why we have both multiprocessing.Pool and
> concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutor. They seem to fill the exact same
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Ronald - if you're OK w/ patch 2, please commit!
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I concur with RDM. We need complex data structures, and switching to JSON
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you want to use JSON as a transport, I would do custom subcla
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Yeah, despite what the RFC says, the most common usage is in web clients, and
stuffing it in the email module won't be obvious to 95% of the population I
think, unless that's where the implementation lives, but we can add a doc stub
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I'm fine with that tweak antoine
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> With the example script attached I see the exception every time. On Ubuntu
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> Since the offending line in multiprocesing
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Adding, or moving, to SYSV semaphores is very low on the list of things to do.
If someone were to provide a patch, I'm sure we could consider it.
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We have to add the BSD header and maintain the copyright clause on all of the
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Can you please expand on "deeply different"?
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Fine w/ committing this Ask as-is ask. You are correct in the original intent
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Closing per Sridhar
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> Well, I'm not asking anyone to rewrite the entire multiprocessing test suite;
> and, besides, I've provided a patch myself to improve it in that respect ;)
> (in issue10173)
I just
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Sridhar can you confirm if this is still a problem on 3.2?
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I doubt I, or Ask will have the time to rewrite the entire multiprocessing test
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I can not, for the life of me, remember why ThreadPool is there, except as a
fallback. It's also not part of the documented interface as well. Additionally,
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hume; filing this again doesn't help. I closed issue 9851 as a duplicate of
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Duplicate; 9897
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> Is there any timeline on when this will be fixed? It's currently blocking
> work on a python-related package for Debian.
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I'l
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Calling it stupid doesn't incentivize me to help you, or fix it.
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> are there really any test/doc changes needed for this?
Yes. At bare minimum we need unit tests for the new possible usage of
the API; I'd like docs and an example which show the new usage as
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> If we keep that behavior, the real problem here is that the
> result handler hangs if the process that reserved a job is gone, which is
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> by #9205. Should we mark it as a duplicate?
I would tend to agree with your asses
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Thanks Freek - we're actually discussing some stuff like this in issue9205 as
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Is this intermittent, or consistently failing? Updating it with more buildbot
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Florent - Are you running the script from Freek on the buildbots, or are you
just updating this bugs with other run failures? I'm having a really hard time
separating things.
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I don't know that it's unreasonable to send that much data, but it would
certainly be slow, and I would not recommend it. Therefore, this is still on
the list for when I have time
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Mark - did you observe the behavior in the Op? He's not stating the the code
snippet runs fine, but that the second run at the same time on windows to cause
a conflict. We need to show that either running it twice, at the same time
against the same s
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The relative imports have been more of a pain then they've helped. I'm fine
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The backport of multiprocessing is currently stale; and there are a few bugs in
the tracker assigned to christian or myself in regards to it. If it's not too
much trouble, I'd leave this one alone until the exact future of the backport
can b
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@ray - you probably don't have the "dcon" binary on your path. bug.py calls a
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@Mark Yeah - I'm the current multiprocessing maintainer. If I fix it, I'll just
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(sorry, I thought I had replied to your comment when I hadn't!) I think we can
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You two are bigger users of this then I currently am (the curse/blessing of
switching jobs), which is why I've let you hash it out.
Let me point out: my goal is to deal with errors in a way which does not cause
a total crash, a lockup, or hanging proc
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Passing the references seems to be a losing game; for _handle_workers - we
only need 1 function (debug) - for others (say _join_exited_workers), we need
references to reversed/range/len.
A possible alternative is to make those threads non-daemon threads; but
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Greg - I asked Ask to take a look - his celery package is a huge consumer of
multiprocessing, and so I tend to run things past him as well.
That said - to both of you - the fundamental problem the shutdown patch is
trying to scratch is located in issue 9207
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Thank you for doing that footwork Greg, it means a lot to me. I'm leaning
towards the patch to swallow the errors - I just wanted to ponder it just a
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A+ for creativity; I wouldn't have thought of that ;)
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Ugh. I'm going to have to think about the cleanest way of handling this case of
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thanks greg; I'm going to take a look and think about this. I'd like to resolve
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Talking with Brett; the fix should be as simple as keeping a reference to the
debug function which we have in the imports. During interpreter shutdown, the
sys.modules is iterated and each module replaced with None. Since the
_handle_workers thread persists
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Greg - yeah. it's the same problem.
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Egad No! I gotcha. I'll find out what the deal with the contrib. agreement is.
Pretty sure we had to wait on it when we brought it in.
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Hi Stefan - I'm familiar with the license/etc of the original module. This bug
isn't urgent; I shot a quick email to the PSF's secretary Pat to confirm we
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I'm not sure if there would still be the possibility; the thing which worries
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Greg, can you comment out line 272 in Lib/multiprocessing/pool.py and tell me
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Correction; it can and does happen on OS/X. So, this is not a platform specific
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It does not seem to appear on OS/X 10.6.4 - so the only question is does this
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I can confirm with a clean ubuntu 64 install, with a clean checkout of
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Yes; the copyright has to stay; but the license data can leave afaik.
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Alright, I'm fighting ubuntu 64 bit in my vmware install right now, I'll see if
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Wait - so, you are pulling svn trunk, compiling and running your test with the
built python executable? I'm not following the "multiprocessing-from-trunk"
distinction unless you're picking the module out of the tree / compiling it and
then
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Oh, you mean the backport from google code?
The person who stepped up to maintain that has not refreshed that in some time.
I need to decide what to do with it long term. I'm pretty sure it's badly ou
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Thanks greg; so this affects 2.6 as well (not using the backport at all)
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Greg - this is actually a different exception then the original bug report;
could you please file a new issue with the information you've provided? I'm
going to need to find a 64bit ubuntu box as I don't hav
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Greg - what platform?
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Pushed it in r82489 - worked for me on Linux and OS/X. Please let me know if
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the patch looks good to me - unless someone beats me to it, I'm going to commit
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No - I don't know of anything which would trigger this in 3.1 off the top of my
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I pretty much agree with (b) an argument - your gut instinct is correct -
there's a long standing thread in python-dev which pretty much solidified my
thinking about whether or not we need this (we do).
Any patch has to be backwards compatible by the wa
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multiprocessing.Queue.Put() acts the same as Queue.put() - if the queue is
full, the put call "hangs" until the queue is no longer full. The process will
not exit, as the Queue is full, and it's waiting in put.
This works as designed, unl
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Committed to trunk in r77794
Merged to Py3k in r77795
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Attached is the ported patch for Python 2.7/trunk. Please review it to make
sure I didn't completely flub anything. I noticed you had forgotten the
maxtasksperchild argument in the unit test, so I added that. I also expanded
the docs a little but, paraphr
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I'm fine with the functionality; I'm going to test it out and look at
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I've backed it out on trunk and py3k. I've reopened the original bug to
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I've commented out the test (therefore, reopening this) the test
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