Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 00:30 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 21:24 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: >> > By the way, with the extensive reorganization of application templates >> > proposed including restructuring the SQLAlchemy

Re: URL dispatch vs traversal

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Mike Orr wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:35 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: >>> I wonder if it would be clearer to to put the URL Dispatch chapter >>> before Context Finding and Traversal in the manual. >> >> I s

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 00:30 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 21:24 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > > By the way, with the extensive reorganization of application templates > > proposed including restructuring the SQLAlchemy support, it puts me > > and Eric pretty much on hold for writ

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 21:24 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > By the way, with the extensive reorganization of application templates > proposed including restructuring the SQLAlchemy support, it puts me > and Eric pretty much on hold for writing tutorials and demos, which I > was planning to work on over th

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
By the way, with the extensive reorganization of application templates proposed including restructuring the SQLAlchemy support, it puts me and Eric pretty much on hold for writing tutorials and demos, which I was planning to work on over the next five days. (Because I'm snowed in in Seattle plus th

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 20:12 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 15:29 -0800, Ben Bangert wrote: > >> Since both Mako and Chameleon are configured out of box, no additional > >> config/options are necessary to support it. There

Re: URL dispatch vs traversal

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:35 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: >> I wonder if it would be clearer to to put the URL Dispatch chapter >> before Context Finding and Traversal in the manual. URL Dispatch seems >> to be simpler, and it doesn't require lear

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 15:29 -0800, Ben Bangert wrote: >> Since both Mako and Chameleon are configured out of box, no additional >> config/options are necessary to support it. There is nothing in the >> template that configures traversal, or

Re: URL dispatch vs traversal

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 19:35 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > I wonder if it would be clearer to to put the URL Dispatch chapter > before Context Finding and Traversal in the manual. URL Dispatch seems > to be simpler, and it doesn't require learning about the root object, > context object, and context find

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 15:29 -0800, Ben Bangert wrote: > There's been a lot of debate about the 'best set' of pyramid project > templates for awhile, and after going over a few options with Chris > McDonough, reading the messages here from Graham Higgins and Mike Orr, > I think I might have a decent

URL dispatch vs traversal

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
I wonder if it would be clearer to to put the URL Dispatch chapter before Context Finding and Traversal in the manual. URL Dispatch seems to be simpler, and it doesn't require learning about the root object, context object, and context finding only to learn you won't be using them. It seems like UR

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Ben Bangert
On Nov 23, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Mike Orr wrote: > It sounds good in general. Will it still have a default index view > with a welcome page? I think that's a good minimum to get people > started. It saves user frustration and questions on the list, "How do > I structure my views and make the first rou

Re: Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Ben Bangert wrote: > There's been a lot of debate about the 'best set' of pyramid project > templates for awhile, and after going over a few options with Chris > McDonough, reading the messages here from Graham Higgins and Mike Orr, I > think I might have a dece

Pyramid project templates

2010-11-23 Thread Ben Bangert
There's been a lot of debate about the 'best set' of pyramid project templates for awhile, and after going over a few options with Chris McDonough, reading the messages here from Graham Higgins and Mike Orr, I think I might have a decent solution. One of the things thats come up is what exactly