Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-21 Thread Jakov Sosic
On 10/16/2012 04:34 PM, jcbollinger wrote: Here's one solution: keep parametrized classes themselves, but deprecate and eventually remove the parametrized-class declaration syntax. That would leave class parameters as formalized declarations of external data used by classes, while removing the p

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread Ellison Marks
No worries. I'm enjoying the discussion. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:01:47 AM UTC-7, jcbollinger wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:32:28 PM UTC-5, Ellison Marks wrote: >> >> I don't intend to use parametrized declarations(Right now I'm simply >> using hiera_include in the default no

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread jcbollinger
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:16:43 AM UTC-5, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > > It would be great if you can set your email client to send plain text > emails as per list guidelines. > If I were using an e-mail client then I would be happy to do so, but I'm posting via Google's web interface. John --

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread jcbollinger
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:23:14 AM UTC-5, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > > its a > shame we even have to come up with a style for working around problems > in something as key as class paramaterization. > I think it's a shame that prevailing opinion holds class parametrization to be a key featu

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "jcbollinger" > To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:11:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera >> But parameters expose that info to more than humans -- for example, >

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread jcbollinger
On Monday, October 15, 2012 6:59:45 PM UTC-5, Nick Fagerlund wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:45:12 PM UTC-7, jcbollinger wrote: >> >> >> Indeed, I have taken a second look, and a third, and maybe more. I love >> the hiera integration with parametrized classes. It was a fabulous id

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread jcbollinger
On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:32:28 PM UTC-5, Ellison Marks wrote: > > I don't intend to use parametrized declarations(Right now I'm simply using > hiera_include in the default node for everything and loving it). I do > however, very much like the convenience of the new syntax. In addition, my

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-16 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "jcbollinger" > To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:45:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera > > > > Indeed, I personally look at it quite the other way

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-15 Thread Nick Fagerlund
On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:45:12 PM UTC-7, jcbollinger wrote: > > > Indeed, I have taken a second look, and a third, and maybe more. I love > the hiera integration with parametrized classes. It was a fabulous idea, > as it makes it reasonable and safe to use existing parametrized classes

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-15 Thread Ellison Marks
On Monday, October 15, 2012 7:35:30 AM UTC-7, jcbollinger wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, Ellison Marks wrote: >> >> Not to let this thread go to waste... >> >> Since I'm now trying to move away from the hiera functions themselves to >> the parameter style > > > > Why

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-15 Thread jcbollinger
On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:49:38 AM UTC-5, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "jcbollinger" > > To: puppet...@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:35:30 PM > > Subject: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-15 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "jcbollinger" > To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:35:30 PM > Subject: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera > > > > On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, Ellison Marks wro

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-15 Thread jcbollinger
On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10:38 PM UTC-5, Ellison Marks wrote: > > Not to let this thread go to waste... > > Since I'm now trying to move away from the hiera functions themselves to > the parameter style Why? The ability to achieve separation of data from code while avoiding parametriz

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-12 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "Ellison Marks" > To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:10:38 PM > Subject: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera > > Not to let this thread go to waste... > > Since I'm now tryin

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-12 Thread Ellison Marks
Not to let this thread go to waste... Since I'm now trying to move away from the hiera functions themselves to the parameter style, is there a way I can specify that the lookup should be additive, hiera_hash or hiera_array style? If not, is that a planned feature? -- You received this message

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-08 Thread Nick Fagerlund
Ah, thanks. I'll look into that. On Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:07:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan Goethals wrote: > > Sorry to burst you bubble > The puppet backend has been 'broken' (intentionally?) > > - https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/16321 > - > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?ui=2&shva=1#se

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-07 Thread Stefan Goethals
Sorry to burst you bubble The puppet backend has been 'broken' (intentionally?) - https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/16321 - https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?ui=2&shva=1#search/label%3Apuppet-users+pienaar/13a168982ad38854 Lots needs fixing... Zipkid (Stefan) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-05 Thread Ellison Marks
Thanks for the reply. I'll probably start migrating things to the new "parameter" based lookup and a disk based hierarchy anyway, but it's good to know that my setup probably won't break immediately upon upgrading. ^_^ On Friday, October 5, 2012 12:44:41 PM UTC-7, Nick Fagerlund wrote: > > > > O

[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 3.0.0 and Hiera

2012-10-05 Thread Nick Fagerlund
On Friday, October 5, 2012 10:47:58 AM UTC-7, Ellison Marks wrote: > > I've been using Hiera and Hiera-Puppet with Puppet 2.7 for a while now, > and I've been quite enjoying it. I just noticed the available update for > Puppet and saw that Hiera was now part of core Puppet. However, I've been