On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Mark Ramm wrote:
> It would go something like this:
>
> Pyramid dispatch is based on a two phase system.
>
> The first phase is called Resource Location, and in it we use the URL
> (Universal Resource Locator) to find a resource. This is done by
> taking items fro
+1 'resource' is awesome. I retract all my previous objections. Thanks
wordsmiths Mark and Chris.
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By the way, I earlier suggested reorganizing the manual to put the URL
Dispatch chapter first and then the Traversal and Hybrid chapters.
Putting Traversal first is a significant stumbling block for those who
aren't used to it. The outline I suggested is here:
http://groups.google.com/group/pylons
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
> Am 17.12.2010 15:42 schrieb Graham Higgins:
>>
>> For example, "model graph" (used in the Pyramid docs) suffers from
>> the same difficulty as does "little baby". It unnecessarily
>> complicates the narrative with a tautological concep
As a relative newcomer to Python web development (although I'm an
experienced developer in other respects) I don't find the word 'model'
confusing so long as it is qualified with the word 'traversal' as in
'traversal model'. Almost any non-trival application uses the word model
contextually, with
Am 17.12.2010 15:42 schrieb Graham Higgins:
For example, "model graph" (used in the Pyramid docs) suffers from
the same difficulty as does "little baby". It unnecessarily
complicates the narrative with a tautological conceptual entity.
This btw is another reason why I don't like the term "model
On 17/12/2010 12:37, Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:57:42PM -0500, Mark Ramm wrote:
The main reason behind me asking Chris about this is that I can
imagine writing a simple explanation of the "traversal" model which
makes sense to a variety of TG, Zope, and even Django users.
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On 17 Dec 2010, at 12:05, Graham Higgins wrote:
As did Tim Berners-Lee ...
Sorry about the noise. Periodically, Googlegroups plays silly beggars
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/me tries yet again (good grief Google, get a grip)
On 17 Dec 2010, at 04:57, Mark Ramm wrote:
I think resource is a good term for items in the graph
As did Tim Berners-Lee when he coined the referents "URI" and "URL".
Note that a URI is still t
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On 17 Dec 2010, at 04:57, Mark Ramm wrote:
I think resource is a good term for items in the graph
As did Tim Berners-Lee when he coined the referents "URI" and "URL".
Note that a URI is still termed a "resource" even if it does not have
a corr
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On 17 Dec 2010, at 04:57, Mark Ramm wrote:
I think resource is a good term for items in the graph
As did Tim Berners-Lee when he coined the referents "URI" and "URL".
Note that a URI is still termed a "resource" even if it does not have
a corre
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(tries again...)
On 17 Dec 2010, at 04:57, Mark Ramm wrote:
I think resource is a good term for items in the graph
As did Tim Berners-Lee when he coined the referents "URI" and "URL".
Note that a URI is still termed a "resource" even if it does
> The ones I don't like because they're meaningless:
>
> - "atom"
>
> - "entity"
>
> - "node"
>
> The meaningless ones above aren't disqualified because they're
> meaningless, though. I would just rather have something with some sort
> of meaning.
I don't think "node" is as meaningless as the oth
On Dec 17, 6:16 am, blaflamme wrote:
> +1 for your wording Mark
additional +1
I recently experienced the pain of having to explain traversal and why
it was so cool and necessary for the app we are building. It was very
much like showing a dog a card trick.
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Me too. Of course, when something makes sense to me (e.g. XSLT) it is
usual a sign of impending doom.
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On 12/17/10 9:05 AM, Chris Rossi wrote:
Sold. +1
Chris
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Mark Rammwrote:
So, I will confess to being the one who asked for this change, and
while
Sold. +1
Chris
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Mark Ramm wrote:
> So, I will confess to being the one who asked for this change, and
> while I'm definitely open to other options, I think resource is a good
> term for items in the graph. The graph itself I'm not sure what to
> call, but I thi
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Andrey Popp <8may...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Mark Ramm
> wrote:
>> I think resource is a good term for items in the graph.
>
> Why you think resources are need to be bound to locations in graph? I
> think it's better to thin
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:57:42PM -0500, Mark Ramm wrote:
> The main reason behind me asking Chris about this is that I can
> imagine writing a simple explanation of the "traversal" model which
> makes sense to a variety of TG, Zope, and even Django users.
>
> It would go something like this:
>
+1 for your wording Mark
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On Dec 17, 5:57 pm, Mark Ramm wrote:
> The main reason behind me asking Chris about this is that I can
> imagine writing a simple explanation of the "traversal" model which
> makes sense to a variety of TG, Zope, and even Django users.
>
> It would go something like this:
>
> Pyramid dispatch is b
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Mark Ramm wrote:
> I think resource is a good term for items in the graph.
Why you think resources are need to be bound to locations in graph? I
think it's better to think that graph consist of locations and each
location has associated resource. For examp
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